Topic: La Liga 11/12

[eirwen]

I thought Real Madrid played much better last night, at least in the beginning. I thought it might go to penalties right until the end.
Don't know why RM felt the need for that kind of behavior. Is it simply players' frustration or more of Mourinho's tactics? Such a shame. 

[eirwen]

Apparently during the row Villa said something offensive about Islam and that's why Ozil was so upset? Hope it's not true. If so it's a terrible thing for Villa to do.

[DangerScouse]

Give Iniesta to Mou, within a year Mou is able to turn Iniesta into a J..BArton.

Was Mourinho in charge when Pepe kicked that player in the face?

[itsgunnabebarnes!]

Ronaldo is an average player, can bet my bollocks Suarez is 10x the player he is. Manchester United did an absolutely good job selling their dross for 80m pounds. He isn't needed at Old Trafford and is just a piece of crap in the Madrid squad. Overrated player.

How he scored 48 goals last season is beyond me, his style is more predictable than Ray Wilikins saying "Stay on your feet". Can't believe some people say he is the best player in the world.

haha, you have to be on the wind up.

[drpepe]

I thought Real Madrid played much better last night, at least in the beginning. I thought it might go to penalties right until the end.
Don't know why RM felt the need for that kind of behavior. Is it simply players' frustration or more of Mourinho's tactics? Such a shame.

the fact that this shithouse stuff keeps happening to mourihno's teams strongly suggests it is a tactic or at least a side-effect of the way he coaches

[Butter Keks]

Turns out Mourinho actually had a reason for what he did to that fella last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHjEFZjh7U

He got slapped!!

[Bilbao Lions]

I really wished, Mandril and Farsa would extend their asiatic tours for 12 months. The Spanish competition is a joke thanks to then and to the media.

["Nookie".]

Turns out Mourinho actually had a reason for what he did to that fella last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHjEFZjh7U

He got slapped!!

Was that before or after though?

[firing squad]

Someones deluded for saying Messi is better than Maradona?

Deluded like.

I notice you're 28. Did you catch much of Maradona is his time at Naples?

no I didn't but my dad who worships Barca and Messi has and he says it as well.  Messi is a brilliant player,definitelly one of the greatest but Maradona is THE greatest. The only player who could singleheandedly win trophies with anyone.  If he was playing today he'd be even better with all the science in sports nowadays. Put him in today's Barca and he'd score 100 goals per season.  Absolute beast.

[nocturnalvin]

no I didn't but my dad who worships Barca and Messi has and he says it as well.  Messi is a brilliant player,definitelly one of the greatest but Maradona is THE greatest. The only player who could singleheandedly win trophies with anyone.  If he was playing today he'd be even better with all the science in sports nowadays. Put him in today's Barca and he'd score 100 goals per season.  Absolute beast.

I still put Maradona ahead of Messi, but how can you make statements when you haven't even watched him for Napoli especially.

[LOKKO]

Turns out Mourinho actually had a reason for what he did to that fella last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHjEFZjh7U

He got slapped!!

Was that before or after though?

looks like vilanova is pointing to his eye at the end of the video so id say after

["Nookie".]

looks like vilanova is pointing to his eye at the end of the video so id say after

I thought so as well. So the only reason he had was being a prize twat.

[firing squad]

I still put Maradona ahead of Messi, but how can you make statements when you haven't even watched him for Napoli especially.

I watched clips but that doesn't even matter,the results matter.

[deadlybuzz]

Turns out Mourinho actually had a reason for what he did to that fella last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHjEFZjh7U

He got slapped!!

The smirk says it all when he's turned away before getting the slap. I'm not defending the Barca assistant's actions but as everyone here alludes to whether you like Jose or not, Jose is the biggest WUM in football.

[kratos]

Apparently during the row Villa said something offensive about Islam and that's why Ozil was so upset? Hope it's not true. If so it's a terrible thing for Villa to do.

Where did you find that out from? Thats awful if true. 

[C]

Turns out Mourinho actually had a reason for what he did to that fella last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHjEFZjh7U

He got slapped!!

that was after Jose gave him a wet willy, still Jose took it well - if some nobody slapped me in the head i'd want to take his head off

[nocturnalvin]

I watched clips but that doesn't even matter,the results matter.

you have just lost credibility there. Unless of course, those clips are actually full games.

[mat106]

Turns out Mourinho actually had a reason for what he did to that fella last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHjEFZjh7U

He got slapped!!

That was after the eye gouge! Whatever, they're all loca!

[firing squad]

you have just lost credibility there. Unless of course, those clips are actually full games.

as I said previously,my dad,who is a football coach for 30 years watched them at the time and he's a Barca and Messi worshiper by the way.  What matters is that he practically singleheandedly turned obscure teams into champions while Messi seems to only be himself when Xavi,Iniesta & Co are around him.

That doesn't mean he's not one of the best players ever but he's not THE best.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Where did you find that out from? Thats awful if true.

Ozil said that after the match.

[nocturnalvin]

as I said previously,my dad,who is a football coach for 30 years watched them at the time and he's a Barca and Messi worshiper by the way.  What matters is that he practically singleheandedly turned obscure teams into champions while Messi seems to only be himself when Xavi,Iniesta & Co are around him.

That doesn't mean he's not one of the best players ever but he's not THE best.

yeah. "my dad says so".

[firing squad]

yeah. "my dad says so".

so if you haven't actually lived in a time of a certain player that means that the guy in who's time you are living is the best ever?  ok.

[nocturnalvin]

so if you haven't actually lived in a time of a certain player that means that the guy in who's time you are living is the best ever?  ok.

No. It seems though, you have a problem understanding posts.

Your opinions are based on your dad's opinions, and of course those clips. Then to proclaim Maradona would score 100 goals in a Barcelona side is plain stupid. He did play for Barcelona btw, just in case your dad didn't tell you.

[wardides]

as I said previously,my dad,who is a football coach for 30 years watched them at the time and he's a Barca and Messi worshiper by the way.  What matters is that he practically singleheandedly turned obscure teams into champions while Messi seems to only be himself when Xavi,Iniesta & Co are around him.

That doesn't mean he's not one of the best players ever but he's not THE best.

Napoli had pretty decent players around Diego aswell. As for results well, I've lost count of the amount of times Messi has won games for Barca. Messi has played 158 games, scored 138 goals and 53 assists. I think its a pretty decent argument to say that Barca wouldnt have won what they have without Messi.

[firing squad]

No. It seems though, you have a problem understanding posts.

Your opinions are based on your dad's opinions, and of course those clips. Then to proclaim Maradona would score 100 goals in a Barcelona side is plain stupid. He did play for Barcelona btw, just in case your dad didn't tell you.

I know he played for Barca,no need for patronising there. He won the cup and super cup before getting ill and breaking a leg.

Point is that Messi would probably do fuck all in a team like Napoli which is clearly visible practically whwnever he plays outside of Barca.

[nocturnalvin]

I know he played for Barca,no need for patronising there. He won the cup and super cup before getting ill and breaking a leg.

Point is that Messi would probably do fuck all in a team like Napoli which is clearly visible practically whwnever he plays outside of Barca.

Of course i am being patronising. Why wouldn't i be. You make the strangest and unfounded generalisations and assumptions, but all because your dad told you. You'd have more credibility if these were actually yours.

Messi make this Barca team great. Not the other way round.

[wardides]

Point is that Messi would probably do fuck all in a team like Napoli which is clearly visible practically whwnever he plays outside of Barca.

Possibly the most idiotic statement I've seen on here in a while. Explain this one?

Just for shits and giggles if he was in "a team like Napoli" they would fucking walk the league.

[firing squad]

Possibly the most idiotic statement I've seen on here in a while. Explain this one?

Just for shits and giggles if he was in "a team like Napoli" they would fucking walk the league.

of course,which is why Argentina is walking all over everyone all these years.

[elsewhere]

Where did you find that out from? Thats awful if true.

Ozil said it after the match.well,if calmest guy of Madrid losing it like that,and getting first red card of career,I was sure David Villa provoked.and he slaps,then run behind his teammates like the pussy he is.

[wardides]

of course,which is why Argentina is walking all over everyone all these years.

And that's Lionel Messi's fault? So one good world cup and then messi can be the best player in the world ye?

[RedMichelFerri]

Ozil said it after the match.well,if calmest guy of Madrid losing it like that,and getting first red card of career,I was sure David Villa provoked.and he slaps,then run behind his teammates like the pussy he is.

David Villa = pussy

I like David Villa.

[danny boy the red]

Ozil said it after the match.well,if calmest guy of Madrid losing it like that,and getting first red card of career,I was sure David Villa provoked.and he slaps,then run behind his teammates like the pussy he is.

Madrid get more mental every time they play Barca, the last time they were accusing Busquets of belting out racist remarks behind his hand.

I'ts ridiculous, I wouldn't believe anything from a Mourihno team says about Barcelona. He's a big lying bastard.

[Bob Loblaw]

Madrid get more mental every time they play Barca, the last time they were accusing Busquets of belting out racist remarks behind his hand.

Well he did, so.......

Turns out Mourinho actually had a reason for what he did to that fella last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHjEFZjh7U

He got slapped!!

If you watch it backwards then yes, he had a perfectly good reason to gouge yer mans eye.

Anyway, i want more of the gory details. Where is the footage of Ozil stamping on Fabregas, and Villa then slapping him?

[firing squad]

And that's Lionel Messi's fault? So one good world cup and then messi can be the best player in the world ye?

you are clearly missing the point and I actually have no more time in explaining it,I have to help a friend who's getting married to arrange a flat.

and one final thing,it's not 1 world cup is it,it's any Argentina's game with him in it.  There are probably no more than 5 games when he was actually being Lionel Messi.  End of.

[elsewhere]

this is ridiculously embarrasing.
you're deluded mate. Better than Maradona? Seriously??  We're talking about a player who rarely has a good game outside Barcelona.  He's the best player in the world,I'll give him that,one of the best generally,I''l give him that too but better than Maradona??  No fucking way.

Put Messi into a Napoli team and let's see if he's going to singlehandedly bring them out of total obscurity into the top of Italian and European football.

I was to write a long response to you,asking how it can be "ridiculously embarassing" to say Messi is better and why the fuck you'd call someone deluded for that.

Then I read your opinion is based on "my dad said maradona is better" "I have watched few clips of maradona"

How old are you,12?I have watched maradona in 3 world cups,saw full matches of him in barca and Napoli.Napoli team wasn't like piacenza,they had careca,carnavale in attack.alemao,de Napoli,Ferrara were all great players.

so to get the credit,Messi has to now leave barca and maybe go to a serie a mid table team and make them champion?the kid is the best ever,period,just feel lucky to witness it and enjoy

[Mr Dilkington]

you are clearly missing the point and I actually have no more time in explaining it,I have to help a friend who's getting married to arrange a flat.

and one final thing,it's not 1 world cup is it,it's any Argentina's game with him in it.  There are probably no more than 5 games when he was actually being Lionel Messi.  End of.

It's inevitable Messi will overtake Maradona.

He's just doing things at such a rate that it's only a matter of time.

[firing squad]

I was to write a long response to you,asking how it can be "ridiculously embarassing" to say Messi is better and why the fuck you'd call someone deluded for that.

Then I read your opinion is based on "my dad said maradona is better" "I have watched few clips of maradona"

How old are you,12?I have watched maradona in 3 world cups,saw full matches of him in barca and Napoli.Napoli team wasn't like piacenza,they had careca,carnavale in attack.alemao,de Napoli,Ferrara were all great players.

so to get the credit,Messi has to now leave barca and maybe go to a serie a mid table team and make them champion?the kid is the best ever,period,just feel lucky to witness it and enjoy

the ridiculously embarrasing part was for the other poster saying that Ronaldo is average and overrated.  off now.

[nocturnalvin]

We should take the debate over to the Messi thread.

["Nookie".]

the ridiculously embarrasing part was for the other poster saying that Ronaldo is average and overrated.  off now.

You really are clueless.

[elsewhere]

you are clearly missing the point and I actually have no more time in explaining it,I have to help a friend who's getting married to arrange a flat.

and one final thing,it's not 1 world cup is it,it's any Argentina's game with him in it.  There are probably no more than 5 games when he was actually being Lionel Messi.  End of.

I guess schillaci,skuhravy,Roger milla are in your top 20 players of all time then.

the World Cup is a bad way to rank players. Anything can happen during tournament play.in fact I think winning CL is harder.

Christophe Dugarry has won world cup with France as starter forward,I guess Messi can never be Dugarry then.