Author Topic: Suarez gets it spot on (Read 32653 times)

Gnurglan · « **Reply #40 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:25:38 pm »

Enjoyed reading that. Just the kind of reaction I like. He can have the entire world against him, but still won't hide. He will even grow stronger. He will improve.

gorgepir · « **Reply #41 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:26:01 pm »

Quote from: Packalacky on May 25, 2012, 04:23:46 pm

Why bring this up again? Seriously what is the point?

To clear his name? He was found guilty of using racial language, we don't agree with it but that's how it is. Liverpool's name has been taken through the mud for the last year, all the way around the world, do we really want it to continue? Our reputation is more important than Suarez and I'm afraid this is doing more damage to the club than he is worth to us.

BS. He was found "probably" guilty. Why do you make up accusations? Don't misquote the ruling.

redjohnnw · « **Reply #42 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:28:29 pm »

Perhaps the Guardian should have let it lie. If they ask a question he will no doubt reply and with no club PR - we are a bit rudderless at the moment, everyones been sacked and the new ones aren't in place yet) you can't blame him for telling the truth. I wonder if this was part of a longer interview and they chose to highlight this one angle?

B0151? · « **Reply #43 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:29:56 pm »

Some clueless people here honestly.

He's been branded as a racist after basically no evidence at all. Would you want to keep quiet about something you feel so strongly about? This lad has been branded as a fucking racist and you want him to bend over and just take it. Clueless.

The reputation of himself certainly does come over his club, he can leave Liverpool but the stain of 'racist' is a permanent taint on him.

zjim · « **Reply #44 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:31:15 pm »

Yes its good that he's defending himself and showing how the system was flawed, but at the same time bringing it up again will only bring us more drama that we dont need. The media doesnt care about the facts, they dont care that Suarez is past the incident, and they dont care about the lack of evidence. What the media cares about is that the FA found Suarez guilty, because of this they're just gonna copy and paste random headlines saying that the racist is still trying to defend himself. Then in turn everybody with a newspaper and internet access will only read these headlines and will feel justified in calling suarez a racist again. great.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #45 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:32:09 pm »

Quote from: Packalacky on May 25, 2012, 04:23:46 pm

Why bring this up again? Seriously what is the point?

To clear his name? He was found guilty of using racial language, we don't agree with it but that's how it is. Liverpool's name has been taken through the mud for the last year, all the way around the world, do we really want it to continue? Our reputation is more important than Suarez and I'm afraid this is doing more damage to the club than he is worth to us.

When you say why bring this up, who exactly are you referring to ?

Hazell · « **Reply #46 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:34:47 pm »

Luis has got it spot on.

RedHopper · « **Reply #47 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:36:07 pm »

Quote from: Runehammer on May 25, 2012, 04:09:21 pm

The PFA owed Suarez impartial support and the FA owed him a fair hearing, neither happened so he's more than entitled to speak freely IMHO. He's been badly let down by the powers that be in this country for the sake of political (football politics that is) expediency to score points against Blatter.

I don't care about that. what's done is done. His responsibility is to liverpool football club, and they have said that it is over. he can talk about it when he retires, or when he is at another club, but he's a professional footballer, and he has a duty to keep his mouth shut, so we can all move on. Nothing he says is going to change anyone's mind. There's no point. it just makes us look bad to keep this going.

We might love Luis for what he does on the pitch, but he has a duty to act in the interests of the club, and he's not doing that. Instead of cheering him on, we should be calling him on it. Are we primarily liverpool fans, or luis suarez fans?

For instance, I wasn't very impressed with the whole handshake business either. The club wanted him to shake evra's hand so everyone could move on, he told the manager he was going to shake his hand, and having done that, he should have tried to force evra to shake his hand. Instead it didn't happen, and king kenny was made look very bad in an interview, and it only made the situation worse. Whatever about the rights and wrongs, his duty as a professional, and as an employee of liverpool football club was to grab evra's hand. He allowed a bad situation to happen.

I will be deeply unimpressed with him if he's trying to engineer a move after all of the support he has received. He owes us the fans who have shown him nothing but unconditional love, and the club who pay him so handsomely and supported him to the hilt.

Brook · « **Reply #48 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:37:53 pm »

spot on.

He felt wronged and he has every right to speak out to defend himself and his family.
And especially if he did so in a respectful and non-controversial way

plasterered · « **Reply #49 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:38:11 pm »

The press will jump on this again in anti suarez manner showing them up for what they are and proving this statement by Luis. I hate the media in this country we are so tied up and led on by them. I aint even bought a paper since the EVRA/MUFC LIE. bin em

Every fan in this country knows the FA are a bunch of bigot dinosaur starch collars trying to act like government, just everyone took their stance because it was anti liverpool this time around

masterbaker · « **Reply #50 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:39:07 pm »

he was stitched up so fuck the FA

Zlen · « **Reply #51 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:41:14 pm »

Love Luis hate FA.

Yabazza · « **Reply #52 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:46:55 pm »

Quote from: Packalacky on May 25, 2012, 04:23:46 pm

Why bring this up again? Seriously what is the point?

Quote from: RedMarko on May 25, 2012, 03:58:50 pm

2) If asked the question better to address it than be seen to evade it. I'm sure he did not ring Russia Today to offer his thoughts

He answered it directly without any controversial remarks that I can see.

Fair dues to him.

RedHopper · « **Reply #53 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:47:46 pm »

Quote from: RedMarko on May 25, 2012, 03:58:50 pm

1) Nothing he has said brings the game into disrepute
2) If asked the question better to address it than be seen to evade it. I'm sure he did not ring Russia Today to offer his thoughts

He answered it directly without any controversial remarks that I can see.

Fair dues to him.

1. ah come on, he questions the partiality of the committee, and says it was almost as though they had to get a liverpool player. You might agree with him, but it's not us that is in charge of charging people. Accusing the FA's system of 'justice' of being biased against you is as quick a way to get charged as any.

2. a footballer can make it very clear to the interviewer that certain things are off topics. "I don't want to talk about the past, I only want to focus on my future at Liverpool" would have been a much better answer. If a footballer doesn't want to talk about something, they don't talk about it.

He has to understand, that everyone's mind is already made up. Those who believe him believe him. Those who don't believe him, don't. It's in the interests of everyone that this is forgotten about as quickly as possible. It's the policy of the club, and whatever he believes, he should follow it.

And you might not think that there are no controversial remarks in there, but I'm sure that there are plenty of others that would disagree with you.

JongWK · « **Reply #54 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:49:34 pm »

Quote from: Packalacky on May 25, 2012, 04:23:46 pm

Why bring this up again? Seriously what is the point?

To clear his name? He was found guilty of using racial language, we don't agree with it but that's how it is. Liverpool's name has been taken through the mud for the last year, all the way around the world, do we really want it to continue? Our reputation is more important than Suarez and I'm afraid this is doing more damage to the club than he is worth to us.

Bullshit.

Where has its name been dragged into the mud?

England? That country where they are already biased against LFC?
France? Where they know Evra is a piece of shit?
Western Europe? Where they admire Suarez while openly mocking British media and the FA?
South America? Where people know more about Uruguay than the British media will ever care to know?
The USA? Where there is a large Latin American community? (see South America above)
FIFA? Where Blatter is about to take away the British privileged VP seat?

Pfft.

edge · « **Reply #55 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:50:24 pm »

Good response. Fully understand that he wants to say what has probably been eating at him since january. And he said it well.

YNWA Luis.

Cid · « **Reply #56 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:50:56 pm »

Still angers me how fucked the whole situation was, and I'm sorry but Suarez did not come out tainted. Patrice Evra and the FA are the ones who should be ashamed, they're the ones who should hate to shine a light on their broken, corrupt and biased system.

Fuck the FA, Fuck Evra and Fuck any and all who would cast judgement on a man based on a newspaper headline. I've had long discussions with people over Suarez, from friends to family members to people I barely know, and they are ALWAYS under the impression he admitted to it, or it must have been true because he was found guilty, or the papers wouldn't be allowed to print outright lies.

This shitstorm taught me a lot about LFC and Liverpool itself. We face a fight each and every day just to be treated fairly, to be treated equally, and a lot of people in this hellhole of a country love nothing more than bringing the boot down at every opportunity.

dorsetgill · « **Reply #57 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:51:09 pm »

Ynwa Luis

JongWK · « **Reply #58 on:** May 25, 2012, 04:57:00 pm »

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Nut/ella · « **Reply #59 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:00:09 pm »

I hope he repays the faith we've shown in him with more years of service.

.....and as for the sister shagging lurkers from redcafe, hey what's up?

Mark_kopite90 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:01:54 pm »

Can't see why he brought it up really, but then again he was probly asked.
But well said Luis, never thought you were guilty for one second. Wether the truth will really ever come out who knows, probly won't. But what goes around comes around.

Yabazza · « **Reply #61 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:02:07 pm »

One would be hard pressed to find a bigger kunt in the league than Patrice Evra.

Quote from: to get rid of the One. on May 25, 2012, 05:00:09 pm

.....and as for the sister shagging lurkers from redcafe, hey what's up?

Yea I can definitely smell a septic wum or two

Virna · « **Reply #62 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:05:51 pm »

If he really was guilty, he had stayed quiet, but he's not.
I think it's healthy for him and for the club he can speak calmly of an issue that has frustrated him for so long.
Also if he has been asked about it and he doesn't respond, then the media will say that he "has something to hide" and bla bla.

boots · « **Reply #63 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:06:29 pm »

Quote from: RedHopper on May 25, 2012, 04:36:07 pm

I don't care about that. what's done is done. His responsibility is to liverpool football club, and they have said that it is over. he can talk about it when he retires, or when he is at another club, but he's a professional footballer, and he has a duty to keep his mouth shut, so we can all move on. Nothing he says is going to change anyone's mind. There's no point. it just makes us look bad to keep this going.

We might love Luis for what he does on the pitch, but he has a duty to act in the interests of the club, and he's not doing that. Instead of cheering him on, we should be calling him on it. Are we primarily liverpool fans, or luis suarez fans?

For instance, I wasn't very impressed with the whole handshake business either. The club wanted him to shake evra's hand so everyone could move on, he told the manager he was going to shake his hand, and having done that, he should have tried to force evra to shake his hand. Instead it didn't happen, and king kenny was made look very bad in an interview, and it only made the situation worse. Whatever about the rights and wrongs, his duty as a professional, and as an employee of liverpool football club was to grab evra's hand. He allowed a bad situation to happen.

I will be deeply unimpressed with him if he's trying to engineer a move after all of the support he has received. He owes us the fans who have shown him nothing but unconditional love, and the club who pay him so handsomely and supported him to the hilt.

Thats utter bollocks. If you get branded a racist without evidence would you keep your gob shut? No. His responsibility is to himself and his family first and LFC second. He has a right to self defence and the right of free speech to defend himself.

Personally I'd have been happier if he twatted Evra rather than just refused the handshake. I dont give two hoots what anyone thinks of LFC who doesnt support the club. Fuck them and the FA. Roll over and let fergie rub yer belly.

mokum11 · « **Reply #64 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:07:42 pm »

You can't not take FA seriously, their whole investigation is based on facts without prove if they are true.
Next to that I can remember a lad named Terry against QPR who, did the same where Suarez has been accused off.
But where is Terry's punishment and why wait after the euros to make an statement about the research.
It has to do that Terry is an Englishman and Suarez not.

Mark_kopite90 · « **Reply #65 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:07:44 pm »

Quote from: to get rid of the One. on May 25, 2012, 05:00:09 pm

.....and as for the sister shagging lurkers from redcafe, hey what's up?

The sister fuckers from Salford that pretend to be from Manchester, but really they are cockney.

chromed · « **Reply #66 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:07:59 pm »

fair play luis lad

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #67 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:10:40 pm »

Quote from: Packalacky on May 25, 2012, 04:23:46 pm

Why bring this up again? Seriously what is the point?

To clear his name? He was found guilty of using racial language, we don't agree with it but that's how it is. Liverpool's name has been taken through the mud for the last year, all the way around the world, do we really want it to continue? Our reputation is more important than Suarez and I'm afraid this is doing more damage to the club than he is worth to us.

"Found guilty" suggests that there was evidence. There wasn't. Only one mans word against another. "Found guilty" Suggests that he was tried in a fair and just manner. He wasn't. Three men with various agendas decided something not supported by a scrap of evidence. "Found guilty" suggests that a process was followed. It wasn't. They just locked themselves away, coached their only witness and then used that coaching to unfairly decide a load of shite.

Redshadow · « **Reply #68 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:12:28 pm »

He wants to stand up because he strongly belived that he was wronged by FA and media. How do you think he wants his daighter to see him someday? A racist? Or a coward? As far as I am concerned he should speak about it at all time until he get an apology from FA. He'zsnot going to get it you say? Good, make a fussabout it until at least you know your daughter understand that you are not what they say you arel Good for you, Luiz. Stand up foor yourself while others may crumble under it.
If FSG think it is not good, they should sell

LFC.

bigbonedrawky · « **Reply #69 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:14:43 pm »

Quote from: RedHopper on May 25, 2012, 04:36:07 pm

I don't care about that. what's done is done. His responsibility is to liverpool football club, and they have said that it is over. he can talk about it when he retires, or when he is at another club, but he's a professional footballer, and he has a duty to keep his mouth shut, so we can all move on. Nothing he says is going to change anyone's mind. There's no point. it just makes us look bad to keep this going.

We might love Luis for what he does on the pitch, but he has a duty to act in the interests of the club, and he's not doing that. Instead of cheering him on, we should be calling him on it. Are we primarily liverpool fans, or luis suarez fans?

For instance, I wasn't very impressed with the whole handshake business either. The club wanted him to shake evra's hand so everyone could move on, he told the manager he was going to shake his hand, and having done that, he should have tried to force evra to shake his hand. Instead it didn't happen, and king kenny was made look very bad in an interview, and it only made the situation worse. Whatever about the rights and wrongs, his duty as a professional, and as an employee of liverpool football club was to grab evra's hand. He allowed a bad situation to happen.

I will be deeply unimpressed with him if he's trying to engineer a move after all of the support he has received. He owes us the fans who have shown him nothing but unconditional love, and the club who pay him so handsomely and supported him to the hilt.

If you dont care about that then why are you here posting exclusively on this topic ?
You really expect him to grab someone's hand to force a handshake ? (tecnically assault)
This unconditional love you talk about is severly lacking in your ONLY post on the subject so how does he owe you anything?
Why are you here ?

Gods_Left_Boot · « **Reply #70 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:15:03 pm »

Well in, Luisito!

Virna · « **Reply #71 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:19:12 pm »

Quote from: RedHopper on May 25, 2012, 04:36:07 pm

I don't care about that. what's done is done. His responsibility is to liverpool football club, and they have said that it is over. he can talk about it when he retires, or when he is at another club, but he's a professional footballer, and he has a duty to keep his mouth shut, so we can all move on. Nothing he says is going to change anyone's mind. There's no point. it just makes us look bad to keep this going.

He has been accused of racism, himself, not the club.
He is a man who can talk about what he wants when he wants.

And besides that, I think it's good for the club he talks about it without having to hide anything, freely.

Saul Goodman · « **Reply #72 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:26:50 pm »

Starts against Russia in 15 minutes for anyone interested.

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #73 on:** May 25, 2012, 05:29:47 pm »

He is right. Hasn't said much wrong. Of course the less belligerent would say that he probably shouldn't have restarted this issue and while I tend to agree with that view point, I don't think Suarez is wrong here.