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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #280 on: November 23, 2014, 05:20:59 pm »
Thing is in our state, the games against the likes of Stoke and Sunderland at home will end up being a grind all season long. We can't even pick out any home games for an easy three points. They're all going to be tough work.

Stoke and Sunderland are both going to set up defensively well, and like most mid-table fans rely on, we have to hope we click for one week, or maybe get some luck or even hope the opposition don't turn up. Leicester are playing like total shit at the moment, but that'll likely be another tough away struggle too.

It's desperate, but we really need the opposition to start contributing with some shit performances.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #282 on: November 23, 2014, 05:36:34 pm »
Crystal Palace (A) 0
Stoke  (H) 3
Leicester (A) 1
Sunderland (H) 3
Man Utd (A) 0

So that's 7 points, I'll be very surprised if we get more than that.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #283 on: November 23, 2014, 05:38:31 pm »
5.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #284 on: November 23, 2014, 05:49:56 pm »
Our current form, opponents current form, lack of quality players, absence of winning ambition and passion = 3 points.
That's if luck is on our side.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #286 on: November 23, 2014, 07:15:53 pm »
Crystal Palace (A) 0 (just played)
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #287 on: November 23, 2014, 10:48:39 pm »
I'm putting money against us from now on. Reckon I'll be at least a thousand pounds richer by the end of the season

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #288 on: November 23, 2014, 11:31:05 pm »
It's become quite easy to predict.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #289 on: November 24, 2014, 12:14:18 am »
None. Anything else is a bonus.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #290 on: November 24, 2014, 04:33:22 am »
Given that we're scoring an average of about 1.5 goals less per match compared to last season, and our defense is performing at about the same level as last season, here is what our next 11 matches (all of which we won last season) look like with 2 goals subtracted from our score each match from last season's equivalent results:

For example, our next match is home against Stoke.  Last season we won this match 1-0.  Subtract 2 goals for -1-0, account for the minimum score of 0, and the prediction is a 0-0 draw.

Predict D Liverpool 0–0 Stoke City
Predict L Leicester City (Norwich City) 2–1 Liverpool
Predict L Liverpool 0–1 Sunderland
Predict W Manchester United 0–1 Liverpool
Predict W Liverpool 3–1 Arsenal
Predict L Burnley (Fulham) 2–1 Liverpool
Predict L Liverpool 2–3 Swansea City
Predict W Liverpool 3–1 Leicester City (Norwich City)
Predict D Sunderland 1–1 Liverpool
Predict D Aston Villa 0–0 Liverpool
Predict W Liverpool 2–1 West Ham United

So how did this predictive method perform against matches that have already happened?  Not the actual final score, just W, L or D

Predict L Liverpool 0–1 Southampton (actual W 3-1) wrong
Predict L Manchester City 2–0 Liverpool (actual L 3-1) correct
Predict W Tottenham Hotspur 0–3 Liverpool (actual W 0-3) correct + score match!
Predict L Liverpool 0–2 Aston Villa (actual L 0-1) correct
Predict L West Ham United 1–0 Liverpool (actual L 3-1) correct
Predict W Liverpool 2–0 Everton (actual D 1-1)  wrong
Predict W Liverpool 2–1 West Bromwich Albion (actual W 2-1) correct + score match!
Predict W QPR (Cardiff City) 3–4 Liverpool (actual W 2-3) correct
Predict D Liverpool 0–0 Hull City (actual D 0-0) correct + score match!
Predict L Newcastle United 2–0 Liverpool (actual L 1-0) correct
Predict L Liverpool 0–2 Chelsea (actual L 1-2) correct
Predict L Crystal Palace 3–1 Liverpool (actual L 3-1) correct + score match!

So, just subtracting 2 goals from our score from last season's equivalent result correctly predicted the WLD in 10 out of 12 matches, and correctly predicted the score in 4 out of 12.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #291 on: November 26, 2014, 03:40:59 pm »
Feeling oddly positive this afternoon.

We couldn't really have cherry picked a much better set of fixtures over the next few games...and it's came at the perfect time.

Ludo - Win
Stoke - Win
Leicester - Win
Sunderland - Win
Basel - Win

BOOM.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #292 on: November 26, 2014, 04:13:15 pm »
So, just subtracting 2 goals from our score from last season's equivalent result correctly predicted the WLD in 10 out of 12 matches, and correctly predicted the score in 4 out of 12.

Just had to log in and say well done!

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #293 on: November 26, 2014, 04:55:44 pm »
Given that we're scoring an average of about 1.5 goals less per match compared to last season, and our defense is performing at about the same level as last season, here is what our next 11 matches (all of which we won last season) look like with 2 goals subtracted from our score each match from last season's equivalent results:

For example, our next match is home against Stoke.  Last season we won this match 1-0.  Subtract 2 goals for -1-0, account for the minimum score of 0, and the prediction is a 0-0 draw.

Predict D Liverpool 0–0 Stoke City
Predict L Leicester City (Norwich City) 2–1 Liverpool
Predict L Liverpool 0–1 Sunderland
Predict W Manchester United 0–1 Liverpool
Predict W Liverpool 3–1 Arsenal
Predict L Burnley (Fulham) 2–1 Liverpool
Predict L Liverpool 2–3 Swansea City
Predict W Liverpool 3–1 Leicester City (Norwich City)
Predict D Sunderland 1–1 Liverpool
Predict D Aston Villa 0–0 Liverpool
Predict W Liverpool 2–1 West Ham United

So how did this predictive method perform against matches that have already happened?  Not the actual final score, just W, L or D

Predict L Liverpool 0–1 Southampton (actual W 3-1) wrong
Predict L Manchester City 2–0 Liverpool (actual L 3-1) correct
Predict W Tottenham Hotspur 0–3 Liverpool (actual W 0-3) correct + score match!
Predict L Liverpool 0–2 Aston Villa (actual L 0-1) correct
Predict L West Ham United 1–0 Liverpool (actual L 3-1) correct
Predict W Liverpool 2–0 Everton (actual D 1-1)  wrong
Predict W Liverpool 2–1 West Bromwich Albion (actual W 2-1) correct + score match!
Predict W QPR (Cardiff City) 3–4 Liverpool (actual W 2-3) correct
Predict D Liverpool 0–0 Hull City (actual D 0-0) correct + score match!
Predict L Newcastle United 2–0 Liverpool (actual L 1-0) correct
Predict L Liverpool 0–2 Chelsea (actual L 1-2) correct
Predict L Crystal Palace 3–1 Liverpool (actual L 3-1) correct + score match!

So, just subtracting 2 goals from our score from last season's equivalent result correctly predicted the WLD in 10 out of 12 matches, and correctly predicted the score in 4 out of 12.

Depressing that  :-\
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #294 on: November 27, 2014, 10:51:08 am »
                        Liverpool           v           Stoke City          3 pts           
           Leicester City       v           Liverpool          3pts           
           Liverpool           v           Sunderland      3 pts               
           Manchester United   v           Liverpool         0 pt           
           Liverpool           v           Arsenal               1 pt

10 pts
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #295 on: November 27, 2014, 11:03:42 am »

10 pts

That wouldn't be so bad. Don't fancy losing to United though. Hopefully their defensive injuries continue.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #296 on: November 27, 2014, 01:00:40 pm »
                        Liverpool           v           Stoke City          3 pts           
           Leicester City       v           Liverpool          3pts           
           Liverpool           v           Sunderland      3 pts               
           Manchester United   v           Liverpool         0 pt           
           Liverpool           v           Arsenal               1 pt

10 pts
We're not gettin 9 out of Leicester, Stoke and Sunderland. Maybe 6.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #297 on: November 27, 2014, 01:01:52 pm »
                        Liverpool           v           Stoke City          3 pts           
           Leicester City       v           Liverpool          3pts           
           Liverpool           v           Sunderland      3 pts               
           Manchester United   v           Liverpool         0 pt           
           Liverpool           v           Arsenal               1 pt

10 pts

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #298 on: November 27, 2014, 01:05:35 pm »
The answer should always be 15.

Correct, at least from the teams point of view.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #299 on: November 27, 2014, 01:08:44 pm »
We're not gettin 9 out of Leicester, Stoke and Sunderland. Maybe 6.

It shouldn't be any less than 7. I think it will be though. But we should not be losing to any of those three.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #300 on: November 27, 2014, 01:11:56 pm »
It shouldn't be any less than 7. I think it will be though. But we should not be losing to any of those three.

Should be getting 9. For all the excuses about poor signings, time to "bed in" etc, the players we have are clearly good enough to win those.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #301 on: November 27, 2014, 01:24:03 pm »
Stoke - 3
Leicester - 1
Sunderland - 3
United - 1
Arsenal - 1

9

I would be content with that at this current moment in time. If we can avoid a loss for a while then I think the performances will get better and better and we'll build our confidence back up
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #302 on: November 27, 2014, 05:10:52 pm »
Depressing that  :-\

Uh, yeah it is...  Now let's go out and bag all 15 points in the next 5!     

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #303 on: November 28, 2014, 11:35:11 am »
If we could win the 3 games in this week it will be massive.A man can dream.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #304 on: November 28, 2014, 11:45:53 am »
Crystal Palace (A) 0 (just played)
Stoke  (H) 1 :no
Leicester (A) 0 :o
Sunderland (H) 3 :D
Man Utd (A) 0 :butt

If we lose against Leicester, we will get a new manager bounce after that

Don't want the manager sacked at all, just another 5 year project then, but the outpouring of shite if we lose to Leicester will be biblical
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #305 on: November 29, 2014, 06:53:12 pm »
If we could win the 3 games in this week it will be massive.A man can dream.

First game won.I hope we can do this.It will be vital for our season.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #306 on: November 29, 2014, 10:04:25 pm »
The answer should always be 15.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #307 on: November 29, 2014, 10:22:12 pm »
One game at a time mods.
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #308 on: November 29, 2014, 10:32:51 pm »
One game at a time mods.
Not in this thread
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« Reply #309 on: November 29, 2014, 10:34:30 pm »
The answer should always be 15.
so you wouldn't be happy with 13 then?
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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #310 on: November 30, 2014, 12:42:52 pm »
so you wouldn't be happy with 13 then?

13 points is essential and quite frankly the minimum we need from the next 5.

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Re: How many points would you expect in the next 5 league games - 2014/15 edition
« Reply #311 on: November 30, 2014, 01:16:42 pm »
Brendan's one fifth of the way to proving me wrong.

Let's do it again and outperform a subtract-two-goals predicted 2-1 loss at Leicester City (Norwich City last season)

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                        Liverpool           v           Stoke City          3 pts           
           Leicester City       v           Liverpool          3pts           
           Liverpool           v           Sunderland      3 pts               
           Manchester United   v           Liverpool         0 pt           
           Liverpool           v           Arsenal               1 pt

10 pts

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Bring on Sunderland

We'll need to beat Sunderland. And since we've lost to so many of the 'lesser' sides, we'll need at least 3 points from the games vs Utd and Arsenal. Get that and we'd almost be on track for a CL spot.

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2/5 of the way to disproving my minus-two-goals-from-last-season theory.

Well, it worked last time, so here goes...

Brendan, prove me wrong again and outperform my predicted 0-1 loss to Sunderland!
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2/5 of the way to disproving my minus-two-goals-from-last-season theory.

Well, it worked last time, so here goes...

Brendan, prove me wrong again and outperform my predicted 0-1 loss to Sunderland!

You started betting on your theory. Didn't you mate? ;)
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A lot of people mentioned 5 or less than 5 points in the next 5 games  ;D
Thankfully, we are past it. If we can win against Sunderland and avoid defeat against both United and Arsenal, while beating Basel in between, we will certainly be back. And it will bring us one step closer to Sturridge's return and potential reinforcement(s) in January.

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You started betting on your theory. Didn't you mate? ;)

Hahaha, no I didn't, but I am superstitious :D 

For example, I have noticed that we inevitably lose after I wear the team shirt out in public, so I'm never doing that again!

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Sunderland - 3 points
Man Utd - 0 points
Arsenal - 1 point
Burnley - 3 points
Swansea - 3 points

10 points from the next 5 would be ok, anything extra from Man Utd & Arsenal would be fantastic.
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We need to average slightly over 2 points per game the rest of the way to get to 70 points which might be good enough for top 4.  Anything less and I think we will be out of CL next year.