Topic: Dejan Lovren

[Burnshard]

Looked immense last night, looked lost against Swansea. It really does show how the CB pairing is so important.

[Solomon Grundy]

Looked immense last night, looked lost against Swansea. It really does show how the CB pairing is so important.

 Yeah must not help when Skrtel is dropping 5 yards deeper than himself. Poor Dejan mustn't  have a clue whats going on playing next to him.

[MD1990]

I always had faith in Lovren. Delighted he is now showing what a good CB he is.

[Funky_Gibbons]

Yeah must not help when Skrtel is dropping 5 yards deeper than himself. Poor Dejan mustn't  have a clue whats going on playing next to him.

Probably didn't help getting moved over to LCB after several months at RCB, but I agree Skrtel was a major contributing factor and Lovren is not the only player to struggle alongside him.

[ThePoolMan]

I had given up on Lovren coming good but thankfully Klopp has brought the best out of him. All credit to him for improving to such a degree.

[cornelius]

Have to admit I didn't think he'd be able to turn his situation around. Incredible.

[Yiannis]

Imperious again.

[bravoco]

So pleased for him. Best LFC career comeback since Lucas?

[mikeb58]

He even looks the part on the pitch, calm assured and confident. Some players have that knack, Stevie was a classic example, it's like look at me, I belong here.
Players like that ooze class, if Lovren continues to improve I'm sure he will make it into that category.

[Vork+The Knights of Good]

I get the instinct to give Klopp lots/all of the credit, but he's been good for longer than Klopp's been here. I think his game has taken another step up since Klopp arrived, but I honestly think the biggest thing Klopp has done to improve Lovren, aside from DL being a natural fit for Klopp's style, is dropping Skrtel. For one, Skrtel's just an abomination of a CB, so Lovren doesn't have to play alongside that, but it also allows him to play on the right, next to Clyne. That's just a tremendously solid right side of a back 4. Clyne is rarely caught out of position (unlike Moreno) and it allows Lovren to concentrate on the things he excels at and avoid the areas where he's weaker.

[Stussy]

Lazaric.

 

[bodhisattva]

Im happy to admit I'd written him off too, as others have said so important in that position to have good partnerships and as his confidence has grown he's just got
better and better and on form under Klopp he's been our best CB. Still very young too for the position he plays so he can get better.

Those 3 signings from Southampton aren't looking too bad now are they

[freddwarf]

Proof if it was needed that Klopp can improve players. All the defense has improved under Klopp. Wasn't many had time for Lovren, Moreno has his critics, but Klopp has improved them all. Look at Lallana, was looking like a luxury, always on the periphery but now he makes a difference.

Rodgers might say.."I could of done it given time"..but he didn't, might of in the longer term but that's football, that's the pressure of managing a club like LFC...get it wrong for a period of time and your out.

[Euskadi]

I think Lovren is another example of what low confidence can do to a footballer. I have posted on this forum as many others that there was a good in fact possibly a very good CB in him but that he was in this vicious cycle of poor performances and low confidence. Really happy to see him doing well, he was imperious last night.

[Pistolero]

massive bollocks this fella...rode his iffy form and settling in period without a flinch and has emerged stronger for it...undoubted captain material if he keeps it up

[Lone Star Red]

I, like many others, are happy to be proven wrong by his turnaround.

Klopp has really put him in a position to succeed as well. Dropping Skrtel and allowing Lovren to play next to someone as good as Clyne has only helped Dejan grow in confidence and stature.

He's good at passing the ball out of the back and is excellent in the air. Has all the makings of being Klopp's number one choice at RCB for the next several years. Something I thought I'd never type.

[Asam]

We have a much better basis to our defence now, there are far fewer attacks for our defenders to deal
With since we are far less porous under Klopp

[freddwarf]

Think it's the aggression he lacked in the air more than anything. He wasn't really attacking the ball, blocking and tracking. You have to have a defender in there who wants it. Attacks the ball, bit of strength and aggression to get there and win it.

None better that Terry at that. Lovren has improved that side of his game, also better understanding with Sakho was a big help. Pity he's now facing a long ban.

[6BigCups]

To be fair, if he carried on playing under Rodgers he'd of stayed horrendous and ended up out the door quicker than you could say Southampton. Especially if paired with Skrtel.

I think its a combination of a new system, increase in confidence and lack of a partner who defends completely different to him (Skrtel).

The turn around has been huge. I never thought i'd say this though he's become a rock.

[Upinsmoke]

I just hope that whoever partners him next season, be that matip or another, he manages to keep up these performances.

[rafathegaffa83]

I think it was Bilic who said that Lovren worked best when he only had to concentrate on his own game. Having to worry about other defenders or passing the ball around, doesn't work for him. Since Klopp has come in, his role has been massively simplified and the results are there to see. Dropping Skrtel as his defence partner has also worked wonders.

[FlashGordon]

Hold my hands up and admit I got it completely wrong about him. I foolishly wanted him gone from the club and wondered how we ever paid 20 million for him. Currently in a food coma after a massive helping of humble pie.

[Claire.]

To be fair, if he carried on playing under Rodgers he'd of stayed horrendous and ended up out the door quicker than you could say Southampton. Especially if paired with Skrtel.

I think its a combination of a new system, increase in confidence and lack of a partner who defends completely different to him (Skrtel).


The turn around has been huge. I never thought i'd say this though he's become a rock.

Rodgers could've had Baresi and Costacurta at centre half and make them look like Sunday league players to be honest.

Lovren is showing the ability that whoever scouted him saw, that Carra and Neville saw on their Monday night football wankfest, and it's fantastic. Long may it continue.

[mercurial]

Posting after a long time but Lovren's turnaround has been immense. Also, the mental strength to hear the abuses and keep believing and trying to perform against the odds is a trait of great players. In this form, he is a very good defender, one of the best in the league. If we start pairing him with someone who can compliment him like De Vrij, it would be great. The next season look much more promising. To have a settled defence with good back up choices added to the wings would put us firmly in line for a good season. We have a midfield now ticking into place and we need to buy there a player or two. The forward line looks good if we replace benteke. I think all said and done, we are progressing with a clear direction and Lovren is an integral part on how Klopp wants us to defend on the front foot. So did Brendan I must say but it was never implemented by him properly.

[keyop]

Echoes of the Lucas revisionism in here - will fans never learn?

Saying 'I'm happy to be proven wrong' doesn't forgive anyone on here for being such moaning twats about Lovren for a whole season.

[SerbianScouser]

Only one question left. Will he have a good chemistry and understanding with Matip the way he did with Sakho?

If the answer is yes it will be safe for us to say we can win the league with two of them at the back. That`s all we need to know.

[Funky_Gibbons]

What I have found interesting lately is that in possession our centre backs have started splitting again and Can drops into the space between, much like we did under Rodgers and Spurs do under Pochettino.

It was these situations that Lovren often found himself exposed out wide but we haven't seen him looking vulnerable, quite the opposite. The tackle he made on the Villarreal player which lead to Milner passing to Lallana is an example of how he looks solid when he's one on one.

[xbugawugax]

What I have found interesting lately is that in possession our centre backs have started splitting again and Can drops into the space between, much like we did under Rodgers and Spurs do under Pochettino.

It was these situations that Lovren often found himself exposed out wide but we haven't seen him looking vulnerable, quite the opposite. The tackle he made on the Villarreal player which lead to Milner passing to Lallana is an example of how he looks solid when he's one on one.

it was only in the villareal game wasnt it. I noticed that too. Choice of personnel maybe with Emre dropping deep and maybe under klopps instructions as well.

[God's Left Peg]

Echoes of the Lucas revisionism in here - will fans never learn?

Saying 'I'm happy to be proven wrong' doesn't forgive anyone on here for being such moaning twats about Lovren for a whole season.

Forgive??? Turn it in.

[Escorcio]

it was only in the villareal game wasnt it. I noticed that too. Choice of personnel maybe with Emre dropping deep and maybe under klopps instructions as well.

Definitely happened in the last league game with Chirivella dropping deep and picking the ball up inbetween the CBs (He gave the ball away quite a bit early on though)

[an fear dearg]

Echoes of the Lucas revisionism in here - will fans never learn?

Saying 'I'm happy to be proven wrong' doesn't forgive anyone on here for being such moaning twats about Lovren for a whole season.

Hold on a second, he was dreadful for long periods so people had every right to be moaning twats. He's playing at the level that was expected of him when he was bought. A lot of that is down to playing under a manager who knows how to set up a team defensively. Also he's had a regular run in the team and is thriving off that. People chance, circumstances change and opinions change, such is life!

[IanZG]

Hold on a second, he was dreadful for long periods so people had every right to be moaning twats.

That's a matter of opinion, I feel the amount of abuse he got was nothing short of embarrassing, just as it was with Lucas and plenty of others (both players and managers) before him...

[Pistolero]

forgive

 

[-Willo-]

That's a matter of opinion, I feel the amount of abuse he got was nothing short of embarrassing, just as it was with Lucas and plenty of others (both players and managers) before him...

He was shit and got told he was shit, now he's ace, that's all there is too it.

[Red-Soldier]

He was shit and got told he was shit, now he's ace, that's all there is too it.

Basically this.

He was shit and now he's great!

[6BigCups]

Only one question left. Will he have a good chemistry and understanding with Matip the way he did with Sakho?

If the answer is yes it will be safe for us to say we can win the league with two of them at the back. That`s all we need to know.

To be fair, Wes Morgan and Robert Huth just won the league FFS. Kind of disproves the fact that you need two god-tier CB's to win the league like we've always believed.

[SerbianScouser]

it was only in the villareal game wasnt it. I noticed that too.

It was due to them having two out-and-out strikers, in those situations you want an extra player at the back in your build-up for security.

[Crosby Nick]

He was shit and got told he was shit, now he's ace, that's all there is too it.

SuperCroatDejanLovrenUsedToBeAttrocious?

[-Willo-]

SuperCroatDejanLovrenUsedToBeAttrocious?

This needs to now be a thing

[Koparoo]

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