Topic: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer

[Baz Smythe]

Yeah, cos it's taken Juan Mata, Ashley Young, Phil Jones, Damba Ba, Scott Parker, Adebayor, Sergio Aguero, over a year to make an impact at their respective clubs. Hell, even Chamberlain, an 18 year old (and only just) has shown more in a few appearances than Downing, Adam and co have over the course of most of the season.

People need to take their specs off. The last few transfer windows have looked more and more like a train crash.

All these players you mentioned were part of 1 or 2 adjustments not an overhaul. Scott Parker has slotted into a ready made midfield whereas Adam, Downing and Hendo are all new and they are the midfield, go along with Lucas and Gerrards injuries and thats the difference. We haven't had a consistent midfield this season.

[aurelian]

All these players you mentioned were part of 1 or 2 adjustments not an overhaul. Scott Parker has slotted into a ready made midfield whereas Adam, Downing and Hendo are all new and they are the midfield, go along with Lucas and Gerrards injuries and thats the difference. We haven't had a consistent midfield this season.

what are you on about, mate?  we have no problems in midfield, everything is great, we just don't finish our chances.

 

[kkjellquist]

This thread is full of people either completely overreacting or moaning about Comolli and making ever so sly digs at the transfer policy.

Can't believe this thread is still going....50+ pages over a comment that could be total tactical BS from DC.....

[Jetmir M.]

Can't believe this thread is still going....50+ pages over a comment that could be total tactical BS from DC.....

It's not just 'over a comment' though.

This thread's about discussing what we think are our weaknesses and  which positions should we address in the summer.

[Aaronb121]

Why not? It's not like he's asking low-profile people to follow back. The message might be just to confirm it's not a fake account.

"Ozil does not have any official Twitter account, claims teammate Khedira."

[rossipersempre]

"Ozil does not have any official Twitter account, claims teammate Khedira."

Is that the Anfield-bound Khedira?

[aurelian]

Can't believe this thread is still going....50+ pages over a comment that could be total tactical BS from DC.....

or it could be the truth.

They said in January nothing would happen.  None of us believed it because of our obvious weaknesses.

And yet... nothing happened.

So why should we think Comolli isn't being serious about this too?

[Juan Loco]

Is that the Anfield-bound Khedira?

He's done well for himself since he left has ol' Milan.

[Jetmir M.]

"Ozil does not have any official Twitter account, claims teammate Khedira."

I stand corrected then (even though you never said where that quote is coming from). Just thought it's odd for a fake account to have 60k followers. But then again what do I know, I rarely use twatter.

The most imporant thing is though there's a better chance of us winning the league this year than signing Ozil in the summer...

[kkjellquist]

or it could be the truth.

They said in January nothing would happen.  None of us believed it because of our obvious weaknesses.

And yet... nothing happened.

So why should we think Comolli isn't being serious about this too?

Either way...50+ pages for nothing.

[aurelian]

Either way...50+ pages for nothing.

guess it depends on your definition of "for nothing."

Some of us think that everything is fine.

Some of us think that there are more than 1-2 areas that need to be addressed, sorely.  Not just "adjustments," but overhauls.

If that is "nothing," then there really is no point in having a forum at all.

[steveeastend]

Anybody watched Insua today?

Think it was a mistake to let him go, would be more than offering competition for Enrique. His, Insuas, quality in attack would have been useful this season for us.

[Coolie High]

Anybody watched Insua today?

Think it was a mistake to let him go, would be more than offering competition for Enrique. His, Insuas, quality in attack would have been useful this season for us.

At least wait till next week when he gets raped by Adam Johnson before passing judgement.

[RojoLeón]

At least wait till next week when he gets raped by Adam Johnson before passing judgement.

Are you Samantha Morton in Minority Report?

You better call the police and let them know

[dast18]

Are you Samantha Morton in Minority Report?

You better call the police and let them know

 
Insua looked good today though. Really offers something in the final third, good crossing and passing. Still not the quickest player around, but I would not have a problem with having him in the squad. Decent player, and I think he counts as 'homegrown' for LFC?

[steveeastend]

Insua looked good today though. Really offers something in the final third, good crossing and passing. Still not the quickest player around, but I would not have a problem with having him in the squad. Decent player, and I think he counts as 'homegrown' for LFC?

All good reasons for selling him... oh wait... why exactly did we let him go? High wages couldn´t have been the problem either.

[firing squad]

Either way...50+ pages for nothing.

it's an internet forum.

[RojoLeón]

Insua looked good today though. Really offers something in the final third, good crossing and passing. Still not the quickest player around, but I would not have a problem with having him in the squad. Decent player, and I think he counts as 'homegrown' for LFC?

Yes, homegrown. Can probably speak a fair bit of English. Premier league tried and tested. Smart kid who likes to play pass and move football - positive and unafraid of receiving possession. Strong and has plenty of stamina (can run all day). Crosses well, in fact: probably a better attacker than our own leftback.

Unfortunately, he would probably cost a few million.

[Zlen]

All good reasons for selling him... oh wait... why exactly did we let him go? High wages couldn´t have been the problem either.

Gerrard plays in his position?
Ah fuck it, our transfer policy is beyond me..outtahere..

[graaf_x]

I hope we will do some business before Euros. In ideal world it would be fantastic if we signed, for example, Giroud and paid for him 10 million in June, before he succeeds in Ukraine & Poland and therefore would cost twice the amount. That's what I call good scouting.

[Red Cez]

I hope we will do some business before Euros. In ideal world it would be fantastic if we signed, for example, Giroud and paid for him 10 millions in June, before he succeeds in Ukraine & Poland and therefore would cost twice the amount. That's what I call good scouting.

Signing him for £2million back in 2010 would have been good scouting...

[Gnurglan]

All good reasons for selling him... oh wait... why exactly did we let him go? High wages couldn´t have been the problem either.

Goes without saying that Roy should have kept him last season. That loan pushed him out of our plans. To think we paid to replace him with Konchesky... Still think we should have kept Insua. The natural change would have been to let go off Aurelio instead.

[Rafas_Heroes]

Nothing of note will happen until the £35 million pound elephant in the room either starts performing like the 8th most expensive player, ever, or is sold for a minimal loss. I'd even add Downing to that equation as well

Not knocking Andy as none of this is his fault (transfer fee) but Downing has been woeful, FSG must think Kenny and Comolli were taking the piss spending £55 million on those two

[RojoLeón]

the natural change would have been to let go off Aurelio instead.

Which we had done so already. He wouldn't take a pay as you play deal and was let go.


But then our Cecil, signed him back of a full pay deal, for a two year contract, playing 21 games last season and 2 this season.

Insua played 19 for Gala last season (and was fit the entire time) and has played 28 this for Sporting, including 4 goals.

Good job we had Cecil and Roy to fix the mistakes of the rafa years

[Red Cez]

Nothing of note will happen until the £35 million pound elephant in the room either starts performing like the 8th most expensive player, ever, or is sold for a minimal loss. I'd even add Downing to that equation as well

Not knocking Andy as none of this is his fault (transfer fee) but Downing has been woeful, FSG must think Kenny and Comolli were taking the piss spending £55 million on those two

Fooling no one.

[vivabobbygraham]

I agree. But it´s not the mentality only, it´s the individual class of some players. The right mentality and confidence comes from quality, being good in the frist place. Or in the case of ManU, from the trust in the likes of Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Hernandez and maybe Berbatov being able to make the difference due to simply being better in playing football. The right mentality with a lack of quality is not enough on a regular basis, if you wanna win the majority of your games week in, week out.

This is what we need, more of those top quality boys. IF we bring them in, we will be coming very strong as the foundation is pretty much there. The mentality will come as a consequence then...

Say's something about the prem when Scholes and Giggs are still bossing games rather than meeting and greeting in Old Trafford hospitality. It is also the fear factor they induce in most teams, beaten before they started. Been watching Bilbao rip into them this evening, a very pretty sight, without fear. Rooney I give you and Nani too on his day but the rest are average...but with a supreme confidence and a team ethic which the other fellah demands.

That didn't come overnight and it will take Kenny time. He needs another two season though and I contend it will be given so intrinsic is he to the future wellbeing of the club. We have bright owners who see the big picture as their Red Sox dealings suggest. The quality you speak of is there I believe with a core of Pepe, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas, Suarez and Henderson, all still improving I suggest and in need of high stake games to take them to the next level. Coates, Downing and Enrique too can step up in given circumstances and I haven't written Carroll off just yet. Bellamy, Gerrard and maybe Dirk have another season left , therefore my contention is that another striker and wide mid will bolster the squad enormously. Add in a couple of youngsters like Jonjo, Sterling and my prediction for the step up to the first team, Silva, makes us potentially formidable over time. I'm no superfan just quietly optimistic Kenny is building a really good squad.

[steveeastend]

Say's something about the prem when Scholes and Giggs are still bossing games rather than meeting and greeting in Old Trafford hospitality. It is also the fear factor they induce in most teams, beaten before they started. Been watching Bilbao rip into them this evening, a very pretty sight, without fear. Rooney I give you and Nani too on his day but the rest are average...but with a supreme confidence and a team ethic which the other fellah demands.

That didn't come overnight and it will take Kenny time. He needs another two season though and I contend it will be given so intrinsic is he to the future wellbeing of the club. We have bright owners who see the big picture as their Red Sox dealings suggest. The quality you speak of is there I believe with a core of Pepe, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas, Suarez and Henderson, all still improving I suggest and in need of high stake games to take them to the next level. Coates, Downing and Enrique too can step up in given circumstances and I haven't written Carroll off just yet. Bellamy, Gerrard and maybe Dirk have another season left , therefore my contention is that another striker and wide mid will bolster the squad enormously. Add in a couple of youngsters like Jonjo, Sterling and my prediction for the step up to the first team, Silva, makes us potentially formidable over time. I'm no superfan just quietly optimistic Kenny is building a really good squad.

Yes. The thing is though, ManU are fucked big time as they STILL depend on Giggs and Scholes in the PL. In Europe this isn´t enough and this year shows their quality problems within the squad big time as they just sold too much quality over the years. Without Rooney there are plain average just like the majority of the PL.

From our point of view that´s all just positive. Arsenal will recover, City will stay strong but with the right signings we can make our way up in the league and after a couple of seasons think of making our way up in Europe as well. Unbelievable that it´s only a couple of years ago when we already have been there...

After all I am optimistic again as I think that Kennys vision of football is just right and Clarke his perfect tactical assistent. They way they wanna have us play is to be seen and although we are not there yet we are on a good way. In my opinion we will NEED three top players, attacking midfield, striker and left back for a start and then the new season can come..

On a final note... I watched the Bilbao game as well... what a game of football!! It showed the difference between Spanish football and the english league at the moment..What a joy to see how they showed this commercial ManU what a real football club is all about... passion, attacking football and singing fans... that´s football!!

[Suarez7Carroll9]

Olivier Giroud looks like a top player. Reminds me of Van Persie. He is the player Carroll should have been.

Good touch, good pace, good movement, dominant in the air, two footed and most importantly scores lots of goals, the predatory instinct we are currently lacking.

Someone like him would be great but Montpellier are 2nd in the league, look certain for Champions League Football, hopefully they get knocked out before the summer transfer window ends so we can snap him up... I thought they were near the relegation zone until today. Him and a young prospect like Texeira who has great potential would be great. Will get a start every 3 or 4 games.

[Melbred]

Prices for Munian, Llorente and Martinez probably just went up 5 miillion each after that performance against the Mancs.

Not like we'd have a chance at getting any of them anyway..

[maher]

that iker muniain from Atletico belbao is spuerb
he bossed the manc
please Comolli sign him

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Muniain, Soldado, Martinez.

Problem solved.

We should go full throttle for young Iker, what a player.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Prices for Munian, Llorente and Martinez probably just went up 5 miillion each after that performance against the Mancs.

Not like we'd have a chance at getting any of them anyway..

Is it depressing that this Bilbao team cost less than Andy Carroll?

[vivabobbygraham]

Yes. The thing is though, ManU are fucked big time as they STILL depend on Giggs and Scholes in the PL. In Europe this isn´t enough and this year shows their quality problems within the squad big time as they just sold too much quality over the years. Without Rooney there are plain average just like the majority of the PL.

From our point of view that´s all just positive. Arsenal will recover, City will stay strong but with the right signings we can make our way up in the league and after a couple of seasons think of making our way up in Europe as well. Unbelievable that it´s only a couple of years ago when we already have been there...

After all I am optimistic again as I think that Kennys vision of football is just right and Clarke his perfect tactical assistent. They way they wanna have us play is to be seen and although we are not there yet we are on a good way. In my opinion we will NEED three top players, attacking midfield, striker and left back for a start and then the new season can come..

On a final note... I watched the Bilbao game as well... what a game of football!! It showed the difference between Spanish football and the english league at the moment..What a joy to see how they showed this commercial ManU what a real football club is all about... passion, attacking football and singing fans... that´s football!!

We used to be the Basque equivalent here, sadly no longer the case but yes it was a sparkling performance by a team with no fear and expect them to finish the job off comfortably next week. You're not a fan of Enrique? What about young Robbo?

[KopCats]

Muniain, Soldado, Martinez.

Problem solved.

We should go full throttle for young Iker, what a player.

If only. we probably for someone else, some talented english youngster while these three pick a team of their choosing.

[lfcmaster]

Prices for Munian, Llorente and Martinez probably just went up 5 miillion each after that performance against the Mancs.

Not like we'd have a chance at getting any of them anyway..

lorente and martinez both look made for the premier league

[Melbred]

lorente and martinez both look made for the premier league

Yep, too bad we had that 30m offer for Llorente rejected before splashing out on Andy.

Martinez will be the best player in his position in a few years time.

[Gnurglan]

We used to be the Basque equivalent here, sadly no longer the case but yes it was a sparkling performance by a team with no fear and expect them to finish the job off comfortably next week.

They may not win, but both Ajax and Bilbao have beaten them at OT. That did not happen just a year or two ago.

The way Bilbao played was an eye opener to me. We tend to talk about the best players, that those are the ones we need. Then we quickly say we can't get them, so we must spend fortunes on average players. If anything, Bilbao, and Ajax have shown you don't need the best of the best to play very good football. These are not superstars who cost fortunes, but the way they played was brilliant. We should be able to sign players from for example Bilbao. Not because we are a better side (at least not now), but because we should have the money to sign their players. Even their best players should be within reach.

[steveeastend]

We used to be the Basque equivalent here, sadly no longer the case but yes it was a sparkling performance by a team with no fear and expect them to finish the job off comfortably next week. You're not a fan of Enrique? What about young Robbo?

I think that Enrique is a physically strong defender but could use some competition when it comes to the passing and overall game intelligence in the final third. I think he is alright but considering that way Kenny wants to set up our play, pass and move, his passing and movement off the ball in attack is one dimensional and predictable most of the time. I know what you mean with your comparison and what Liverpool used to be all about in terms of the football played on the pitch and actually was thinking about this when watching the Bilbao game. With a couple of improvements we could be coming close to this in the near future considering the way we played already in a couple of games so far. The physical strength and foundation of the squad is there, now we have to add the technique sparkle

Robinson may come good and for sure is a talented lad but I was refering mainly to next season which I think would be too early for him playing a major role, rotating with Enrique f.e.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

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Gorka €4m. San José €3.5m (bought back). Ander H €8.5m. Martínez €6m. De Marcos €360,000. So, €22.36m unless I've missed someone.

And we paid almost the same amount for one Stewart Downing 

[Camarero25]

Sid Lowe ‏ @sidlowe  Reply  Retweeted  Favorite · Open
Gorka €4m. San José €3.5m (bought back). Ander H €8.5m. Martínez €6m. De Marcos €360,000. So, €22.36m unless I've missed someone.

And we paid almost the same amount for one Stewart Downing 

That's in Euros, so we paid more.