Topic: Uefa to hold hearing into Mamadou Sakho’s failed drug test for Liverpool

[CraigDS]

Would be bloody amazing if true. Also questionable why he was banned at all in the first place if it wasn't in the banned list.

[telekon]

#freesakho 

Also: LAWYERED

[Beninger]

Le Parisien says that the substance Sakho took was never on the banned list, which his legal team argued from the start. Apparently, he's been training twice a day with Liverpool pending the suspension being lifted. He's currently on holiday in Maldives and could fly back to France on Sunday, although it's thought he may not be selected for the French squad, since Deschamps earlier this morning replaced the injured Jeremy Mathieu with Umtiti

Possibly why he never disputed taking it. If it's not on the list he can't be banned for it.

[thekitkatshuffler]

People online saying it will be a disgrace if Sakho is cleared, as it shows that football is soft on doping. 

[SerbianScouser]

People like him and that Guardian writer Barney Ronay can piss off.

James Pearce will also be devastated. Poor little weasel.

[MobileBayRed]

This is great news.

Well maybe not for Kolo.

[cptrios]

Liverpool Echo - I posted the story on page 5

Whoops sorry, thread's moving fast.

No one is saying they didn't deserve to win on that night. What everyone is saying is that we were robbed of our ACTUAL chances at the game.

I honestly don't give a shit if Toure was MOTM or not, one player in the team who is known to be a starter being taken out changes EVERYTHING.

Not to mention the massive morale damage it must have done to the team, and obviously did do to the fans.

[HighSix]

Problem is, this has come too late. Deschamps has already called up Umtiti after Mathieu was injured and his squad is complete. Now, if Mama makes the squad, Deschamps has to send one back.

Would love it if he sends Koscielny packing, but I'm not holding my breath.

Deschamps spoke about his concerns with too many left footed CBs ... If he is swapped in will be for one of them rather than his only right footed one.

[thelinnen]

Suppose we can complain that he wasn't eligible for the Europa League final but Toure was excellent.

[4pool]

Wonder how the Twitter ITK's who had Sakho down as having his contract cancelled by the club a couple days ago are doing now? 

[sms1986]

People online saying it will be a disgrace if Sakho is cleared, as it shows that football is soft on doping. 

They almost certainly wouldn't be saying that if he played for their team.

[sms1986]

This is great news.

Well maybe not for Kolo.

Hopefully he'll still get a new contract, he's an experienced defender who I hope will eventually be a coach at the club once he retires.

[Zee_26]

Brilliant news if true

[NaivetyinBlack]

Deschamps spoke about his concerns with too many left footed CBs ... If he is swapped in will be for one of them rather than his only right footed one.

Possibly. Mangala can be the one then. Rami is surely the RCB in that team.

[thekitkatshuffler]

And why the fuck does it matter what some retards say on Twitter seriously?

It doesn't.

In the same way that it doesn't matter what an idiot on an online forum says.


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[AirConGipsyRed]

That's just double speak for he is not guilty but they need time to create an explanation that makes them not look like fools, and protect themselves legally...

Is the correct annswer.

[BeautifulGame91]

UEFA has delayed a hearing regarding theLiverpool defender's failed drugs test and opted not to extend the provisional 30-day suspension issued last month.

The ECHO understands that Sakho's defence questioned whether the substance he had taken should even be on the prohibited list - leading to UEFA ordering their own disciplinary body to first investigate whether the substance should even be on the WADA list.

What does it mean by delayed .Does that mean if UEFA decides at a later date that the substance should be on a later date can again relaunch  the hearing and ban him ?

Really confusing this

[wellred82]

Suppose we can complain that he wasn't eligible for the Europa League final but Toure was excellent.

How many league games did he miss? Can't remember.


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[wellred82]

UEFA should give us a free player of our choice from any club.


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[NaivetyinBlack]

Sakho is likely to explore his options, including a potential lawsuit against UEFA. - Sky

This is just speculation IMO. No one would want to ruffle more feathers against this obvious clusterfuck. I think he'd be just delighted to be in the Equipe de France again. If Deschamps picks him.

[Zoomers]

Whoops sorry, thread's moving fast.

Not to mention the massive morale damage it must have done to the team, and obviously did do to the fans.

Exactly, there's so many factors that come into play that saying it wouldn't have affected our chances is nonsense.

[thekitkatshuffler]

UEFA should give us a free player of our choice from any club.

It'd be harsh on Leicester to not receive a fee for Drinkwater.

[Alan_X]

fhen why the fuck did they ban him in the first place???

He wasn't banned in the first place. It was reported that a sample had shown banned substances and while the investigation was ongoing the club chose not to play him:

A Liverpool statement said: “Yesterday, a formal communication was received from Uefa stating that they are investigating a possible anti-doping rule violation by Mamadou Sakho. The player will respond to Uefa on the matter.

“The player is currently not subject to any playing suspension. However, the club, in consultation with the player, has decided that while this process is followed the player will not be available for selection for matches.”

[SerbianScouser]

What does it mean by delayed .Does that mean if UEFA decides at a later date that the substance should be on a later date can again relaunch  the hearing and ban him ?

Really confusing this

If they had the case they would never have allowed for his 30 day suspension to run out.

[Schmidt]

He wasn't banned in the first place. It was reported that a sample had shown banned substances and while the investigation was ongoing the club chose not to play him:

A Liverpool statement said: “Yesterday, a formal communication was received from Uefa stating that they are investigating a possible anti-doping rule violation by Mamadou Sakho. The player will respond to Uefa on the matter.

“The player is currently not subject to any playing suspension. However, the club, in consultation with the player, has decided that while this process is followed the player will not be available for selection for matches.”

He did get a 30 day suspension shortly after.

[Groundskeeper Willie]

James Pearce will also be devastated. Poor little weasel.

What did PEarce say?

[sms1986]

How many league games did he miss? Can't remember.


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He was suspended on the morning of the Newcastle game, so he missed five games (three draws, one win and one loss).

[Alan_X]

People online saying it will be a disgrace if Sakho is cleared, as it shows that football is soft on doping. 

People online are idiots.

[Levitz]

He wasn't banned in the first place. It was reported that a sample had shown banned substances and while the investigation was ongoing the club chose not to play him:

A Liverpool statement said: “Yesterday, a formal communication was received from Uefa stating that they are investigating a possible anti-doping rule violation by Mamadou Sakho. The player will respond to Uefa on the matter.

“The player is currently not subject to any playing suspension. However, the club, in consultation with the player, has decided that while this process is followed the player will not be available for selection for matches.”

He was then banned for 30 days by UEFA, club never banned him

[Alan_X]

He did get a 30 day suspension shortly after.

Yeah - I know. Great news if he's cleared.

[Peabee]

Chuffed for the lad.   

His defence all along was that it wasn't prohibited?  It sounds like a massive screw-up by UEFA.  Yet again. 

[Haggis36]

Not sure this is as cut and dried as everyone seems to think? The Echo article says "Sakho's defence questioned whether the substance he had taken should even be on the prohibited list" which implied that it WAS on the banned list, but it then goes on to suggest that UEFA are investigating whether or not it should have been on there, which is a separate matter. There could be an argument that it doesn't matter whether it should have been on the list - if it was, then you have broken the rules regardless.

They have also delayed his hearing, but from all the reports it appears as though it will still take place.

They haven't extended his provisional 30 day ban, which means he's free to play until the outcome of that hearing, but it doesn't necessarily say he's 100% cleared and the reports I've seen are a bit contradictory.

I'd fucking love it if he was cleared, but don't think anything is really concrete at this stage.

[Son of Spion]

People online saying it will be a disgrace if Sakho is cleared, as it shows that football is soft on doping. 

No doubt many of these people hold anti-Liverpool feelings and wouldn't want any facts getting in the way of their confirmation bias.

[RedKenWah]

If he's cleared...

We should take their fines against us trade them for the pending legal case from us to UEFA and sue the absolute fuck out of them... And then when we win, get Sakho to set off a flare for the shits and giggles...

Bastards

[redgriffin73]

This is mad! Great if it happens, but totally mad.

Also, this...

Would be bloody amazing if true. Also questionable why he was banned at all in the first place if it wasn't in the banned list.

[Hij]

The Europa game is unfortunate. However, we had a 1-0 lead at half time and we squandered it with a terrible performance from the entire team in the second half of the final. It's horrible that we were without him due to this rather massive cock up but I think in the circumstances we should accept that we lost the final with good grace.

Beyond that, I'm absolutely delighted for Sakho and hope he gets the chance to represent his country in international competition within his own country - perhaps a once in a lifetime experience for him and the most important result in my opinion as of right now if no sanctions are forthcoming.

[mersey_paradiso]

Brilliant news for Sakho and for us ! 

This is either another example of massive incompetence or possibly corruption from UEFA .

Liverpool looking likely to get to a European final after knocking United out and then beating Dortmund ? Let's throw a spanner in the works...

[SerbianScouser]

Uefa says decision will be made within next few days.

[Sarge]

Uefa Statement:

The 30-day provisional suspension ends today. The chairman of the Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body decided not to extend it. The player would thus be free to play as from tomorrow. A decision on the case will be made within the next few days.

[Levitz]

UEFA statement

'The 30-day provisional suspension ends today. The chairman of the Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body decided not to extend it. The player would thus be free to play as from tomorrow. A decision on the case will be made within the next few days.'

So he's free to play for the next few days until they make a decision?! Odd.