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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3520 on: February 7, 2013, 02:37:21 pm »
Don't even try.. Skrtel struggles in new system and vs big men.. and Agger is flawless don't you know.
What the fuck is the point in this exaggeration?It's tiresome and irritating.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3521 on: February 7, 2013, 02:37:34 pm »
....and Agger is flawless don't you know.

Sorry to pick on you, but you neatly illustrate the problem we have on many of the RAWK threads. There's no attempt to engage honestly with the other poster's point of view. In fact the opposite. The other bloke's point of view is caricatured beyond recognition. It just kills any sensible debate.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3522 on: February 7, 2013, 02:42:20 pm »
Skrtel's long passes are underrated, no one ever mentions them, he's played some magnificent diagonal balls this season, reminiscent of the ones Enrique seems to love launching into Suarez's direction.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3523 on: February 7, 2013, 02:53:50 pm »
Sorry to pick on you, but you neatly illustrate the problem we have on many of the RAWK threads. There's no attempt to engage honestly with the other poster's point of view. In fact the opposite. The other bloke's point of view is caricatured beyond recognition. It just kills any sensible debate.

Fair enough. My point is, most people on here seem to think that Skrtel is kinda of brainless chicken and every mistake he does gets mentioned while he ain't that terrible after all. I don't say Agger is worse or better defender, I like them both and I think they shouldn't have been divided but that's why manager is here for.

Most things Skrtel does wrong get mentioned while the good things don't and with Agger it's exactly opposite.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3524 on: February 7, 2013, 02:56:34 pm »
If you read the thread you'll see that's not true. Plenty of posters only too eager to point out Agger's mistakes.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3525 on: February 7, 2013, 03:06:56 pm »
Anywhichwaytheycan ;)

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3526 on: February 7, 2013, 05:45:19 pm »
Add to that, up until about 5 pages ago, people were proclaiming Agger and Skrtel to be the best CB pair in the league, not that one was incredible and the other a donkey at all.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3527 on: February 7, 2013, 05:56:56 pm »
Watch it if you're able to mate. Agger's performance is brilliant. The duel between him and Aguero is a major theme in the game. Two of the best players in the Premier League head to head.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3528 on: February 7, 2013, 06:41:05 pm »
Add to that, up until about 5 pages ago, people were proclaiming Agger and Skrtel to be the best CB pair in the league, not that one was incredible and the other a donkey at all.

They are not donkeys... They are a very good set of Cbs. I really dont see what the f*** carra is doping among the 11 starters. IMO Skrtel has not been as bad as some people state - he has had a bad game or two which Dagger also have had.... Skrtel / Dagger should be first choice when fit.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3529 on: February 7, 2013, 06:45:15 pm »
I get the feeling that manager knows who he wants and that he will bring somebody in
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3530 on: February 7, 2013, 07:17:24 pm »
I get the feeling that manager knows who he wants and that he will bring somebody in
I think he will want a more physical, aerially dominant centre half to play with either of them and I think he would be right. Both are a little lightweight but with a dominant figure would be better.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3531 on: February 7, 2013, 07:21:39 pm »
Given the retirement of Carra and uncertainty surrounding Coates, we could easily see two, maybe three centre backs coming in this summer.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3532 on: February 7, 2013, 07:25:32 pm »
I think he will want a more physical, aerially dominant centre half to play with either of them and I think he would be right. Both are a little lightweight but with a dominant figure would be better.

I'd love for us to go for someone in the mould of Kompany or a prime Vidic..  although you hardly find them two a penny down Lidl.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3533 on: February 7, 2013, 07:33:58 pm »
They are not donkeys... They are a very good set of Cbs. I really dont see what the f*** carra is doping among the 11 starters. IMO Skrtel has not been as bad as some people state - he has had a bad game or two which Dagger also have had.... Skrtel / Dagger should be first choice when fit.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3534 on: February 7, 2013, 07:35:44 pm »
Definately need a new CB when the summer transfer window opens. Hopefully it will be an experienced defender with leadership qualities.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3535 on: February 7, 2013, 07:49:25 pm »
What always shocks me about Skrtel (even more so this season) is that for a big, scary looking guy, he isn't half soft. He gets pushed around and beaten in the air so easily. He was very good last season, I hope he gets back to that soon.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3536 on: February 7, 2013, 09:52:18 pm »
I'd love for us to go for someone in the mould of Kompany or a prime Vidic..  although you hardly find them two a penny down Lidl.
Funnily enough though, they are two players we could have signed at 7m a pop.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3537 on: February 7, 2013, 09:55:28 pm »
Hmm, we got gazumped on Vidic. And ended up with Agger for less.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3538 on: February 7, 2013, 10:24:24 pm »
Hmm, we got gazumped on Vidic. And ended up with Agger for less.
How did we get gazumped?

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3539 on: February 7, 2013, 10:52:01 pm »
I think he will want a more physical, aerially dominant centre half to play with either of them and I think he would be right. Both are a little lightweight but with a dominant figure would be better.

While that wouldn't surprise me I'm still not sure that Rodgers is keen to get a central defender who will automatically go in ahead of Danny or Martin.

To me Skrtel has looked vulnerable or sloppy at times but on the whole I hadn't considered him poor.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Rogers continuing his trend of dropping a regular senior player and giving them a dressing down in public every few months.
It is an intelligent piece of man management that keeps the players giving as close to 100% as possible.

When I look at the squad at the moment I see a number of experienced pros;
Downing, Enrique, Skrtel, Reina who can't be sure that they will keep their place in the team past the summer despite the fact that they may or may not be playing well.
We also have a larger cluster of younger players where not a single one has properly nailed a place in the team, all are close, some very but none 'secure', all desperately hungry, scrapping to make it, raising their collective level.

The only players who I see as fully secure are Agger, Johnson, Gerrard, Lucas and Suarez and not only are they our best players but they are also absolute winners and self driven men. Even when Gerrard wasn't at his best Rogers didn't drop him, instead he trusted in Steven to drag himself back into form.

For the likes of Downing, Enrique and Henderson he lit a fire under them, showed them where the door was and let them know in no uncertain terms that they would be marching out there, that he already intended to get rid of them, he had made his mind up. And we know how that story is going now, all in great form, but still on their toes.

I can see Martin reacting in a similar way, I can see him enjoying a surge back to form in the last 10 games of the season and becoming a rock again. I can't help getting the feeling that Martin needs this kind of treatment to shake him up and get the most out of him. Unlike Agger who I feel due to his personality will gee himself up and get back to his best.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3540 on: February 7, 2013, 11:41:29 pm »
What do you mean how did we get gazumped, AWWUC, surely common knowledge? We were in for Vidic, all looked sorted till United bid more.
As was the story for many of Rafa's preferred signings. In this case though, happier with the player we ended up with.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3541 on: February 8, 2013, 06:30:24 am »
What do you mean how did we get gazumped, AWWUC, surely common knowledge? We were in for Vidic, all looked sorted till United bid more.
As was the story for many of Rafa's preferred signings. In this case though, happier with the player we ended up with.

would be happy to have both, but then we would have missed out on the hilarity of vidic's performances against torres!!!
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3542 on: February 8, 2013, 07:25:15 am »
Agger over Vidic, fuck me we really are deluded. We seem to think we've got the best goalkeeper (that's quietened down), centre backs, defensive midfielder and striker in the world half the time on here.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3543 on: February 8, 2013, 08:00:08 am »
What do you mean how did we get gazumped, AWWUC, surely common knowledge? We were in for Vidic, all looked sorted till United bid more.
As was the story for many of Rafa's preferred signings. In this case though, happier with the player we ended up with.
I thought we went for Vidic the season after we signed Agger?
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3544 on: February 8, 2013, 08:52:53 am »
Agger over Vidic, fuck me we really are deluded. We seem to think we've got the best goalkeeper (that's quietened down), centre backs, defensive midfielder and striker in the world half the time on here.

I'd have him over Vidic now but, in his pomp Vidic was better.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3545 on: February 8, 2013, 08:55:24 am »
I thought we went for Vidic the season after we signed Agger?

I recall it th way 5th Benitle explained it too. To rub insult into injury, United did it to us concerning Cristiano Ronaldo too whereas Arsenal did it to us for Walcott.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3546 on: February 8, 2013, 09:08:32 am »
Nothing deluded about what I wrote, Mr_Myagi.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3547 on: February 8, 2013, 01:08:07 pm »
I thought we went for Vidic the season after we signed Agger?

They both moved to England in the same Transfer Window.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3548 on: February 8, 2013, 01:17:27 pm »
To be fair, back then, had you offered me Agger or Vidic I'd have picked Agger, mainly because I knew a bit about him, and how highly he was rated.


With the benefit of hindsight though....

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3549 on: February 8, 2013, 01:18:10 pm »
They both moved to England in the same Transfer Window.
So was Agger backup to Vidic?

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3550 on: February 8, 2013, 01:38:14 pm »
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Agger: Why I declined Brondby pay 7th Feb 2013

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/agger-why-i-declined-brondby-pay

Daniel Agger has revealed why he turned down a payment owed to him from former club Brondy.

Liverpool's No.5 arrived at Anfield in 2006 from the Danish club and they are currently suffering from financial problems.

Brondby had been ordered to offer a lump sum to all current and former players as a result of failing to pay supplementary holiday pay, pensions and other benefits since 2004.

However, the Denmark captain has refused the payment as a mark of respect to his old club.

"I am not going to claim any money from the club," said Agger.

"The club is in trouble and needs help. And I want to help. I hope a lot of other people are interested in helping too.

"Brondby are an important club, not just in football, but also for a lot of people in the local community.

"It is a huge organisation with a huge network. You can tell by the amount of people showing up to the games.

"I hope a lot of players will review their decision to claim the money. It won't be good for anyone if Brondby are not to be found in the best Danish division."

Much kudos to him.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3551 on: February 8, 2013, 01:41:09 pm »
Don't know if it'll go against the owners policy but I really think with Carra's retirement, its imperative that the new CB that comes in is one with some decent experience- like 200 odd games at the top level. A Gary Cahill type signing would be good.
Doesn't seem like Rodgers has much faith in Coates, so its quite crucial that good competition is brought in for the CB positions.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3552 on: February 8, 2013, 01:42:47 pm »
Anywhichwaytheycan ;)
;D  don't you mean any,which, way, they,,can?
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3553 on: February 8, 2013, 01:45:16 pm »
How did we get gazumped?

United outbid us by a couple of million and then offered him far better wages than we could have. Plus once they came into the race, its quite likely the player would have preferred a move to UTD than Liverpool. We got Agger though so no complaints. He's never reached the peak that Vidic did, but is still a top CB and is, and will continue to be an extremely valuable player with his natural style quite well suited to the tactics of the manager.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3554 on: February 8, 2013, 05:27:32 pm »
Much kudos to him.

In all fairness those summer bonuses are pennies for Agger. Nice bit to read nevertheless.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3555 on: February 8, 2013, 05:52:10 pm »
In all fairness those summer bonuses are pennies for Agger. Nice bit to read nevertheless.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3556 on: February 8, 2013, 07:48:40 pm »
Now i've known footballers invest in many things, but i've never known one do this!! ???

http://www.sporten.dk/fodbold/agger-smider-4-mio-i-kloagger

Daniel Agger has invested 4 million in a sewer company, and has appointed his younger brother to the dirty work.

Let us be clear immediately. It's not gas. And so little anyway. National team star Daniel Agger has thrown a handful of millions in a sewer company in Brøndby, which has been named "KloAgger". The goal is to create jobs in Denmark, says investment partner, Rune Rasmussen.

The company unveiled last week, and so is the company of Daniel Agger's younger brother Marco Agger and a family friend. Together, the two of the dirty work, so to speak.

- We have already invested in a vacuum truck and other equipment that we need for the bad sewers. For example, housing, property and the kind that we have to work with. It has exceeded all expectations in the first week, says Rune Rasmussen, who is an old friend of Daniel Agger, who is on the board of KloAgger A / S.

 Daniel Agger has thanks to his millions from his contract at Liverpool FC invested in several companies both in Denmark and abroad. Rune Rasmussen has been responsible for managing the investments that Agger has made in Denmark.

- There has been invested 3-4 million in the company. The majority of the investment comes of course from Daniel. I also put a little money, but I will primarily manage what we have here in Denmark.

- There are so many who are busy valfatre out of Denmark to invest. Now we have someone who earns a lot of money, but chooses to put his money in Denmark to get jobs. Daniel could have chosen to keep their money abroad where taxes are lower, but he does not. I think this is a good sign.

- We are a small company with big dreams, says Rasmussen, who hopes that the sewer company may be among the largest in the industry.

Besides sewer company has Daniel Agger planned several investments in Denmark. A new project with Hummel-owner Christian Stadil is imminent.


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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3557 on: February 8, 2013, 07:52:27 pm »
Doesn't Daniel Agger also have some property in Liverpool including a few restaurants on Lark Lane?

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3558 on: February 8, 2013, 07:54:34 pm »
Hmm, we got gazumped on Vidic. And ended up with Agger for less.

Actually think that Vidic was a Rick Parry special, not that much about dough, but a total fuck up.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3559 on: February 8, 2013, 07:55:28 pm »
That sewer story :lmao
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