Topic: Pro Evolution Soccer 2012

[SMD]

Where is it £17.99 mate?

It's not now But it will a few months down the line, I'm prepared to wait.

[jackh]

Gets better with every play this - and it's making me think that Thomas Müller would be a cracking long-term replacement for Dirk on our right/attack!

[SangPutride]

Gets better with every play this - and it's making me think that Thomas Müller would be a cracking long-term replacement for Dirk on our right/attack!

Bayern wouldn't even sell Gomez with the player wanting to leave and them not necessarily needing him one year ago. No way they'd sell one of the brightest prospects in German football (after Özil/Goetze/Hummels). But I agree that he'd be pefrect and even is comparable to Dirk in many (positive) ways.

Can't wait till Thursday. After playing the Demo nonstop and starting a new Master League in 2011 I'm deffo gonna get this and not FIFA.

[skooma]

Initial thoughts after having played the proper game with a mate for an hour:

A lot faster than the demo. You need to put it back to -1 to have the same pace.
Keepers are worse than the demo, and Im on top player.
Passing is easier, defending is hard.
Andy Carroll is everything we want him to be in real life. So good in the air, a dream on set pieces.
The easiest way to score seems to be by crosses and headers. Easier than the demo.
A lot more fluid than the demo.
Shooting is a dream.

Played 2 games against him, me LFC him first Real then Barca. Bear in mind I've been playing the demo non stop since it came out and it was his first go. He beat me 3-2 with Real and tonked me 5-1 with Barca.

Played 2 games against him with LFC vs Milan, beat him 2-1 and 4-2.

An annoying thing. When you do your formation and everything, and the game finishes and you put play again, guess what...Nothing is saved. You need to start all over. So annoying. I supposed you need to edit the teams in the main menu, but still its ridiculous.

All in all though, great game and great fun. Very fluid and very much like the old PES in the sense where you want to keep playing.

Going to start a league now, will give you feedback after a couple of hours play.

How do you have the full version? It doesn't come out for a couple weeks.

I just read the wiki page. How do we yanks get it first? That makes no sense.

[Brentieke]

How do you have the full version? It doesn't come out for a couple weeks.

I just read the wiki page. How do we yanks get it first? That makes no sense.

I live in Beirut, it came out here on Monday and so did Fifa.

[jackh]

I live in Beirut, it came out here on Monday and so did Fifa.

Aren't Blu-Ray region free...so anyone could order it now?

[Brentieke]

Aren't Blu-Ray region free...so anyone could order it now?

Yep. In fact, if you go on amazon.fr it says it's coming out tomorrow in France.

You may as well order it from there instaed of waiting 2 weeks.

[jackh]

Yep. In fact, if you go on amazon.fr it says it's coming out tomorrow in France.

You may as well order it from there instaed of waiting 2 weeks.

Will there be additional import charges and high delivery costs?  Returns policy on items purchased from abroad?

[Brentieke]

Will there be additional import charges and high delivery costs?  Returns policy on items purchased from abroad?

No clue mate.

[SangPutride]

Will there be additional import charges and high delivery costs?  Returns policy on items purchased from abroad?

Amazon should be selling it. It's out here tomorrow, too. So there shouldn't be any concerns about return policy.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PES-2012-Evolution-Soccer-germany/dp/B005G170OC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1317214165&sr=8-10

But then again u'll need to patch it for english commentary.

Just checked on PES 2011 and there u don't need to patch it for english menus, so if u don't care about the commentary u're good to go me thinks. If it's the same as on PES 2011 of course.

[Brentieke]

Dont know about commentary, I bought this game on the 26th of Septemeber (its got Ronaldo and Neymar on the cover) and I've got the full comentary and menus in English.

No patch needed.

[Lawnmowerman]

Am i the only one having issues with players sprinting on the ball, suddenly just stopping?

[SangPutride]

Dont know about commentary, I bought this game on the 26th of Septemeber (its got Ronaldo and Neymar on the cover) and I've got the full comentary and menus in English.

No patch needed.

That's because u got the U.S. Version. It'll be cheaper and save to order it inside of the E.U. for someone from the U.K. Plus if u import outside of the E.U. u might have to pay additional charges and wait longer.

September 27th
North America
Middle America
South America

September 29th
Austria
Cyprus
Germany
France
Greece
Israel
Italy
Portugal
Russia
Spain
Switzerland
Turkey

October 13th
Czech Republic
Netherlands
Middle East
Poland
Scandinavia
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Africa
Australia
New Zealand

October 14th
Ireland
United Kingdom

[lionel_messias]

<----Be Warned fellas if you buy an non-uk version you will not be able to use newly created option files by the likes of WENB or others for 2012, there is a code on each game on Europe/US etc is different from UK units...but you can import option file data from 2011 from your hard drive.

[Brentieke]

Playing with the camera on blimp. It's like watching Barca at the Nou camp from high up. It's great though as you dont need the radar (its not even there in fact), it really allows you to see everything thats going on and with the ability to make your players run off the ball, it opens up new boundaries.

Set pieces are fantastic. Adam to Carroll is a dream!

[jackh]

<----Be Warned fellas if you buy an non-uk version you will not be able to use newly created option files by the likes of WENB or others for 2012, there is a code on each game on Europe/US etc is different from UK units...but you can import option file data from 2011 from your hard drive.

That's why I was asking about the return policy

[SangPutride]

Playing for 4 straight hours, store sold it one day early.

Online Name is SangPutride, feel free to add me.

[NuncaCaminarásSolo]

<----Be Warned fellas if you buy an non-uk version you will not be able to use newly created option files by the likes of WENB or others for 2012, there is a code on each game on Europe/US etc is different from UK units...but you can import option file data from 2011 from your hard drive.

Got a question along those lines: If I buy the US version, will I only be able to play people from North America?

[Brentieke]

Playing for 4 straight hours, store sold it one day early.

Online Name is SangPutride, feel free to add me.

How are you liking it mate?

Last night's the first time I really couldnt stop playing. Just one more game I kept saying to myself.

Love just how many different goals you can score. In a few games yesterday, I scored a 30 yarder into the top corner with Downing, a lofted through ball that Henderson ran into an finished, a bullet header from an Adam corner by Carroll, a diagonal daisy cutter by Gerrard etc. There really is no set way to score against the computer and it's immensely rewarding when you create a one on one chance.

[jackh]

How are you liking it mate?

Last night's the first time I really couldnt stop playing. Just one more game I kept saying to myself.

Love just how many different goals you can score. In a few games yesterday, I scored a 30 yarder into the top corner with Downing, a lofted through ball that Henderson ran into an finished, a bullet header from an Adam corner by Carroll, a diagonal daisy cutter by Gerrard etc. There really is no set way to score against the computer and it's immensely rewarding when you create a one on one chance.

Any chance you'd be able to post up some of the player face shots for those not previously done with proper faces - i.e. Carroll, Suarez, Henderson, Adam, Kelly, Flanagan, Spearing, etc...?

[Brentieke]

Any chance you'd be able to post up some of the player face shots for those not previously done with proper faces - i.e. Carroll, Suarez, Henderson, Adam, Kelly, Flanagan, Spearing, etc...?

No clue how mate, and net is so slow here in Beirut it would take me weeks!

[SangPutride]

Any chance you'd be able to post up some of the player face shots for those not previously done with proper faces - i.e. Carroll, Suarez, Henderson, Adam, Kelly, Flanagan, Spearing, etc...?

Spearing, Flanagan and Robinson aren't really recognizeable. They seem to have updated Adam a bit, but still not close enough to the original, same with Enrique. Suarez has the wrong hairstyle, but his face seems like the real one.
However, they did new faces for Henderson, Carroll, Kelly and really updated some of the older ones (Lucas, Kuyt) and they look really good (Plus the commentator knows the names for our whole first team). Don't really care that much though, cause the first good patch from pesedit will completly overhaul the game.

[Tomaldinho]

I thought PES was the official game of LFC? Back to Merseyside red?

[crasher1in]

Wow those faces look amazing!! Kelly stands out.

[SangPutride]

I thought PES was the official game of LFC? Back to Merseyside red?

Think that was 2010 only, 2011 had MSR, too. Still no problem, pesedit should have the patches up witthin no time.

One thing that annoys me are the new "features" of Master League online. U don't pay per game anymore, but u need to pay your players. U can choose between 10,20 and 50 matches payment. Might be more realistic, but I can't buy one fuckin' player, as I have only enough to pay the players wages and u don't earn enough playing games. Need to mention that I only have the standard Master League team + Suarez and Götze. Hope they'll do something there.

Was thinking about a team like this for ML online:

---------Striker--------------
------------Suarez------------
Hazard----------------Götze
---------DM-----Gerrard-----
Enrique--------------------RB
-----Agger--Hummels------
------------Pepe-------------

Still can't think of a lone striker, need a pacy one, but not too expensive ragarding wages and everything (Carroll/Hulk/Falcao/Cavani). DM I might just go for Lucas. Dream RB would be Lahm, but I could never afford that.

[Lawnmowerman]

Ugh......... another two weeks till this comes out. I dont think i'm going to be able to hold out. Fifas out tomorrow and i enjoy that too, but i dont want to buy two games

[jackh]

Ugh......... another two weeks till this comes out. I dont think i'm going to be able to hold out. Fifas out tomorrow and i enjoy that too, but i dont want to buy two games

Buy FIFA and return it?

[Lawnmowerman]

Buy FIFA and return it?

I'll end up sticking with it though. I'll get stuck into career mode and wont stop playing it. I'll hold out. Am gonna pick up Fifa at crimbo

[Zlen]

Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 review: Gamespot
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/pro-evolution-soccer-2012/review.html?tag=games%3Bgame_title%3B2

[SangPutride]

Anybody up for some friendlies online? Just let me know, SangPutride is my Username. U can send me a pm for icq/skype contact data.

Anybody keen to share their strats and Master League online teams yet?

[Ben_JP]

These 'ere Pesedit patches and ting; do you need to have a flashed 360 to use them, or do they work with legit consoles?

[skooma]

These 'ere Pesedit patches and ting; do you need to have a flashed 360 to use them, or do they work with legit consoles?

Mostly for PC

Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 review: Gamespot
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/pro-evolution-soccer-2012/review.html?tag=games%3Bgame_title%3B2

One of the cons they noted was a lack of new game modes.


...It's a football game. What do you want? It has a manager mode, cups and tourneys, and exhibition. What else could you possibly add?

Hell, even FIFA doesn't have a proper way to set up international tournaments. You have to manually make a team list.

[SangPutride]

Mostly for PC

One of the cons they noted was a lack of new game modes.


...It's a football game. What do you want? It has a manager mode, cups and tourneys, and exhibition. What else could you possibly add?

Hell, even FIFA doesn't have a proper way to set up international tournaments. You have to manually make a team list.

And to add to that they added some depth to the existing modes, too. U can now respond to players that have problems (e.g. want another squad number, are exahusted, want to play more...). Shame Stevie is always pissed of, cuz I won't give him the number 10 lol. And stuff like your co trainer explaining opposing teams tactics to you, and so many more stuff in the Master League.

[lionel_messias]

Just received retail code today, not had any time with it yet. First goal conceded Skrtel OG, scored a curler with Suarez. Seems springier than demo 2 and LFC's off the ball AI movement really good.

[Lawnmowerman]

These 'ere Pesedit patches and ting; do you need to have a flashed 360 to use them, or do they work with legit consoles?

Anyone got a definite answer for this question? Someone who played pes 2011 with the patches on an unflashed xbox?

[JasonF]

Anyone got a definite answer for this question? Someone who played pes 2011 with the patches on an unflashed xbox?

Yes, you can use Option Files / Edit Data made by other people on an unmodified Xbox 360.

No, you cannot use the more sophisticated Patches (requires a JTAG console / burning your own disc with the games internal .img files being modified) on an unmodified Xbox 360.

[Gobias Industries]

Can't wait for this. I was taken by the FIFA demo and bought that shit. Really, really did not like the game at all. One of my favourite things about Pro is editing the teams so the kits look decent (although I might get one of the files from someone else as they do a better job) and editing players' stats from pesstatsdatabase. I was still doing that as recently as about two weeks ago.

[jackh]

Can't wait for this. I was taken by the FIFA demo and bought that shit. Really, really did not like the game at all. One of my favourite things about Pro is editing the teams so the kits look decent (although I might get one of the files from someone else as they do a better job) and editing players' stats from pesstatsdatabase. I was still doing that as recently as about two weeks ago.

I've always found it so frustrating that the site (pesstatsdatabase) don't produce and released their own edit file - I tend to download the WENB file to provide kits, squad updates, etc, and then update the stats according to pesstats... but it's a lot of work (given that another WENB update is required in February and that this wipes your edited player data).

Also, if you've not got the time to update the whole of, say the Premier League then the game can become unplayable to an extent - pesstatsdatabase stats maybe don't give consideration to the weighting of attributes brought about by Konami's annual 'updating' of the game - it distorts the realistic differences between the top sides and the weakers ones.

Always prefer pesstats for the sides me and a couple of mates use on the community mode though - much better than Konami's defaults.

I long for the day when I see the PESSTATSDATABASE OPTIONS FILE announced!

[Lawnmowerman]

Yes, you can use Option Files / Edit Data made by other people on an unmodified Xbox 360.

No, you cannot use the more sophisticated Patches (requires a JTAG console / burning your own disc with the games internal .img files being modified) on an unmodified Xbox 360.

Cheers pal. What would the more sphisticated patches consist of?

[Brentieke]

So been playing this game for more than a week straight.

I think the postives have been well explained by myself and other people. It's a world apart from PES 11. It's taken the best bits of that game and improved on the negatives.

AI is a world apat from 11. Defensively and offensively. However, I find myself still getting frustrated by some lack of movement at times. The good thing is you can use the R3 button to make your players run. Without it, you'll be alot more frustrated.

Refs are better and more importantly, you dont have replays after every foul. Also, you no longer get caught by a player if you've run past him at every time. Once you're though on goal, if you're a speedy player, the center back will struggle to get back and stop you.

It's very very hard to score 1 on 1s, nigh on impossible. Maybe it's my technique, I dont know but I really struggle to put the ball in the net on 1 on 1s which is very frustrating as it's so hard to create a one on one  chance you feel very rewared when you have that chance.

Passing is a bit pingy to be honest but thats because I have a high level of assisted passing.I tried lowering it and it stops being so pingy. Set pieces are great and theres no one sure way of scoring.

I played a season on pro and got to 3rd a few poitns off 1st. Now on top player and am hovering aroudn the top 6. Definately a very hard game at the top level.

You guys will enjoy this. Its not as good as the best PES of all times, but it's certainly the best one in years.