Topic: Egypt's day of revolt-Mubarak resigns government as well. Protests start again

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

This is how the interior police tried to take away protesters, top secret document from the interior minister office.

[firing squad]

being able to read Arabic would help a lot.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Second part

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

being able to read Arabic would help a lot.

Too many words to translate right now especially with the internet being too slow.

Would do it later if the net isn't cut.

[SMD]

being able to read Arabic would help a lot.

It's too long to scan, let alone translate. If no one does it by this evening I'll give it a go.

[RedRabbit]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-31-2011/let-s-go-exile----hosni-mubarak

Jon Stewart advising Hosni on exile options...

How can you see that corkboy?
Says not available in your country to me and I'm presuming your in Cork 

[Yorkykopite]

They are police thugs being paid by Mubarak, they are trying to beat the protesters in the Tahrir square.

This is surely right. We tend to forget that even police states develop profound loyalties. They may be based on graft and corruption and nepotism but they are strong nonetheless. Just as in Romania or Argentina or Iraq there are people who will lose everything once the strongman goes. 

[_Lfc_]

It's kicked right off now. Police on camelback charging protesters.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

It's kicked right off now. Police on camelback charging protesters.

You're two hours late

[_Lfc_]

I know haha

[_Lfc_]

crazy scenes

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

At least 17 have been killed today in the Tahrir Square.

[_Lfc_]

Its crazy that the army are nowere to be seen and its just civil war basically.

[ScouserFreddy]

Its crazy that the army are nowere to be seen and its just civil war basically.

the army can't take sides

[Monkey Red]

If Mubarak doesn´t call back his henchmen on the camels and horses he´s going to get fucking lynched! Fucking pricks should sack and admit defeat, work for a new Egypt where everyone has a say.

[LFC_Top_Luca]

If Mubarak doesn´t call back his henchmen on the camels and horses he´s going to get fucking lynched! Fucking pricks should sack and admit defeat, work for a new Egypt where everyone has a say.

I think that the situation won't settle by this  !
He has to step down or it will be pretty fucked.

[_Lfc_]

the army can't take sides

But they need to be at least in the middle of opposing crowds surely??? theyre just standing watching it

[_Lfc_]

Is that a person theyre carrying away ?

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

New PM Ahmed Shafik is threatening to quit after what happened today in Tahrir Sq. He said yesterday in a televisied interview that no one will ever be harmed at that area and seeing what Mubarak did today he is outraged that his orders weren't taken by the Mubarak thugs.

If that happens then thats the end, surely.

[Corkboy]

How can you see that corkboy?
Says not available in your country to me and I'm presuming your in Cork 

Go here.

[LFC_Top_Luca]

New PM Ahmed Shafik is threatening to quit after what happened today in Tahrir Sq. He said yesterday in a televisied interview that no one will ever be harmed at that area and seeing what Mubarak did today he is outraged that his orders weren't taken by the Mubarak thugs.

If that happens then thats the end, surely.

I don't think so , Although we saw this program together in one room but I understood something different , I think thats only a speech to get a path into the People's hearts No more No Less !

[Kiko Narváez]

Wow, what a week, in a week I turned from a student to a security guard along with all my family and all my neighbors.

I'm safe right now, internet cut affected me badly, but its okay, just knew about El Ninny to Chelsea 

Welcome back Omar nawaret ya basha hamdella 3a salamtak

[Kiko Narváez]

Egyptian Youth proved in this week, that NO ONE can ever threaten Egypt.

LONG LIVE EGYPT

Good to see all if you back. Hamdellah 3am salama

[Kiko Narváez]

Do u think they will cut off the Internet again?

[LFC_Top_Luca]

The streets are now much safer than ever although people are frightened but I think the People are doing very good jobs at guarding

[El Campeador]

internet cut affected me badly, but its okay, just knew about El Ninny to Chelsea 

Hela hela hamdullilah 3 salama.

Brentie had a laugh at your expense

[LFC_Top_Luca]

Do u think they will cut off the Internet again?

Maybe if the Protesters don't go back home again and if they increase in numbers !

[El Campeador]

This is how the interior police tried to take away protesters, top secret document from the interior minister office.

What the fuck!

How did these leak?

[LFC_Top_Luca]

What the fuck!

How did these leak?

The Police Departments were set on fire by some people , maybe they got these papers from there !

[Wendy Baby]

Its crazy that the army are nowere to be seen and its just civil war basically.

They are there, who allowed the state forces to pass through their lines. AlJazeera has been broadcasting nobody got through the tank cordon around the square without showing I.D.Also, who is using water cannon on the demonstrators? By allowing the state thugs to attack the protesters the army has shown its hand, its taken the side of its Commander in Chief.

[JoeTwerp]

What the fuck!

How did these leak?

what does it say?

[killerH]

What the fuck!

How did these leak?

Looks very intersting, would shatter any remaining credibility for the Govt and the thuggish police in Egypt. I was utterly baffled that there is Pro-Mubarak protesters!

 I'd love to sit down and read it but unfortunately for me, 15 years living in the UK means that I now have the reading ability of a 6 year old. I could read it and translate but that wouldn't get completed until the 2012 Olympics!

[Wendy Baby]

New PM Ahmed Shafik is threatening to quit after what happened today in Tahrir Sq. He said yesterday in a televisied interview that no one will ever be harmed at that area and seeing what Mubarak did today he is outraged that his orders weren't taken by the Mubarak thugs.

If that happens then thats the end, surely.

A very honourable man Mr Shafik  he must have hated ordering all those deaths and torture sessions when he was in charge of the security services. Its a wonder such and angel has ever become so wealthy eh!

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Thanks for all those telling me welcome back, I missed you as well.

A very honourable man Mr Shafik  he must have hated ordering all those deaths and torture sessions when he was in charge of the security services. Its a wonder such and angel has ever become so wealthy eh!

Shafik is outraged that his credibility will be lost, he wants to be seen in the history books as the person who steadied the ship and he made it clear on the interviews yesterday, thats why he is threatening to quit.

[Alphaville]

Yeah, my capacity to read Arabic isn't what it used to be but from scanning those two pages, I don't see how Mubarak will be able to save face (assuming those are genuine, of course).

I'm really happy to have all our Egyptian posters back, safe and in one piece.

Today's turn towards increased violence is worrisome.  Hopefully, it's nothing more than the final spasms of a dying regime rather than a harbinger of a civil war.

I thought the camels were a wonderful touch.  At least no-one can accuse Mubarak and his cronies of not selling Egyptian stereotypes to their western audience.

[Corkboy]

Too many words to translate right now especially with the internet being too slow.

Would do it later if the net isn't cut.

It's too long to scan, let alone translate. If no one does it by this evening I'll give it a go.

What the fuck!

How did these leak?

Looks very intersting, would shatter any remaining credibility for the Govt and the thuggish police in Egypt. I was utterly baffled that there is Pro-Mubarak protesters!

 I'd love to sit down and read it but unfortunately for me, 15 years living in the UK means that I now have the reading ability of a 6 year old. I could read it and translate but that wouldn't get completed until the 2012 Olympics!

Yeah, my capacity to read Arabic isn't what it used to be but from scanning those two pages, I don't see how Mubarak will be able to save face (assuming those are genuine, of course).

Can any of you fuckers speak Arabic? Just give us the general gist of it, please!

I'm really happy to have all our Egyptian posters back, safe and in one piece.

Didn't know we had so many but agreed.

[LFC_Top_Luca]

Can any of you fuckers speak Arabic? Just give us the general gist of it, please!

All Of us can speak arabic 

[Yorkykopite]

Can any of you fuckers speak Arabic? Just give us the general gist of it, please!

  Emperor's clothes!

[El Campeador]

Can any of you fuckers speak Arabic? Just give us the general gist of it, please!

Oh Mr fucking linguistics professor losing his top

It's basically going over underhanded tactics to quell the rebellion and keep Husni's govt around and in power. I can't be fucked to translate it word for word, so I used Google to find the story in English, which you should get used to doing yourself.

Police and security agents infiltrated the demonstrators in Egypt, while popular committees are organized to protect the neighborhoods. Thugs are paid to cause unrest among the demonstrators. Rumors are launched to provoke disorder and panic among the protesters.

    * Secret documents from the Egyptian Ministry of Interior, revealed a plan established by Hosni Mubarak to break the revolt led by the people claiming his departure from power.
    * These documents also reveal the involvement of elements of the police in acts of vandalism experienced in many regions of Egypt, in order to create a mess with the help of militias composed of habitual criminals and thugs handsomely paid.
    * These documents, published by the Qatari TV channel Al Jazeera yesterday, of which Ennahar holds a copy, reveals a diabolical plan to divert the Egyptian revolt of its initial objectives and to ensure sustainability of the regime in place for three decades. This latter aims to infiltrate the protesters, spread rumors and cause disorder in addition to acts of vandalism. Rumors such as the one on prisoners who would have fled prisons and whose numbers would be impressive to create a climate of fear among the protesters; women police officers, posing as simple citizens, call TV and radios stations to lament about the lack of security and ask for protection against attacks on people and property.
    *
    * Moreover, opponents and party leaders are watched; their phones tapped, in addition to the cutoff of communications like the Internet from Friday morning 6 am.
    * The document also reveals the Mubarak regime's plan to empty all police centers of their prisoners, weapons and ammunition. The prisoners are transferred to the central prison and police officers in plain clothes, took their places in prisons, posing as prisoners.
    * By these evil means as infiltration of demonstrators, replacement of prisoners by police and security officers, and especially rumors, the regime tends to break the revolt led for nearly a week by the Egyptian people claiming the departure of the Rais and the change of regime.

http://www.ennaharonline.com/en/international/5685.html

[Wendy Baby]

Thanks for all those telling me welcome back, I missed you as well.
Shafik is outraged that his credibility will be lost, he wants to be seen in the history books as the person who steadied the ship and he made it clear on the interviews yesterday, thats why he is threatening to quit.

Haven't heard this on either the BBC or Aljazeera but even if its correct what credibility can the past head of a tyrannical security service have?

On the leaked document Aljazeera must be sitting on it, no mention of it today at all.