Topic: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer

[Anthony Le Pongolle]

I can't help but think everyone is going a little over the top about this Bilbao side. Yes they were good and they have some very promising players but they are still 30 points off the top spot in the league! In case some of you forgot, Liverpool are actually pretty good in cup competitions as well......they probably suffer from the same problems as us.

Just a reminder:

Arsenal A 0-2
Chelsea A 1-2
Chelsea A 0-2
Man City A 0-1
Man United H 2-1

We've played some great football ourselves this season. On our day we can beat anyone in the league. Just because Bilbao beat United in a one off game doesn't make their squad far superior to ours........although admittedly I wouldn't mind stealing one or two of their players!

[vivabobbygraham]

he would have moved to us this summer mate. I'd put all my money on it. In jan maybe not because there was talk of madrid etc

Not a chance mate. If he goes anywhere it will be Italy then Madrid. Not allowed to go direct, apparently. Ask his Basque buddy Xabi.

[muyuu]

Athletic have a good shot at top-4. Can't see Levante, Sevilla or At. Madrid keeping up with them for the rest of the season. They have improved steadily since the beginning of the season. 3-4 are for Valencia/Bilbao in any order IMO.

[DanA]

Why would a young up and coming striker want to come to Liverpool?

Money?
Pft.....they'll only double your income. At least 8 other clubs in Europe can match that.

Fame?
Pft....When has Liverpool ever made a player famous?

Trophies?
Pft....haven't won anything for 4 weeks have they?

Raise your profile to get international games?
Pft...when was the last time Liverpool had a player in an internationals, how many if their players go to the world cup?

I see absoluutely no reason for a player to join Liverpool.....none.

[Colin]

Non English players are simply far more skillful. 

Solution - buy some good foreign talent.

[maher]

Speak for yourself.

Suggesting that just because some morons couldn't see how good Lucas could be is a reason why Henderson's rank average performances will herald bigger things is more than a touch lazy.

you maybe got me wrong
mate i was always supporting Lucas and i still

[fefs]

That's a wicked case of disco jaw if ever I saw it

[graaf_x]

I can't help but think everyone is going a little over the top about this Bilbao side. Yes they were good and they have some very promising players but they are still 30 points off the top spot in the league!

To be fair, they have Real at the top with 22 wins 1 draw and 2 losses.

[vivabobbygraham]

Speak for yourself.

Suggesting that just because some morons couldn't see how good Lucas could be is a reason why Henderson's rank average performances will herald bigger things is more than a touch lazy.

But...but...that's what they all say about Lucas now. Alan Kennedy said to me there must have been 250, 000 Liverpool fans in Park Des Princes the day he got the winner....and I was there.

[gregorio]

I can't help but think everyone is going a little over the top about this Bilbao side. Yes they were good and they have some very promising players but they are still 30 points off the top spot in the league! In case some of you forgot, Liverpool are actually pretty good in cup competitions as well......they probably suffer from the same problems as us.

Just a reminder:

Arsenal A 0-2
Chelsea A 1-2
Chelsea A 0-2
Man City A 0-1
Man United H 2-1

We've played some great football ourselves this season. On our day we can beat anyone in the league. Just because Bilbao beat United in a one off game doesn't make their squad far superior to ours........although admittedly I wouldn't mind stealing one or two of their players!

Have you noticed how many points we're off City?

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The reason this Athletic team is to be so admired is because they have been flirting with relegation for the last few seasons but  have transformed their play. If we were to make such a huge improvement we would be challenging for the title

[Juan Loco]

You've got to be pretty special to win 3-2 at Old Trafford. Look at Blackburn.

[Quintet]

Watching Barca last night and Bilboa tonight, I firmly believe having variety in your team these days just isn't as good as having everyone on the same wavelength and all playing the same type of football. I don't think the ''big and little man'' works anymore. Llorente whilst big can play football and has great movement too. We have henderson and say suarez who like pass and move and then we have downing and carroll who prefer a more direct route. I just think maybe this is where we are going wrong.

[vivabobbygraham]

That's a wicked case of disco jaw if ever I saw it

[gregorio]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tables

BBC have a swanky new 'last 10 games' section on their league tables. When you see that we have a worse record in the last 10 compared to every club down to Villa in 15th then you start to wonder if 1 or 2 adjustments will be enough. Gotta start getting some 'green' on Saturday!

[Caligula?]

Seems as though the Spanish League isn't just another version of the SPL as most critics will have you believe. Sure, Real Madrid and Barcelona always occupy the first two places but with the budgets they have, the fame that both clubs possess, the unjust allocation of tv rights in Spain, their names in themselves would probably be enough to generate more income than any of the other teams in Spain. Yet the pool of talent in that league is as massive as it's ever been. Take Bilbao for instance. Relegation threatened a few seasons ago, their improvement in the last few years is phenomenal and without a single foreigner in their team tonight went to Old Trafford and played the current champions of England off their own park. With a squad assembled for less money than what we paid for even one player. Ouch.

Anybody who continues to believe that the Premier League is still the best in the world (talent wise) is having a laugh. That's why we'll get nowhere with this 'buying British' policy.

[oovavu]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tables

BBC have a swanky new 'last 10 games' section on their league tables. When you see that we have a worse record in the last 10 compared to every club down to Villa in 15th then you start to wonder if 1 or 2 adjustments will be enough. Gotta start getting some 'green' on Saturday!

Might be better smoking it dude.

[Anthony Le Pongolle]

Have you noticed how many points we're off City?

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The reason this Athletic team is to be so admired is because they have been flirting with relegation for the last few seasons but  have transformed their play. If we were to make such a huge improvement we would be challenging for the title

Exactly, but people are going on as if they're the greatest team in history. 'If only we played football like them'.......'why didn't we buy Llorente, Javi Martinez and Muniain instead of Adam, Henderson and Downing' etc. I'm not saying they're a bad side, far from it....but you could easily look at one of Liverpool's game's in isolation and say 'wow, that team plays some fluid football...I wish we had players like Adam, Henderson and Downing.' The league cup semis or the games against Chelsea for example.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tables

BBC have a swanky new 'last 10 games' section on their league tables. When you see that we have a worse record in the last 10 compared to every club down to Villa in 15th then you start to wonder if 1 or 2 adjustments will be enough. Gotta start getting some 'green' on Saturday!

It will be. One of the reasons we've struggled at times this season is the fact that we made so many alterations to the first team in the summer. We had 4 or 5 new signings who went straight into the team...add on top of that Carroll who had barely played any football and Suarez who was still getting used to English football and that is over half the team. What the side needs now is stability. One, maybe two TOP QUALITY players. There's no point getting squad players now, we've already built the foundation, we just need to build on it.

[Camarero25]

Exactly, but people are going on as if they're the greatest team in history. 'If only we played football like them'.......'why didn't we buy Llorente, Javi Martinez and Muniain instead of Adam, Henderson and Downing' etc. I'm not saying they're a bad side, far from it....but you could easily look at one of Liverpool's game's in isolation and say 'wow, that team plays some fluid football...I wish we had players like Adam, Henderson and Downing.' The league cup semis or the games against Chelsea for example.

Apart from there's quite a lot of people who aren't basing it just on tonights game.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

Football is changing, you can see most teams now try to play at a much higher tempo regardless of formations, etc. We added pace to our team but the players we bought made us play at a much slower tempo. This why we don't score enough goals because we don't play quick enough to create easy chances. Back end of last season we really didn't have any finisher but we played the ball really quick when we got to the opposition box and had lots of movement helping us create lots of tap ins for Maxi and Kuyt.

[soberphobia]

Bilbao played pass and move football and it was beautiful to watch. They weren't lucky and the scoreline flattered United. We have rarely played that sort of fluid football this season and played more of it last season. A player like Martinez who is so composed and can run the game would be an ideal addition to many teams and the chase for him will be on in earnest in the summer and the only surprise is it took so long. I think the same thing will eventually happen to Banega and then people will say i wonder why no-one went for him when he was cheap.

Muniain looked great but he did have a midfield that drew the other side to them and then released him and it was great to see a side like United dismantled. I think they are very well managed and have a few star players but it was more about the system than individual brilliance. Liverpool need to get the mix right of selecting and training players to play the Liverpool way and that cannot happen with 5 in 5 out every year. So i think Comolli is right about 1 or two asdjustments. I think they will be key adjustments though.

[Didi_ram]

Muniain, Soldado, Martinez.

For us,it'll be more like Sinclair,Zaha and McCarthy.Combined 50m.
Not doubting their quality but at some point,the value for money has to come in,and frankly,there is very little of it in England.
Muniain,Soldado and Martinez may cost 70m but they'd win us the league.

[Number 7]

Why would a young up and coming striker want to come to Liverpool?

Money?
Pft.....they'll only double your income. At least 8 other clubs in Europe can match that.

Fame?
Pft....When has Liverpool ever made a player famous?

Trophies?
Pft....haven't won anything for 4 weeks have they?

Raise your profile to get international games?
Pft...when was the last time Liverpool had a player in an internationals, how many if their players go to the world cup?

I see absoluutely no reason for a player to join Liverpool.....none.

Haha. Brilliant that.

[BEAST]

I hope we will do some business before Euros. In ideal world it would be fantastic if we signed, for example, Giroud and paid for him 10 million in June, before he succeeds in Ukraine & Poland and therefore would cost twice the amount. That's what I call good scouting.

lololol.

You think Montpellier is just going to bend over like that and take it up the ass?

Give me 1 fucking reason why Montpellier would sell pre-Euros when they're thinking the exact same thing you're thinking.  Not to mention the fact that they're basically a lock for Champions League - and you expect them to sell early for peanuts?  nah brah.

[BEAST]

For us,it'll be more like Sinclair,Zaha and McCarthy.Combined 50m.
Not doubting their quality but at some point,the value for money has to come in,and frankly,there is very little of it in England.
Muniain,Soldado and Martinez may cost 70m but they'd win us the league.

lol.  Tesco offering buy 2 get 1 free this week?  Can't see those 3 selling for less than 90m.

[Didi_ram]

lol.  Tesco offering buy 2 get 1 free this week?  Can't see those 3 selling for less than 90m.

Well,Whatever.No point discussing their price when we arent getting those/willing to spend that much.

[rossipersempre]

Not a chance mate. If he goes anywhere it will be Italy then Madrid. Not allowed to go direct, apparently. Ask his Basque buddy Xabi.

Xabi and Sociedad adheres to the Basque philosophy as much as you do. If we hadn't had a gentleman's agreement with Madrid over the sale of that Judas Welsh rat, then Xabi would have gone to the Bernabeu in summer 2004.

€35m on Bilbao's table last summer and Llorente would have been Liverpool's no.9. Deny it as impossible all you want if it makes you feel better about our Geordie Plan B.

[Discipline]

Are there any gems on FM12 that are relatively unknown? I'm managing Torino atm, so something realistic please.

[Suarez7Carroll9]

Bilbao were good but Man Utd were abysmal. Tbf, their tactics were spot on and executed perfectly. To say that Bilbao are better than us... Theres only one way to find out... FIGHT!

But seriously, if we had put 40m euros on their table for Llorente last Jan we would have got him. I fully believe that Kenny chose Carroll over Llorente. Maybe Llorente isnt worth that much but he is worth that fee more than Carroll.

Sell Carroll, Maxi, Aurelio, Aquilani, Cole

Buy Giroud, Texeira, Hoilett, Lavezzi, Martinez

[iheartsuarez]

If we have to go english then fine
wilshere, johnson,

[Loo Pan]

But seriously, if we had put 40m euros on their table for Llorente last Jan we would have got him. I fully believe that Kenny chose Carroll over Llorente. Maybe Llorente isnt worth that much but he is worth that fee more than Carroll.

All the reports after last January seemed to indicate that we approached Bilbao about Llorente before moving for Carroll, but were rebuffed.

 
'Representatives from Liverpool arrived in Bilbao and had talks with the leadership of our club. But obviously the club did not want to sell me, so to talk about this any longer makes no sense'.

It was widely reported we had a £30m bid rejected.

[iheartsuarez]

podolski is going to arsenal for only 11 m why didn't we try? absolute steal 

[aurelian]

Should be noted that the Llorente interest was from the part of January with Hodgson.  No evidence whatsoever that Kenny was ever interested in Llorente.

[aurelian]

podolski is going to arsenal for only 11 m why didn't we try?

Because Carroll will become good next year.

Or if not that year, the year after that.

or if not that year, the---

well, you get the idea.

 

[itsgunnabebarnes!]

Who do we think will be sold? Kuyt, Carroll and maxi would be my guess.

[iheartsuarez]

Because Carroll will become good next year.

Or if not that year, the year after that.

or if not that year, the---

well, you get the idea.

 

i have come to stage where I think he has no ability

[iheartsuarez]

Who do we think will be sold? Kuyt, Carroll and maxi would be my guess.

how much could we get for carroll?

[Renato]

Should be noted that the Llorente interest was from the part of January with Hodgson.  No evidence whatsoever that Kenny was ever interested in Llorente.

Hodgson only managed is for 7 days in January and it is well know tha we went for Llorente and Gomez before we went to Carroll.

[Loo Pan]

Should be noted that the Llorente interest was from the part of January with Hodgson.  No evidence whatsoever that Kenny was ever interested in Llorente.

The papers started reporting our interest in Llorente later in the month, Hodgson was sacked on the 8th. So it's clear that the meeting that Llorente refers to is post Hodgson. But of course he would have already been a potential target because it's Comolli who is in charge of our transfer policy.

[Renato]

Because Carroll will become good next year.

Or if not that year, the year after that.

or if not that year, the---

well, you get the idea.

 

LOL how original!

[itsgunnabebarnes!]

how much could we get for carroll?

10m??? I personally think downing, kuyt, maxi, Aurelio, Jones and cole should all go