Topic: Lazar Markovic

[Solomon Grundy]

Can't believe how anybody is thinking about keeping him There's a reason he's at Hull, he's mediocre. We need far better.

Perhaps he is just a mediocre player. Perhaps it's just a confidence issue and there is a really good player in there. He's only 22. Perhaps if he continues to play well and grow in confidence at Hull his career at Liverpool might not be over just yet. We'll see.

[Funky_Gibbons]

Could have done with his pace with Mane out. Would have allowed us to keep the same system at least.

Probably not going to turn out to be good enough for us, but I really wanted him to be cos I think he's gorgeous

Not sure he's intelligent enough to use his pace against packed defences though. He's looking good for Hull because he has acres of space to run into, especially against a team like Arsenal, but in the games he played for us he was poor without that space.

His best games were as a wing back when you have a lot more space ahead of you. When you look at Mane's output from out wide I don't think Markovic would have been a suitable replacement.

[redprodigal]

That's a terrible reason, so if he returned from his loan spell in Portugal and was kept at the mighty reds, all of a sudden he's a world beater?

He's gone on loan there to get some premier league experience and he seems to be in the managers plans. I think he could still have a role to play for us, needs to polish up his final ball.

Role to play for us my arse. Putting up up with mediocrity is the reason why we're in the situation we are in. We need to upgrade the starting XI. No way Klopp will be looking at players of his calibre to do that. Hull City is his level.

[Zlen]

Can't believe how anybody is thinking about keeping him There's a reason he's at Hull, he's mediocre. We need far better.

I'm thinking about him playing himself into contention. How do you conclude this can be anything but good?

[redprodigal]

I'm thinking about him playing himself into contention. How do you conclude this can be anything but good?

I meant that he doesn't possess the talent or the attitude to play himself into contention for the team we are looking to build though.

[Zlen]

I meant that he doesn't possess the talent or the attitude to play himself into contention for the team we are looking to build though.

We'll see, won't we.

[Klippity Klopp]

I feel a large part of the issue with Markovic is that he has been played out of position, ever since we bought him.

He made his name playing central.  That's why we bought him as he was looking the part playing that role.

How many times has he been played central since then?  Very few, if at all.  We've seen him always played wide and I don't think he looks comfortable in that position.

He might not be good enough.  But it would be nice to see him in his best position and then we can judge him properly.

[Chalky Boots]

Yesterday was the best he's looked since his Benfica days. I think there's a big confidence and motivational issue that, if it can be addressed (which looks it might just be happening), then he can become a very effective player at a high level, maybe not for us but who knows.

I suppose if you were him there's now more of a carrot to playing in the same league as the parent club, maybe it ads sense of worth to his position going forward; whereas before maybe he felt we were just looking to window dress him for foreign clubs, now at least we've given him the chance to adjust to the league he was signed to play in showcase his talents.


Look, I hope he keeps it up because if not saving us money it'll get him a move/opportunity to play at a high level than he was looking like playing at prior to January.

[Cpt_Reina]

We'll see, won't we.

Haven't we already?

He won't be here next season.

[unusg]

Has the mentality of a Stewart Downing for me. Comfortable with space in front  for him to run with an easy decision to make on crossing and without the pressure of playing for a big club where expectations are always high.

He may become a decent player but wont mature until later in his career.

His ship has sailed.

[clinical]

I think Markovic is one of the reasons we don't go and bid £20m+ for a Pulisic and Mbappe. I think it's scared the shit out of FSG to take gamble's like that.

[CraigDS]

I think Markovic is one of the reasons we don't go and bid £20m+ for a Pulisic and Mbappe. I think it's scared the shit out of FSG to take gamble's like that.

Do we have to read your issessant guesswork in every single fucking thread?

[Chalky Boots]

I think Markovic is one of the reasons we don't go and bid £20m+ for a Pulisic and Mbappe. I think it's scared the shit out of FSG to take gamble's like that.

I think it's more to do with Pulisic already playing for a top club in a top league with no obvious incentive to bin that all off and club with no real incentive to sell him.

[D🐶G]

Good luck to him at Hull, hope he does well so we can get back some of the £20m we wasted on him. Won't be here next season, would've thought that was pretty obvious.

[MPowerYNWA]

Good squad back up for Mane?

[redprodigal]

Do we have to read your issessant guesswork in every single fucking thread?

Any need for that?

[CraigDS]

Any need for that?

Given he posts the exact same stuff in every single thread, and given it's rather tiresome, then I think it's a fair question.

[Solomon Grundy]

I think Markovic is one of the reasons we don't go and bid £20m+ for a Pulisic and Mbappe. I think it's scared the shit out of FSG to take gamble's like that.

I think that's a load of rubbish myself.

[Groundskeeper Willie]

Not seen him play for ages, but doesn't he possess the necessary skills to be an effective player in a Klopp team?

If I'm wrong, what is it that he lacks?

[ggcc14]

Not seen him play for ages, but doesn't he possess the necessary skills to be an effective player in a Klopp team?

If I'm wrong, what is it that he lacks?

ability to track back and win the ball perhaps

[Chakan]

Not seen him play for ages, but doesn't he possess the necessary skills to be an effective player in a Klopp team?

If I'm wrong, what is it that he lacks?

Can be a bit of a headless chicken sometimes, his decision making in the final 3rd is sometimes way off point and his end product can be severely lacking. Although having said that he played very well yesterday , many times skinning his man and leaving him for dead. I think if Klopp took him under his wing he could become a really good player.

I'm not sure on his pressing back either as I've not seen him in that required role.

[clinical]

Do we have to read your issessant guesswork in every single fucking thread?

Just put me on your ignore list mate I could do without your humdrum replies. Talking about guesswork all the time. It's a fucking forum for opinions. It's not all about stating fucking facts

[CraigDS]

Just put me on your ignore list mate I could do without your humdrum replies.

I still see everyone else's reply to you, in every sodding thread, about the same sodding thing.

We get your views, but can you not just keep it to the relevant threads rather than finding a way to link every thread subject back to the same one view you've got so you can repeat it yet again?

[Eeyore]

Do we have to read your issessant guesswork in every single fucking thread?

I give up Craig. I can't guess the word too many ssss's for me.

[clinical]

I give up Craig. I can't guess the word too many ssss's for me.

[Groundskeeper Willie]

ability to track back and win the ball perhaps

Can be a bit of a headless chicken sometimes, his decision making in the final 3rd is sometimes way off point and his end product can be severely lacking. Although having said that he played very well yesterday , many times skinning his man and leaving him for dead. I think if Klopp took him under his wing he could become a really good player.

I'm not sure on his pressing back either as I've not seen him in that required role.

Thanks for replying both of you. If those are his weaknesses, then as you say Chakan, I'm sure it can be coached into him. Hopefully he does well the rest of the season and he's given a proper look in the preseason.

[CraigDS]

I give up Craig. I can't guess the word too many ssss's for me.

Stupid iPhone!

[Chakan]

Thanks for replying both of you. If those are his weaknesses, then as you say Chakan, I'm sure it can be coached into him. Hopefully he does well the rest of the season and he's given a proper look in the preseason.

No worries, also he's a confidence player, someone who needs to believe in himself and if that faulters he usually has a terrible game. Always thought he could be a decent player though, from the flashes of good play he's shown sometimes. I definitely think Klopp would be able to work with him. If Mane gets injured or something I wouldn't mind him as a backup. If we could get someone to rival Mane that would be ideal though.

[Thoros Of Myr]

Hope he plays really well so we recoup some of his fee in the summer.

[northern Monkey]

There's a good player there.

We need better than good and I do think think he has the decision making to be that for us.  I'm happy he seems to be rediscovering some form. Both for him and for us.  Best thing all round is he gets a decent club come in for him in the summer and we get a decent fee for him.

Always sad seeing a young career stall through a bad move.  My opinion is that's what we have seen with Markovich at Liverpool.

[Sheer Magnetism]

ability to track back and win the ball perhaps

Not from what I saw yesterday, he seemed to do it very well. I actually think we signed Markovic a summer too late. He'd have been immense in the Sterling role in the counter-attacking 2013-14 team, but instead he came into a team with Balotelli or Lambert as the lone striker and was then buried at wing back.

For what it's worth, I'm a big fan of Markovic but I don't see him succeeding in a team playing 4-3-3 where the opposition sit back, and certainly not in Mane's position. He doesn't have the end product, though that could potentially come in two or three years. If anything, he would be a Lallana replacement - a quick, tricky, creative outlet in midfield. It's largely irrelevant because I don't think he'll play for us again, but I'd have loved to see how he would have done with Klopp's arm around his shoulder.

[redprodigal]

Given he posts the exact same stuff in every single thread, and given it's rather tiresome, then I think it's a fair question.

Fair enough, stop it clinical 

[RedForeverTT]

Not from what I saw yesterday, he seemed to do it very well. I actually think we signed Markovic a summer too late. He'd have been immense in the Sterling role in the counter-attacking 2013-14 team, but instead he came into a team with Balotelli or Lambert as the lone striker and was then buried at wing back.

For what it's worth, I'm a big fan of Markovic but I don't see him succeeding in a team playing 4-3-3 where the opposition sit back, and certainly not in Mane's position. He doesn't have the end product, though that could potentially come in two or three years. If anything, he would be a Lallana replacement - a quick, tricky, creative outlet in midfield. It's largely irrelevant because I don't think he'll play for us again, but I'd have loved to see how he would have done with Klopp's arm around his shoulder.

Its hard to say but it was a gamble investment on hindsight and the Markovic we anticipated didn't quite materialise. He had one or 2 good games for us and then disappear for the others. PL is a ruthless league and if you don't take your chance it is never going to keep giving until you are ready. The club have given him enough chances like we have given Balotelli. But there comes a point when it is better to cut losses, unless you are Chelsea and could afford to keep giving out contracts and send them on loan until they come good a la Victor Moses.

[Giono]

If he does well at Hull I think a mid or lower table club may pay 15 mil or so like Ibe got us.


He's a decent player in the right set=up but not for how we play.

[Fiasco]

ability to track back and win the ball perhaps

I'm not sure that is the case. I remember him putting in a lot of dirty work under Rodgers, especially when he played wing back.

[KOTP]

He's a decent player but don't think he will be with us next season he isn't good enough for first team obviously and markovic to me is a confidence player who needs to be playing week in week out to show his best so wouldn't really do well as a squad player

[wemmick]

Good showing against Arsenal. I don't think he has the dribbling or goal scoring skill to make it here as a winger, but I think he could be decent back-up to Gini. They have similar skill sets. We'll see what Klopp has in store for him, but I will be surprised if Klopp sells him on the cheap. Only 22 and he seems to be maturing. Has a good skill set for the PL if he can sort out his timidness.   

[Haggis36]

I'm pleased he's had two and half decent games for Hull (where the expectations go about as far as "lets maybe not get relegated") but he's nowhere near the quality required for this football club, not even as a squad player. I'm not even convinced he's any better than the likes of Ojo or Wilson talent-wise. He's decent at running with the ball at pace into wide open spaces but that's basically useless for us given the way teams play against us. Other than than that, he doesn't really have any standout attributes.

Nice bloke, but he's found his level. If Klopp wanted to have a look at him or give him a chance, he'd have been here in January (when our games were piling up and we desperately wanted a winger) instead of being farmed out to Hull. I'd be staggered if he wasn't sold this summer.

[Black Bull Nova]

You know players do bounce back, who'd have put money on Victor Moses being a regular in the current Chelsea team.

Having said that the only spark I saw from him in a Liverpool shirt was in that European game when he got sent off for having too much spark. We want him to be a world beater and justify the £20m but I'd say he's a 20-1 bet that he will. Nice to keep an eye on him in the PL though, at the very least may command a fee if he does OK. Tell him not to make Niasse look to good though, don't need his fee bumping up (on top of him now being a blue nose hero)

[xbugawugax]

looks like he is kind of having a mini revival of his career of sorts at hull.

A good player but just seem to play on confidence.

just hope he performs well enough to give klopp some second thoughts. Even if he is not klopp's plan, maybe we could recoup some of the money we cashed on him.