Topic: FC Barcelona

[beardsleyismessimk1]

Liverpool have left club ‘paralysed’ – Can’t get out of ‘state of shock’ following Anfield mauling
By Sport Witness Team - 23rd September 2019

Liverpool, you’re to blame.


 
With the Catalan media wheeling out all kind of reasoning for Barcelona’s poor start to the season (they’re eighth after five matches), Jurgen Klopp’s men are popping up more often than not.

Catalan newspaper La Vanguardia today goes with a headline reading: ‘Barça remains paralysed four months after Liverpool’

It’s then explained Ernesto Valverde’s side haven’t recovered from that night at Anfield four months ago, when Liverpool turned the Champions League tie on its head and sent Barcelona out of the competition.

The club ‘remains in a state of shock’ since the 4-0 defeat, described as one of the ‘cruelest’ in Barca’s history. They’re ‘unable to move forward’ and there’s ‘no reliable signs of recovery’.

Following the club’s latest away defeat, to Granada, it’s even stated that perhaps the easiest remedy would have been to sack Valverde immediately after the match at Anfield.

Such is the weight being given to Liverpool in all of this, La Vanguardia actually has two articles on it today.

The second has a headline reading: ‘Every day is Liverpool’

The Barcelona team are ‘trapped in Anfield’, and every time they have to travel for an away game the whole trauma returns and holds them back.

Liverpool, you’ve broken Barcelona.

[rebel23]

Wow, that's insane.

[lionel_messias]

Just wow!

It reminds you that sport is played in the head first, body second.

Can't wait for their next visit to Anfield.

[BrandoLFC]

Messi off injured again.  They're season is about to be a write-off before it even starts even if they finish out the win today.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Messi was the only reason they had a chance against us last year, they're a mess.

[rob1966]

Liverpool have left club ‘paralysed’ – Can’t get out of ‘state of shock’ following Anfield mauling
By Sport Witness Team - 23rd September 2019

Liverpool, you’re to blame.


 
With the Catalan media wheeling out all kind of reasoning for Barcelona’s poor start to the season (they’re eighth after five matches), Jurgen Klopp’s men are popping up more often than not.

Catalan newspaper La Vanguardia today goes with a headline reading: ‘Barça remains paralysed four months after Liverpool’

It’s then explained Ernesto Valverde’s side haven’t recovered from that night at Anfield four months ago, when Liverpool turned the Champions League tie on its head and sent Barcelona out of the competition.

The club ‘remains in a state of shock’ since the 4-0 defeat, described as one of the ‘cruelest’ in Barca’s history. They’re ‘unable to move forward’ and there’s ‘no reliable signs of recovery’.

Following the club’s latest away defeat, to Granada, it’s even stated that perhaps the easiest remedy would have been to sack Valverde immediately after the match at Anfield.

Such is the weight being given to Liverpool in all of this, La Vanguardia actually has two articles on it today.

The second has a headline reading: ‘Every day is Liverpool’

The Barcelona team are ‘trapped in Anfield’, and every time they have to travel for an away game the whole trauma returns and holds them back.

Liverpool, you’ve broken Barcelona.

[Red Beret]

Messi was the only reason they had a chance against us last year, they're a mess.

A mess without Messi?

It's crazy to look at it in those terms but it's probably correct: Barcelona are the most expensive one man team in history - and they didn't even buy that one man.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

One of my Catalan friend's now only likes Basketball...

was this after Spain won the World Cup the other day?

[RedSince86]

Messi injured again.

Rushing him back and now expecting another lay off with a thigh injury.

[harleydanger]

Ffs. He is taking what he something that everyone knows is horrible, and comparing it to something not as horrible to make a point.

As someone pointed out, it’s similar to the English equivalent of comparing stuff to Hitler, like parking inspectors, despite the fact Hitler killed 6-8 million more Jews than parking inspectors

[Flaccido Dongingo]

They've been fined €300, yes that's not a typo, €300 for tapping up Greizmann, that'll show them!

https://www.marca.com/futbol/barcelona/2019/09/26/5d8c9d91268e3ed35c8b4579.html

[classycarra]

They are such a funny club. Professional inferiority complex, despite constant favouritism shown to them

[sms1986]

They've been fined €300, yes that's not a typo, €300 for tapping up Greizmann, that'll show them!

https://www.marca.com/futbol/barcelona/2019/09/26/5d8c9d91268e3ed35c8b4579.html

It's that low due to the regulations which state that financial penalties have to be quite small - https://en.as.com/en/2019/09/26/football/1569497564_489398.html. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's what the regulations say.

[Red Beret]

They are such a funny club. Professional inferiority complex, despite constant favouritism shown to them

hmm... one for the City thread too!

[Schmidt]

Funny to see Coutinho doing well at Bayern, seems like he's pretty much hit the ground running there while Barca continue to be a bit of a mess.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

It's that low due to the regulations which state that financial penalties have to be quite small - https://en.as.com/en/2019/09/26/football/1569497564_489398.html. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it's what the regulations say.

So basically there's nothing to deter them doing the same in a few seasons with Joao Felix?, or Saul Niguez?, that's totally wrong, if ever a rule needed brought up to modern times it's this.

[classycarra]

hmm... one for the City thread too!

A bit. But people don't generally love them in the same way they do Barca. Even if only as a 'second team' or something, or loving 'their way'

So basically there's nothing to deter them doing the same in a few seasons with Joao Felix?, or Saul Niguez?, that's totally wrong, if ever a rule needed brought up to modern times it's this.

I dunno, I'm sure that fine will have them thinking twice next time they consider 'doing a barca'

[KurtVerbose]

They've been fined €300, yes that's not a typo, €300 for tapping up Greizmann, that'll show them!

https://www.marca.com/futbol/barcelona/2019/09/26/5d8c9d91268e3ed35c8b4579.html

It will cost them another EUR 80m though, the money going to Atletico.

[elsewhere]

Will they pay that 300 euros in installments or one time lump sum? I guess there is a discount if it's one time payment?

[classycarra]

Will they pay that 300 euros in installments or one time lump sum? I guess there is a discount if it's one time payment?

They're trying to find an agreement to loan it out to Everton

[Gerry Attrick]

I'd have thought Barcelona would've learnt their lesson about tapping up, because they nearly always turn out shit.

[classycarra]

I'd have thought Barcelona would've learnt their lesson about tapping up, because they nearly always turn out shit.

Dmytro Chygrynskiy - €35mil (in 2009!)

Tore it up. One in a long line of amazing signings for Pep

[oxenstierna]

We should try to squeeze more out of them too 

[BrandoLFC]

Funny to see Coutinho doing well at Bayern, seems like he's pretty much hit the ground running there while Barca continue to be a bit of a mess.

He didn't forget how to play.  He was just sent into an impossible situation based on the squad and managers tactics.  Kimmich, Tolisso, and Coutinho seems like a pretty potent midfield and will be interesting to see how they do in going forward.

[El Lobo]

Will they pay that 300 euros in installments or one time lump sum? I guess there is a discount if it's one time payment?

Arsenal would have had that paid off in full by 2319, £1 a year. Revolutionary.

[Jonathan Hall ☆☆☆☆☆☆]

was this after Spain won the World Cup the other day?

Nope, more the Barcelona team only.

[Suareznumber7]

The more I read about Catalan independence, the more I realize it is down to just pure greed and the false sense that since they are rich, they shouldn't pay taxes to Spain.

I'd maybe read up a little bit about King Franco and what he did to those living in Catalonia before coming to those conclusions.  Much of what is happening today is directly related to what happened in the past. 

[classycarra]

I'd maybe read up a little bit about King Franco and what he did to those living in Catalonia before coming to those conclusions.  Much of what is happening today is directly related to what happened in the past. 

not sure there’s much to read on king Franco

[RedSince86]

not sure there’s much to read on king Franco

[classycarra]

But to actually answer that point, there's been some great posts correcting the misinformed assumption that Barcelona FC were hard done by under Franco on RAWK, often citing Sid Lowe's book. Here's a couple from a quick search.

Excerpts From: Lowe, Sid. “Fear and Loathing in La Liga.”

[RedForeverTT]

One of my Catalan friend's now only likes Basketball...

That is a top team though.

[Vinay]

Suarez is back.

[rushyman]

Suarez is back.

Thank god that beards off

Started to Look like Charles Manson

[Ratboy3G]

They've been fined €300, yes that's not a typo, €300 for tapping up Greizmann, that'll show them!

https://www.marca.com/futbol/barcelona/2019/09/26/5d8c9d91268e3ed35c8b4579.html

Surely that huge sum will come down on appeal?

[Vinay]

Suarez is probably the best centre forward (Number 9) in Europe. Lewandowski and Aguero are close seconds.

[Max_powers]

Suarez is probably the best centre forward (Number 9) in Europe. Lewandowski and Aguero are close seconds.

Did you just wake up after a two year nap or something?

Why? because he scored in two straight games?  Before that he was getting booed by Barca fans.

Lewandowski has 14 goals in 10 games this season. Aguero has 8 goals in 6 games. Suarez was basically a 1 in 2 striker last season. Which is not bad but no where on the same level as the other two anymore.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Since 2013, he hasn't scored under 25 goals.

2012/2013 - 30
2013/2014 - 31
2014/2015 - 25
2015/2016 - 59
2016/2017 - 37
2017/2018 - 31
2018/2019 - 25

His all around play has gone down but prior to this season he's still scored consistently.

Lewa

2011/2012 - 30
2012/2013 - 36
2013/2014 - 28
2014/2015 - 25
2015/2016 - 42
2016/2017 - 43
2017/2018 - 41
2018/2019 - 40

[Something Worse]

Pub leagues though, let's compare the real metric.

42nd minute passes

Kane 1
Suarez 0
Lewa 0
Messi 0
Maradona 0
Pele 0

[elsewhere]

Suarez is probably the best centre forward (Number 9) in Europe. Lewandowski and Aguero are close seconds.

Nah, overreaction imo. He hasn't been that good last 2 years. Good goals against Inter though.

[Max_powers]

He is clearly on decline though. I would argue that scoring a goal every two games like he did last season isn't really that impressive considering he is being supplied by the best creative player in the world. He is also very patchy with his goal scoring. He can score 10 in a month and then go on long barren spells.

Lewandowski is just getting better and better. IMO he is comfortably the best in the world. His hold up play is worse now compared to his Dortmund days, but his finishing and movement is the best in the world.

Aguero is consistent as ever.