Topic: Suarez gets it spot on

[Uruguayan36]

You are great Luisito...thanks for scoring against Russia.

[Prelude no.5]

Really? I suppose you'd be quite content for some bloke to defame you, have his lies believed and you branded a racist across the world's media? Luis has the balls not to let this disgusting attempt to destroy his character to simply fester. I fully support his right to fight this injustice as long as he wants to. It's to the Club's credit that they were prepared to support his innocence until FSG panicked and forced those sickly 'apologies'. I wonder how Henry and Wener would have reacted if they were the victims of hidious lies? Get their fat wallets out and fight it through the courts probably. YNWA Luis.

I think he meant that he can't believe that there are liverpool fans still contesting whether he's guilty or not.

[scouse29]

I have to be honest and question why he has decided by pass comment on this after all this time.

[Lolo]

It's not "over" at all

Stop saying that. Ask him. It's not over for him. He's still getting thousands of people calling him racist.

Luis Suarez 100%, I'll support him even after he's left the club. He's been well and truly fcked by a mixture of bad media handling and a witch-hunt.

Well said sir. My thoughts entirely.

[HighSix]

The last thing FSG want brought up.

[Hij]

I have to be honest and question why he has decided by pass comment on this after all this time.

he was asked a question

Evra reopened the race row last week when he said building up to the handshake was the biggest moment of his life hahshaha

[Matt8Pie]

I wonder if Kenny will be talking about his disagreements with the whole thing which he alluded to when it happened now that he's unemployed. He said there was more to the story if I remember rightly and I'd love to hear what he has to say on it.

I'm still behind Suarez 100%.

The last thing FSG want brought up.

Could not give a fuck what they want, unless it's Rafa or Villas Boas.

[JongWK]

I have to be honest and question why he has decided by pass comment on this after all this time.

He said long ago that he'd talk about this only after the season was over, because LFC asked him (and Kenny) to take a "no comment" stance while the league was in play.

[scouse29]

he was asked a question

Evra reopened the race row last week when he said building up to the handshake was the biggest moment of his life hahshaha

That's ok then.  What is wrong with declining to comment?

[Hij]

That's ok then.  What is wrong with declining to comment?

I'm not arsed to be honest mate. It was an interview for a non english newspaper where perhaps he wanted to put his side of the story across to his fellow nationals . Im just saying he didn't just ring up the guardian.

[Nick110581]

Fucking spot on Luis.

Was defending him in the pub earlier.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

No one is arguing about that. The point is this:

Suárez re-opens Evra race row

That's the how the Guardian is leading with the story, not even bothering to look what the normal rags are saying. Do we want to go into next season with this mess still hanging over us? Is it beneficial somehow to Liverpool FC? Is it going to help us at the moment when we are getting a new manager in and rebuilding the back room staff?

The reopening of this issue is the last thing that we need to worry about right now.

I think Suarez has every right to feel aggrieved after the treatment by the Kangaroo court he was subjected to.

I also think he's been remarkably restrained in his responses. I also think that it's a wonder no journalists got decked by fans while the whole thing was going on. Great restraint by everyone against overt Xenophobia, outright bigotry and vastly unfair treatment of the player, the manager, the club and the fans.

It does amuse me that quite a few people are sucking up to those Journalists that disgraced themselves in this affair. I've seen a few "Oh. Him. He's a good lad him." and carrying on as if nothing had happened. Like they can say all that shite and we'd somehow all forget about it. I'm as fucking furious today about some of the shite the shithouse cowards in the Times, Sky, the Mirror, the Guardian and others came out with. Fucking bastards all and it's pretty disgraceful that some of our goldfish like fans have already take a turn around their little bowls and forgotten about it all already. Sickening.

[Matt8Pie]

I think Suarez has every right to feel aggrieved after the treatment by the Kangaroo court he was subjected to.

I also think he's been remarkably restrained in his responses. I also think that it's a wonder no journalists got decked by fans while the whole thing was going on. Great restraint by everyone against overt Xenophobia, outright bigotry and vastly unfair treatment of the player, the manager, the club and the fans.

It does amuse me that quite a few people are sucking up to those Journalists that disgraced themselves in this affair. I've seen a few "Oh. Him. He's a good lad him." and carrying on as if nothing had happened. Like they can say all that shite and we'd somehow all forget about it. I'm as fucking furious today about some of the shite the shithouse cowards in the Times, Sky, the Mirror, the Guardian and others came out with. Fucking bastards all and it's pretty disgraceful that some of our goldfish like fans have already take a turn around their little bowls and forgotten about it all already. Sickening.

Is right (for once ) Andy.

[farawayred]

Is right (for once ) Andy.

Why wouldn't the club take it to the CAS or take legal action for damages, I'd never know...

[Nick110581]

Why wouldn't the club take it to the CAS or take legal action for damages, I'd never know...

The image of the Club.

Suarez was a scapegoat.

[farawayred]

The image of the Club.

Suarez was a scapegoat.

And the club wasn't dragged through the mud?

[Nick110581]

And the club wasn't dragged through the mud?

It was but the media twisted it all.

If Ferguson wore a t shirt it would not have been dealt with in the same way.

[Matt8Pie]

Why wouldn't the club take it to the CAS or take legal action for damages, I'd never know...

You and me both.

[greeny01]

Nothing wrong with his comments at all in my opinion, was asked a question and gave an honest and restrained answer.  He was hung out to dry by the media and the fa and it leaves a very bitter taste, which you can't expect him to forget. Gone up in my estimation for this, good lad Luis...YNWA

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Why wouldn't the club take it to the CAS or take legal action for damages, I'd never know...

When I read about it - you can get ejected from your league and banned for competing in any Football competition ever again if you legally challenge your FA.

[greeny01]

When I read about it - you can get ejected from your league and banned for competing in any Football competition ever again if you legally challenge your FA.

And that there is what is wrong with the FA...Put themselves above the law...Our way, or no way...Stinks to high heaven

[farawayred]

When I read about it - you can get ejected from your league and banned for competing in any Football competition ever again if you legally challenge your FA.

I think that's scaremongering, Andy. There are many cases in which domestic FAs decisions have been overturned and, moreover, both FIFA and UEFA recognize the decisions of the CAS. Both are above the English FA in the hierarchy.

[Shaun101]

Was right behind him then and I'm right behind him now.

A complete stitch up.

This x 10

[Acaustiq]

Why wouldn't the club take it to the CAS or take legal action for damages, I'd never know...

1. You can only go to CAS if both parties agree.

2. Football clubs and players can't sue the FA, they're extra judicial, a state within a state.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I think that's scaremongering, Andy. There are many cases in which domestic FAs decisions have been overturned and, moreover, both FIFA and UEFA recognize the decisions of the CAS. Both are above the English FA in the hierarchy.

Nope I definately read about it.

I'm talking about legal challenges (Civil Actions) - not appealing decisions within their frameworks.

[RedMarko]

1. ah come on, he questions the partiality of the committee, and says it was almost as though they had to get a liverpool player. You might agree with him, but it's not us that is in charge of charging people. Accusing the FA's system of 'justice' of being biased against you is as quick a way to get charged as any.

2. a footballer can make it very clear to the interviewer that certain things are off topics. "I don't want to talk about the past, I only want to focus on my future at Liverpool" would have been a much better answer. If a footballer doesn't want to talk about something, they don't talk about it.

He has to understand, that everyone's mind is already made up. Those who believe him believe him. Those who don't believe him, don't. It's in the interests of everyone that this is forgotten about as quickly as possible.  It's the policy of the club, and whatever he believes, he should follow it.

And you might not think that there are no controversial remarks in there, but I'm sure that there are plenty of others that would disagree with you.

Not going to argue with you mate (plenty on here doing that already ), but I prefer a player to speak his mind than keep quiet out of fear of consequences from the FA. As for the idea he's questioning the system - if he and others don't it won't be changed.

The FA would be mad to do anything about an interview off in Russia.

If Suarez wants to talk about what he feels is an injustice I'll loan him a PA system.

I'm also not sure that an injustice should be forgotten about/swept under the carpet. Personal choice is to shout about it to try and ensure it doesn't happen again!

[gorgepir]

I wonder were the outrage is for Messi using the same word and saying it was due to the cultural differences in South America?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Not going to argue with you mate (plenty on here doing that already ), but I prefer a player to speak his mind than keep quiet out of fear of consequences from the FA. As for the idea he's questioning the system - if he and others don't it won't be changed.

The FA would be mad to do anything about an interview off in Russia.

If Suarez wants to talk about what he feels is an injustice I'll loan him a PA system.

I'm also not sure that an injustice should be forgotten about/swept under the carpet. Personal choice is to shout about it to try and ensure it doesn't happen again!

Totally agree. That decision should be haunting the FA in 100 years time. It was a fucking disgrace when it was made. It's a disgrace now and it'll be a fucking disgrace in years to come. They showed themselves up for exactly what they are.

[farawayred]

Nope I definately read about it.

I'm talking about legal challenges (Civil Actions) - not appealing decisions within their frameworks.

Ah, thanks. The civil actions may lead to that, it makes sense.

1. You can only go to CAS if both parties agree.

This, as I understand it, is a general misconception. The CAS has two functions - mediation and arbitration. ANY individual or representative that's related to sports can refer a case to the CAS. Then they can intervene with mediation. A written agreement between the two parties is only necessary when the matter goes for arbitration (e.g., to court).

But it's irrelevant now anyway, because we accepted the FA's decision. I was just implying that there were other alternatives.

[Red Beret]

Wonder if FSG will tell Martinez to sell him?

[Channo]

If Suarez personally took the FA to CAS, surely there could be no repurcussions for the club?

[Lush is the best medicine...]

If Suarez personally took the FA to CAS, surely there could be no repurcussions for the club?

not officially

[RedSoc]

I wonder if Kenny will be talking about his disagreements with the whole thing which he alluded to when it happened now that he's unemployed. He said there was more to the story if I remember rightly and I'd love to hear what he has to say on it.

I'm still behind Suarez 100%.

Could not give a fuck what they want, unless it's Rafa or Villas Boas.

Bang on. Where were these oiks when the whole thing blew up?

[Circa1892]

Wonder if FSG will tell Martinez to sell him?

It'd be commercial suicide.

Also I hate the fact people seem to be portraying Martinez as a walkover for FSG. He's young and hasn't managed a huge club - doesn't mean he's a sycophantic Hodgsonite.

[JohnHobbes]

Not going to argue with you mate (plenty on here doing that already ), but I prefer a player to speak his mind than keep quiet out of fear of consequences from the FA. As for the idea he's questioning the system - if he and others don't it won't be changed.

The FA would be mad to do anything about an interview off in Russia.

If Suarez wants to talk about what he feels is an injustice I'll loan him a PA system.

I'm also not sure that an injustice should be forgotten about/swept under the carpet. Personal choice is to shout about it to try and ensure it doesn't happen again!

Pretty sure Keane got a ban for comments in his book (seem to recall for deliberately going after someone as a revenge for a previous game). So there is a precedent there which I'm sure the FA will use.

I can see Suarez is annoyed as he considers himself not guilty but it's a risky strategy to bring this up again. First the FA might do something, secondly FSG might do something and thirdly it's not going to stop opposition fans from chanting at it, far from it.

[Carolina Red]

I think Suarez was railroaded. I believe him, and having spent a good amount of time in Argentina and Uruguay, I am familiar with the linguistic twists at issue. What happened to him was totally unfair. Unfortunately, life is not fair.

The best thing Suarez can do to rehabilitate his reputation on this issue:

1) when asked, say "I think it was a big misunderstanding, but I want to put it behind me and move forward. Next question."

2) do some volunteer work for one of the five zillion anti-racism groups out there.

3) score shitloads of spectacular goals and lead Liverpool back up table 

[CRAZY HORSE EMLYN]

I think Suarez was railroaded. I believe him, and having spent a good amount of time in Argentina and Uruguay, I am familiar with the linguistic twists at issue. What happened to him was totally unfair. Unfortunately, life is not fair.

The best thing Suarez can do to rehabilitate his reputation on this issue:

1) when asked, say "I think it was a big misunderstanding, but I want to put it behind me and move forward. Next question."

2) do some volunteer work for one of the five zillion anti-racism groups out there.

3) score shitloads of spectacular goals and lead Liverpool back up table 

I'm going to do that THIS thing. THIS.

[lucas65]

I'm made up he has spoken out and put it so calmly. I am sick to the back teeth of putting people straight who say "but he was proved to be a racist". These are people who are from all walks of life and have just seen press reports so take it as gospel. He is tarnished now and nothing will change that now. I just wish it had or still could go to court. Evra is a proven liar (more than once) but this wasn't allowed to be brought up. I will still keep defending Suarez as I firmly believe he is not a racist and he should have the right to defend himself.

[peelyon]

I think Suarez was railroaded. I believe him, and having spent a good amount of time in Argentina and Uruguay, I am familiar with the linguistic twists at issue. What happened to him was totally unfair. Unfortunately, life is not fair.

The best thing Suarez can do to rehabilitate his reputation on this issue:

1) when asked, say "I think it was a big misunderstanding, but I want to put it behind me and move forward. Next question."

2) do some volunteer work for one of the five zillion anti-racism groups out there.

3) score shitloads of spectacular goals and lead Liverpool back up table 

1 and 3 yes, 2 no.  He has already done plenty of work BEFORE the whole Evra issue.  He shouldnt need to justify himself at ALL.  The fact that it would all backfire in his face and be twisted by the media is another thing.  Pointless pretending to pander to anyone anyway.  He has already said he is calm about the whole thing.

[Il Capitano]

Due to the FA's decision, the media's vilification of Suarez, and the reaction of the useful idiots that seem to inhabit every other ground in England, I have stopped supporting England permanently, don't tune into Sky, don't read newspapers, don't watch the news, and no longer have any respect for any other club in the league. I also lost a HUGE amount of respect for my so-called mates over this, the fucking turncoats.

Fuck the FA, fuck the fucking liar Evra, fuck Ferguson the fucking politician, fuck Manchester United, fuck the league, and fuck the media.