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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35280 on: November 13, 2019, 09:35:00 am »

But he won't care because he will have enough people making excuses for him in the media/across social media...we've already seen it in the last few days. Joe Gomez literally did nothing wrong I don't see how else this whole thing could be reported apart from shaming Sterling but hey


Listened to 5 Live while driving last night... Rob Green, Clinton Morrison and Dave Edwards all unanimous in feeling sorry for Sterling & that it should've been kept behind closed doors. Also heard John Cross say in Southgate's press conference it seems harsh given that Maddison went to a casino unpunished. Yes John, a player going to a casino in his spare time is exactly the same as assaulting someone.  ;D

Ian Dennis provided some voice of reason thankfully.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35281 on: November 13, 2019, 09:56:17 am »
Guardiola wont bail mid season; it would look like Liverpool have pushed him out, or scared him off, and in any case they still have a CL to fight for, even if they chose to abandon the PL (which they wont).

Pep can't feel confident in the CL though, and the prospect of finishing the season without either a Premier League title or a Champions League trophy must be haunting him.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35282 on: November 13, 2019, 10:04:52 am »
77 pages!.. 

This is great:

And was pushed into the advertising boards ( as was Walker) and continually had niggling fouls on him with no protection from the ref.

Yes you bellends, it's dreadful when a team commits loads of niggling fouls and the ref does nothing.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/rq2guhCgOaI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/rq2guhCgOaI</a>

Indeed..something Rodri was taken aback by when he joined City,posted this earlier in the thread..

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=274792.msg16877643#msg16877643

Pep.."Listen Rodri,you have to do tactical fouls"

Rodri interview "I am instructed to do tactical fouls"

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35283 on: November 13, 2019, 10:36:09 am »
Gomez would separate him to two men called Raheem and Sterling if he wanted to, good to see him keeping his calm despite being provoked.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35284 on: November 13, 2019, 10:47:44 am »
I don`t go on that site so decided to have a look at that Sterling thread. There's no reasoned debate on there, just comes across as a load of kids with no moderation trying to play up to the crowd.

Every site, every fan base has dickheads but that place is 100% dickhead so what`s the point of posting it on here? I feel I've just lost multiple brain cells after scanning the thing for a couple of minutes.

I read a few pages every now and again and am nauseated every time. It's just endless moaning.

To others that read it more often... Are there with a bit of humour there? RAWK threads on Everton, United, City etc. are more of a laugh than anything. Over there it's just fucking negativity all round.

They're watching one of the best teams in English football history and they can't even enjoy it.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35285 on: November 13, 2019, 10:49:01 am »
They’re desperate to turn this into a rivalry. Maybe that would happen if there weren’t more than 40 Man City fans in the country. Ultimately they are just a plastic distraction on the way to success. There is no tangible resentment or longstanding rivalry that we as a club have towards them - yet they inexplicably hate us as much as their neighbours.

No doubt there will be some friction in the England squad after this incident, considering there is only one Man City player present. It must be really tempting for Gomez (and maybe some of our other lads) to absolutely steam through Sterling in training. In any case, I can’t see them being friends any time soon.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35286 on: November 13, 2019, 10:53:03 am »
They’re desperate to turn this into a rivalry. Maybe that would happen if there weren’t more than 40 Man City fans in the country. Ultimately they are just a plastic distraction on the way to success. There is no tangible resentment or longstanding rivalry that we as a club have towards them - yet they inexplicably hate us as much as their neighbours.

No doubt there will be some friction in the England squad after this incident, considering there is only one Man City player present. It must be really tempting for Gomez (and maybe some of our other lads) to absolutely steam through Sterling in training. In any case, I can’t see them being friends any time soon.

Funny that if you come across any on Twitter they nearly all say something like “ST holder since 1980” or “City fan since the bad days” like they’re either desperate to prove they haven’t jumped on the bandwagon or they’re just trying a bit too hard. Feels like there’s more people claiming to be ST holders than there are people going to watch them.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35287 on: November 13, 2019, 11:04:45 am »
Guardiola wont bail mid season; it would look like Liverpool have pushed him out, or scared him off, and in any case they still have a CL to fight for, even if they chose to abandon the PL (which they wont).

Pep can't feel confident in the CL though, and the prospect of finishing the season without either a Premier League title or a Champions League trophy must be haunting him.

Bottom line is if City can't win the champions league with Pep in charge he has failed. He or City will never admit that but that's just fact. I can see them unravelling when he goes the signs are already there for all to see.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35288 on: November 13, 2019, 11:07:08 am »
Theres nothing to be gained or learned from going onto Bluemoon or any other opposition fans websites. I'm not suggesting that there's any similarities but you don't need to go to neo-nazi, child-porn, snuff or ISIS websites to realise people are fucked.

I'm not saying this because I've been on here for a few years. but I like the fact we shut down threads when people go off the program. There's a certain level of decorum ranging from stopping us from calling Manchester United the scum to actually using proper language that keeps this site above many others where the members are so one-eyed in their beliefs. Fair play to the mods, or there'd be many more reasons for opposition fans to be ridiculing us.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35289 on: November 13, 2019, 11:09:40 am »
Listened to 5 Live while driving last night... Rob Green, Clinton Morrison and Dave Edwards all unanimous in feeling sorry for Sterling & that it should've been kept behind closed doors. Also heard John Cross say in Southgate's press conference it seems harsh given that Maddison went to a casino unpunished. Yes John, a player going to a casino in his spare time is exactly the same as assaulting someone.  ;D

Ian Dennis provided some voice of reason thankfully.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35290 on: November 13, 2019, 11:40:44 am »
Bottom line is if City can't win the champions league with Pep in charge he has failed. He or City will never admit that but that's just fact. I can see them unravelling when he goes the signs are already there for all to see.

But their fans dont care about the Champions League remember. A quick search brings about these 2 particular beauties

"Plenty of fans think that there is a lobby within UEFA which actively works against their interests, and in favour of the established elite."

and this picture




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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35291 on: November 13, 2019, 11:57:12 am »
The PR work has already started with his agent. Sources letting the Telegraph know that the Liverpool fans behaviour is the source of his meltdown. The media just lapping it all up.

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Why years of vilification after Anfield exit may be at root of Raheem Sterling meltdown
It was a huge game for Manchester City at Anfield on Sunday, a chance to halve Liverpool’s six-point lead over the visitors and put down a marker while slowing their rivals’ formidable march.

It was no less so for Raheem Sterling and, as the fallout from his bust-up with Joe Gomez is hungrily dissected, that loss of control for which the City forward has subsequently apologised appears to have its roots in a lot more than just frustration at a particularly damaging defeat.

Liverpool is not just any game for Sterling. His departure from Anfield in 2015 was one of the most acrimonious of the Premier League era and he has been feverishly targeted with boos and chants of “there’s only one greedy b------” whenever he returns to the club he once called home.

There has certainly been a feeling among those close to him that so much of the vilification and vitriol he received in the media was borne, in part, by what he felt were Liverpool’s attempts to paint him as the villain of the piece during and after his £49 million transfer to City.

Sterling quickly became typecast as a bad-boy mercenary who had moved primarily for a £180,000-a-week salary worth double what was on offer at Anfield, even if his now bulging trophy cabinet dictates otherwise, and, whether a seed was sown or not, a wave of vacuous “stories” with an uncomfortable undertone would follow in certain outlets.

Remember the one about him buying a sausage roll from Greggs and having the temerity to eat it in a “£500,000 limited edition Bentley”? Or that one about him shopping in Poundworld, as if that was some sort of mortal sin for such a wealthy individual? And so the list goes on.

He would later joke that he had one of those faces “people don’t like” but the watershed moment came after he was abused during City’s 2-0 defeat at Chelsea in December last year and responded in an Instagram post by accusing some sections of the media of helping to “fuel racism” through their portrayal of young black footballers.

This, of course, is not to excuse Sterling’s behaviour towards Gomez but it might help to offer some context to why the City forward reacted so disproportionately the day after his shove from the Liverpool defender in the closing minutes of Sunday’s 3-1 defeat. One source on Tuesday suggested the Liverpool game had become “totally acidic” for Sterling and perhaps his second clash with Gomez, at St George’s Park after reporting for England duty, was an unacceptable unloading of years of pent-up frustration whenever he visits Anfield.

Sterling had actually been quite calm in the dressing room after the game and had appeared to patch things up with Gomez but something snapped in him on Monday. It is worth noting that Sterling has never suggested he is a saint, even if the narrative has swung so wildly now that people seem wary of even legitimate, constructive criticism. He just asked for some fairness and balance.

Equally, no player rises to the very top without having some bite and fight. Any of the kids at Rainhill High School, where Sterling was sent after joining Liverpool in 2012, will tell you this was a lad who would stand up for himself if he felt maligned and the club’s coaches learned very quickly that he was no pushover on the pitch. His first game for one of Liverpool’s junior sides was against bitter rivals Everton at Finch Farm and Sterling was flattened in the opening exchanges by Luke Garbutt, who had not long arrived from Leeds United.. But Sterling’s reaction was not to retreat but to face down such provocation and he went on to produce a man-of-the-match performance.

Sterling’s ascent, his metamorphosis from a shot-shy forward to a hungry, obsessive goalscorer, has been clear for all to see over the past year especially and he is now widely regarded as one of Europe’s best attackers, one with 18 goals in 21 games for club and country this season. Anfield, then, represented something of a final hurdle for a player who has too often gone missing in action at a ground he has yet to score in since leaving Liverpool. That statistic did not change on Sunday but it was comfortably Sterling’s strongest showing at his former club and the emotion after another rancorous reunion finally appeared to get the better of him.

The surprise, perhaps, is that he had not snapped before now.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/13/years-vilification-anfield-exit-may-root-raheem-sterling-meltdown/

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35292 on: November 13, 2019, 12:03:52 pm »
LFC's fault then
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35293 on: November 13, 2019, 12:08:29 pm »
LFC's fault then

Poor old City, never their fault.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35294 on: November 13, 2019, 12:10:35 pm »
Wow, some people really fucking hate Liverpool  :-\

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35295 on: November 13, 2019, 12:13:45 pm »
But their fans dont care about the Champions League remember. A quick search brings about these 2 particular beauties

"Plenty of fans think that there is a lobby within UEFA which actively works against their interests, and in favour of the established elite."

and this picture



an amazing picture

someone actually went to the trouble of printing that shite on paper :lmao

are they a form of subtitle?
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35296 on: November 13, 2019, 12:15:07 pm »
The point which needs to be made is, how come people don't go on about the treatment Milner gets from City fans? He get's the same abuse, yet no one ever mentions that when its Milner in the firing line. I will be honest and say I would prefer people to get behind the team rather than give Sterling abuse. For one thing, it indicates that people are still bothered by him. The truth is we have a great team now let's enjoy them and just forget all about Sterling, he's yesterday's man to me now.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35297 on: November 13, 2019, 12:16:02 pm »
an amazing picture

someone actually went to the trouble of printing that shite on paper :lmao

are they a form of subtitle?

And I've been calling them the Everton of Manchester, they could learn a thing or two about booing from the ev ;D

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35298 on: November 13, 2019, 12:19:06 pm »
The point which needs to be made is, how come people don't go on about the treatment Milner gets from City fans? He get's the same abuse, yet no one ever mentions that when its Milner in the firing line. I will be honest and say I would prefer people to get behind the team rather than give Sterling abuse. For one thing, it indicates that people are still bothered by him. The truth is we have a great team now let's enjoy them and just forget all about Sterling, he's yesterday's man to me now.

I wasn't at the game Sunday but aside from the usual greedy bastard chant on one or two occasions, I didn't think Sterling got the rough ride he's had in recent years. All City players were getting whistled and boo'd a lot of the time.

Keep doing it until it doesn't work anymore imo.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35299 on: November 13, 2019, 12:20:28 pm »
The devils club. Controlling the media since records began

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35300 on: November 13, 2019, 12:28:57 pm »
I wasn't at the game Sunday but aside from the usual greedy bastard chant on one or two occasions, I didn't think Sterling got the rough ride he's had in recent years. All City players were getting whistled and boo'd a lot of the time.

Keep doing it until it doesn't work anymore imo.

That's exactly how it was, he didn't get treated much different from the rest of them. Not our fault if the poor little lamb can't cope with a bit of verbal abuse from the stands. I'd say that is something the club or his friends/family should be concerned about if he is letting it all build up inside him that much to be honest.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35301 on: November 13, 2019, 12:36:49 pm »
snip

Hahaha, I assume that was written by the Abu Dhabi PR machine and sent to Ducker to publish? Certainly doesn't read as an impartial piece exploring if his history with Liverpool was in part to blame, but more a complete apologist piece aiming to place the blame anywhere else possible.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35302 on: November 13, 2019, 12:39:08 pm »
an amazing picture

someone actually went to the trouble of printing that shite on paper :lmao

are they a form of subtitle?


Were they for a game played on Halloween?

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35303 on: November 13, 2019, 12:39:19 pm »
Hahaha, I assume that was written by the Abu Dhabi PR machine and sent to Ducker to publish? Certainly doesn't read as an impartial piece exploring if his history with Liverpool was in part to blame, but more a complete apologist piece aiming to place the blame anywhere else possible.

Which kinds of mirrors the piece on his instagram where they seemed to be trying to throw the blame around once more and avoid Sterling taking any responsibility whatsoever.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35304 on: November 13, 2019, 12:39:43 pm »
The PR work has already started with his agent. Sources letting the Telegraph know that the Liverpool fans behaviour is the source of his meltdown. The media just lapping it all up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/13/years-vilification-anfield-exit-may-root-raheem-sterling-meltdown/

The media: "football supporters, if you boo this lad and get on his back it really gets under his skin and can actually affect his game"

Supporters: "oh, ok then, we better not do that"

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35305 on: November 13, 2019, 12:45:22 pm »
Didn't Pep not play him at Anfield at all one year in what was basically a frank admission that he gets rattled in Liverpool. Perhaps Pep is actually the one at fault here if you want to play stupid blame games for what is possibly the most overblown reaction to some booing that I've ever seen?

There's just something a bit off with the football world at the moment. Such extreme reactions and crying about aspects of sport that have happened since they were invented - i.e. winding up the opposition. It's just all so pearl-clutching and hysterical.

It feels a bit like the time a few years back when Spain was a massive soap opera with Pep's Barcelona and Mourinho's Madrid. At one point I thought it was Mourinho who was the sole cause of toxicity but it's becoming quite clear that Pep is more than capable himself of instilling a victim mentality and 'us vs them' shitty attitude that I actually consider far worse than anything Jose has done (eye poking notwithstanding).

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35306 on: November 13, 2019, 12:48:16 pm »
The media: "football supporters, if you boo this lad and get on his back it really gets under his skin and can actually affect his game"

Supporters: "oh, ok then, we better not do that"

that's what makes me laugh about the whole thing. They have seen how petulant and easy to wind up Sterling is over the years, yet Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, or wheover else's fans, just don't think for a second they could wind him up and maybe knock his game off a little bit?  And they think Liverpool fans are terrible for trying to help their team gain an advantage? No wonder atmosphere's at games in the prem are often so shit.

Its like fans cryarsing about Liverpool doing the continental style whistling thing at the oppo, I think that's great, but no, apparently that's Liverpool fans being arseholes  ;D

Perish the though a fanbase tries to help it's team!

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35307 on: November 13, 2019, 12:49:47 pm »
Do you know what is always a winning PR strategy....instead of keeping your trap shut and letting it just die at death (tomorrows chip paper), carry on planting stories about how awfully you are being treated at a football match because you left for a much bigger wage. Winning strategy that.

Oh, and letting us know that booing him is getting to him is the cherry on top. No sirreee bob, we will never do that again now.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35308 on: November 13, 2019, 12:55:20 pm »
Didn't Pep not play him at Anfield at all one year in what was basically a frank admission that he gets rattled in Liverpool.

Yep - he played Gundogan right midfield instead when we beat them 3-0 at Anfield in the CL QF first leg.

Worked out well, that one.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35309 on: November 13, 2019, 01:02:35 pm »
an amazing picture

someone actually went to the trouble of printing that shite on paper :lmao

are they a form of subtitle?
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35310 on: November 13, 2019, 01:05:36 pm »
The PR work has already started with his agent. Sources letting the Telegraph know that the Liverpool fans behaviour is the source of his meltdown. The media just lapping it all up.

Honestly, I don't give a shit about Sterling. I understood why he left, although that doesn't mean I like the circumstances, and moving to a rival (and a Manc rival at that) is always going to go down badly. I was unhappy at the time, but I don't hold any continuing ill will. I basically don't think about him at all. I don't even give a shit about the Gomez thing either. These training ground bust ups happen. Gomez clearly hasn't let it bother him, he's bigger then that (metaphorically and physically). I don't think there needs to be any massive vilification over it. I'm just happy we have got under Sterling (and the rest of City's) skin.

On that same note, that's why I'm more then happy for him to continue getting boo'ed at Anfield like a pantomime villain if that is what puts him off his undoubtedly great game.
 
However, the Telegraph trying to blame LFC for his vilification-with-racial-undertones amongst Little Englanders and the right-wing press is pretty rich, considering those same right-wing rags thankfully don't get a look in in this city, and our population isn't composed of small town Little Englanders (in fact those same rags and Brexit-loving Little Englanders hate us as well).



that's what makes me laugh about the whole thing. They have seen how petulant and easy to wind up Sterling is over the years, yet Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, or wheover else's fans, just don't think for a second they could wind him up and maybe knock his game off a little bit?  And they think Liverpool fans are terrible for trying to help their team gain an advantage? No wonder atmosphere's at games in the prem are often so shit.

Its like fans cryarsing about Liverpool doing the continental style whistling thing at the oppo, I think that's great, but no, apparently that's Liverpool fans being arseholes  ;D

Perish the though a fanbase tries to help it's team!

It's mad isn't it? I still remember City cryarsing (well there's a change!) about us boo'ing and whistling when we played them in the potential title-decider of 2014, saying it was 'disrespectful, even after they had laid wreaths at the Hillsoborough memorial'. Without realising it had nothing to do with them and that it was, and remains, simply a way to put opponents off their game at Anfield and give us the advantage.

I just put it down to a small-time mentality, without enough European experience. But five years of Champions League football later and they are still crying about it.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35311 on: November 13, 2019, 01:06:30 pm »
The media: "football supporters, if you boo this lad and get on his back it really gets under his skin and can actually affect his game"

Supporters: "oh, ok then, we better not do that"

Also the media: Remember all those terrible, baiting stories written about Raheem Sterling.

The media: Have you seen Sterling’s gun tattoo?

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35312 on: November 13, 2019, 01:10:07 pm »
Even the boos are artificial

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« Reply #35313 on: November 13, 2019, 01:12:38 pm »
The PR work has already started with his agent. Sources letting the Telegraph know that the Liverpool fans behaviour is the source of his meltdown. The media just lapping it all up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/13/years-vilification-anfield-exit-may-root-raheem-sterling-meltdown/

Blimey, how powerful are we?  We can get a certain tabloid newspaper that is hated by Liverpool, and hates Liverpool back, to write hit pieces about him, and get a fanbase that pretty much despises us to racially abuse him.  Incredible.

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« Reply #35314 on: November 13, 2019, 01:13:28 pm »
The point which needs to be made is, how come people don't go on about the treatment Milner gets from City fans? He get's the same abuse, yet no one ever mentions that when its Milner in the firing line. I will be honest and say I would prefer people to get behind the team rather than give Sterling abuse. For one thing, it indicates that people are still bothered by him. The truth is we have a great team now let's enjoy them and just forget all about Sterling, he's yesterday's man to me now.

I dunno Jill. I know what you mean like, but we clearly get to Sterling to really affect his game, or his attitude. Once he displays that he gets lit on because it clearly pushes his buttons. I'm certainly not bothered about him, but its great to see him lose his shit, its a case of he is more bothered by us than us with him. We're in his head it seems, and pieces of crap like that media thing above only confirm it.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35315 on: November 13, 2019, 01:13:47 pm »
I like Guardiola only for one thing; for not joining ManUtd.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35316 on: November 13, 2019, 01:16:08 pm »
He is still a very good manager. He will go back to being likable again as soon as he leaves Manchester City.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #35317 on: November 13, 2019, 01:18:23 pm »
The journo realises he writes for the Torygraph yeah?
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« Reply #35318 on: November 13, 2019, 01:18:27 pm »
He'd go to Juventus to clean up everything there as no one else can compete financially with them.

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« Reply #35319 on: November 13, 2019, 01:19:20 pm »
He is still a very good manager. He will go back to being likable again as soon as he leaves Manchester City.

No he won't he's a fucking dickhead of the highest order.
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