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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #360 on: May 8, 2016, 12:38:03 pm »
SuperCroatDejanLovrenUsedToBeAttrocious?

Good god. The word genius gets used too easily these days.

But THAT is genius. ;D
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #361 on: May 8, 2016, 02:30:48 pm »
SuperCroatDejanLovrenUsedToBeAttrocious?
Big price tag and tons of naff mistakes that always cost us
Now he's boss, his heading and his tackling are ferocious
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #362 on: May 8, 2016, 03:13:53 pm »
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You go through all that hard (brilliant) work and you spell atrocious wrong!? :nirnir

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #363 on: May 8, 2016, 04:20:52 pm »
Hold on a second, he was dreadful for long periods so people had every right to be moaning twats. He's playing at the level that was expected of him when he was bought. A lot of that is down to playing under a manager who knows how to set up a team defensively. Also he's had a regular run in the team and is thriving off that. People chance, circumstances change and opinions change, such is life!

I don't think he was dreadful for long periods. He was very inconsistent and wasn't anywhere near the level we wanted him to be, but many on here were singling him out game after game for one mistake or misplaced pass and deliberately ignoring anything he did well.

As another poster has eloquently stated on this thread - his performances were as much about circumstance as they were about ability and confidence. His partnership with Skrtel, his proximity to Moreno, a team under pressure, a new system, playing for a manager that had yet to prove himself as a defensive tactician, and playing in front of an indecisive keeper all had a part to play in a very indifferent season last year.

'Playing at the level expected of him when he was bought' is exactly the kind of assumption that leads to impatience and judging a player too early. If you genuinely believe that you buy a player and they simply perform at the same level as they did at their old club then you will often be disappointed as its very often not the case (Schneiderlin, Di Maria, Benteke, and Pedro being a few recent examples). There are dozens of examples of players that have a slump in form when moving clubs, both from within and outside the premier league, and often it has little to do with their ability as a player.

I'm all for constructive criticism but too often on this site it's simplistic one-dimensional football analysis (i.e. he's made a few mistakes therefore he's shite), instead of seeing the bigger picture, understanding the wider reasons for a players lack of form, and giving a player time to adapt to new systems, new teammates, new expectations or a new manager.

I'm acutely aware that 'opinions change', as this site is like a rollercoaster of bi-polarism at times. The point I was making is that there are enough examples at this club of players that have turned their form around to at least take a little more than a single season before writing a player off completely.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #364 on: May 16, 2016, 03:42:45 pm »
Not picked for the Euros. Whole pre-season of him, Matip and Moreno being drilled defensively.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #365 on: May 16, 2016, 03:46:12 pm »
Not picked for the Euros. Whole pre-season of him, Matip and Moreno being drilled defensively.

we don't know what'll happen to Moreno though to be fair. Looks like we're interested in Hector.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #366 on: May 16, 2016, 03:49:16 pm »
we don't know what'll happen to Moreno though to be fair. Looks like we're interested in Hector.

He's top of the Klopp hug league.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #367 on: May 16, 2016, 03:58:56 pm »
Pretty silly of him to not just suck it up and apologise imo

Unless the manager is massively in the wrong, which it doesn't sound like. He's seemed much more at home with us than he ever has in the last few months, do what it takes to make the same true with the national team. Basically bringing unhappiness on himself for the sake of what sounds like a petty squabble.

Unless he doesn't really give a shit either way, in which case he can have a proper preseason :P

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #368 on: May 16, 2016, 04:02:28 pm »
Yeh, stupid thing to fall out about. Still, looks like we will benefit so meh.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #369 on: May 16, 2016, 04:10:01 pm »
Not arsed. Get a full pre-season with Matip and Lovren together. That's a massive positive in my book.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #370 on: May 16, 2016, 04:20:32 pm »
Need more of our internationals falling out with their managers and staying home.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #371 on: May 16, 2016, 04:57:13 pm »

SuperCroatDejanLovrenUsedToBeAttrocious?

Good god. The word genius gets used too easily these days.

But THAT is genius. ;D


i feel like an idiot but would someone kindly point it out for me? I don't seem to get it. 
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #372 on: May 16, 2016, 05:03:37 pm »
i feel like an idiot but would someone kindly point it out for me? I don't seem to get it.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #373 on: May 16, 2016, 08:08:23 pm »
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Quite simply bannerworthy!  Genius.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #374 on: May 16, 2016, 08:20:57 pm »
Quite simply bannerworthy!  Genius.

Ripping off the Igor chant, innit.


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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #375 on: May 16, 2016, 08:51:02 pm »
Ripping off the Igor chant, innit.



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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #376 on: May 16, 2016, 08:53:45 pm »
Not picked for the Euros. Whole pre-season of him, Matip and Moreno being drilled defensively.

May be a mistake by the Croats not picking him, who else do they have at CB.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #377 on: May 16, 2016, 08:57:34 pm »
May be a mistake by the Croats not picking him, who else do they have at CB.

Nobody really, he's the best CB Croatia has and he's in good form.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #378 on: May 16, 2016, 09:02:59 pm »
Ripping off the Igor chant, innit.



Yep! Forgot about this thread and was about to come back and own up to ripping off the Igor one. But too late, now I've just been outed as a plagiarist! :D

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #379 on: May 16, 2016, 09:06:57 pm »
we don't know what'll happen to Moreno though to be fair. Looks like we're interested in Hector.

And to be honest we don't know about Sakho either, and wished he'd be thought after well by the fans even in regards to his stupid mistake.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #380 on: May 16, 2016, 09:48:11 pm »
Nobody really, he's the best CB Croatia has and he's in good form.
Croatian manager is a regional mafioso's puppet who's playing tough to assert some authority because he has none through his achievements.

Thats just stupid.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #381 on: May 16, 2016, 09:51:57 pm »
Yep! Forgot about this thread and was about to come back and own up to ripping off the Igor one. But too late, now I've just been outed as a plagiarist! :D

If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #382 on: May 16, 2016, 10:10:13 pm »
Thats just stupid.

It is, but that whole national team is a bit of a joke these days so nobody is too fussed about it. It's basically a private show of the FA President Šuker and the NK DInamo owner - who are using it to sell players and earn money for themselves. I'm glad Lovren is not going - he'll get a good preseason and have some rest.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #383 on: July 5, 2016, 10:50:48 am »
All of twitter he's being made captain. Has something happened or is it more twitter nonsense?
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #384 on: July 5, 2016, 10:54:54 am »
All of twitter he's being made captain. Has something happened or is it more twitter nonsense?

Probably nonsense and it may have come off the back of Henderson being pictured in a restaurant in Stoke as there's rumours he may be on his way, you know what this shite is like.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #385 on: July 5, 2016, 11:23:50 am »
All of twitter he's being made captain. Has something happened or is it more twitter nonsense?

its twitter. the bastion of truth and reliability.

His birthday today. only 27 and you know what they say about defenders and age.

Moreno turning 24 today as well.

Wishing both have a brilliant season with maybe a couple of medals before adding another year to their age.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #386 on: July 5, 2016, 11:51:59 am »
All of twitter he's being made captain. Has something happened or is it more twitter nonsense?

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #388 on: September 16, 2016, 10:23:59 pm »
Dejan Lovren eh? Who'd have thought it
Ironically it was against Chelsea at home about 2 years ago when some had already closed his Liverpool career when he tried an overhead clearance by the CT which went wrong and so many people never forgive him. He's been tainted with a prejudice against him for some reason as he's slowly built his own confidence.

I've always said there needs to be another CB to compliment & support ours, but as competition not necessarily replacement.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #389 on: September 16, 2016, 10:26:03 pm »
Stunning turnaround. Today was just another performance in what's starting to be an impressively long string of performances where he ranges anywhere from solid to dominant. Today was the latter.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #390 on: September 16, 2016, 10:35:42 pm »
I hope he spends the rest of his career with us, he's proven his doubters wrong and I bet the goal tonight won't be his last this season.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #391 on: September 16, 2016, 10:37:13 pm »
Brilliant.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #392 on: September 16, 2016, 10:43:53 pm »
He was superb again tonight.

He showed great composure for his goal too.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #393 on: September 16, 2016, 10:52:51 pm »
He always tries to steer the team. We have two dominant centre halves who also want to drive the team forward
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #394 on: September 16, 2016, 10:58:17 pm »
Cracking goal tonight.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #395 on: September 16, 2016, 11:04:49 pm »
Superb this evening.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #397 on: September 16, 2016, 11:11:00 pm »
Man, I got him so wrong. I said after his first season he'd never be a top CB, just didn't have it in him to not have a brain fart. He's turned those brain farts into FUCK YOU goals. Love it. What a class finish too, hard enough, without the distraction of Mane half going for it as well.
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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #398 on: September 16, 2016, 11:14:12 pm »
Really impressed with him this season. He and Matip strongly remind me of Vidic and Ferdinand.

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Re: Dejan Lovren
« Reply #399 on: September 17, 2016, 12:17:21 am »
What a turnaround, eh? I honestly thought he was abysmal during his first season with us, but he has improved massively and has won me over. That goal against Dortmund was his redemption, and now he's a great part of the team. Cult hero, maybe? Or just plain hero...

Excellent goal today, too. It's always nice to see a defender scoring not a header!