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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #200 on: October 19, 2010, 10:10:38 pm »
I've had two cracking reads on the way home tonight thanks to the London Evening Standard.

I've managed to find them online.

The first, giving the man the appraisal and recognition he so justly deserves:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23889358-rafa-benitez-proves-he-is-inters-new-special-one.do

The second, well...classic Rafa:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/article-23889428-benitez-milks-purslow-grudge.do

Enjoy.
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #201 on: October 19, 2010, 10:43:35 pm »
We have not yet reached the bottom with our performance so far. Golden Age might easily become "Platinum Age" :(
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #202 on: October 19, 2010, 10:47:16 pm »
Can we change the heading to "in 4 months....."
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #203 on: October 19, 2010, 10:51:40 pm »
I've had two cracking reads on the way home tonight thanks to the London Evening Standard.

I've managed to find them online.

The first, giving the main the appraisal and recognition he so justly deserves:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23889358-rafa-benitez-proves-he-is-inters-new-special-one.do

The second, well...classic Rafa:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/article-23889428-benitez-milks-purslow-grudge.do

Enjoy.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #204 on: October 19, 2010, 10:59:11 pm »
I've had two cracking reads on the way home tonight thanks to the London Evening Standard.

I've managed to find them online.

The first, giving the man the appraisal and recognition he so justly deserves:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23889358-rafa-benitez-proves-he-is-inters-new-special-one.do

The second, well...classic Rafa:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/article-23889428-benitez-milks-purslow-grudge.do

Enjoy.
will have a read of these now, thanks for the links

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #205 on: October 19, 2010, 11:42:43 pm »
Whatever happened & whatever is about to happen at Liverpool Football Club, the pining for Rafa on here is cringeworthy (I don't include the OP in that btw).

He's gone, we're going to have to sort this mess out without him...

I don't think it's too difficult to understand.

Many of us are too young to remember the Reds in their heyday. We'd been waiting patiently for our time to come again and under Benitez, to a degree, it did.
Our rapid ascent to the top of European football, the way we swept aside Europe's best, at times with ease. Two CL finals in three years, one win and an FA Cup. Not to mention a great league campaign in 08/09. We were a force in world football once again and it was excellent.

Yes, we didn't quite manage to win the league and last year was shit, but with him in charge I was content. I trusted him and thought that he would get it right eventually. I have never felt as confident as a Liverpool fan as I did under Rafa (I'm under 25). Hodgson is now my manager and I have no confidence. Who knows when we'll be on top of the world again. It took so long to witness it the first time and with all the destructive work that Roy's currently doing, it could be years before I see it again.

Saying that, I am quietly confident in our new owners. Hopefully they will hire the right people to take us back to where we should be, and try to rectify one of the poorest football decisions ever made. Roy Hodgson for Rafa Benitez. Give me strength!
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #206 on: October 19, 2010, 11:52:34 pm »
I don't think it's too difficult to understand.

Many of us are too young to remember the Reds in their heyday. We'd been waiting patiently for our time to come again and under Benitez, to a degree, it did.
Our rapid ascent to the top of European football, the way we swept aside Europe's best, at times with ease. Two CL finals in three years, one win and an FA Cup. Not to mention a great league campaign in 08/09. We were a force in world football once again and it was excellent.

Yes, we didn't quite manage to win the league and last year was shit, but with him in charge I was content. I trusted him and thought that he would get it right eventually. I have never felt as confident as a Liverpool fan as I did under Rafa (I'm under 25). Hodgson is now my manager and I have no confidence. Who knows when we'll be on top of the world again. It took so long to witness it the first time and with all the destructive work that Roy's currently doing, it could be years before I see it again.

Saying that, I am quietly confident in our new owners. Hopefully they will hire the right people to take us back to where we should be, and try to rectify one of the poorest football decisions ever made. Roy Hodgson for Rafa Benitez. Give me strength!


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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #207 on: October 20, 2010, 12:03:09 am »
I don't think it's too difficult to understand.

Many of us are too young to remember the Reds in their heyday. We'd been waiting patiently for our time to come again and under Benitez, to a degree, it did.
Our rapid ascent to the top of European football, the way we swept aside Europe's best, at times with ease. Two CL finals in three years, one win and an FA Cup. Not to mention a great league campaign in 08/09. We were a force in world football once again and it was excellent.

Yes, we didn't quite manage to win the league and last year was shit, but with him in charge I was content. I trusted him and thought that he would get it right eventually. I have never felt as confident as a Liverpool fan as I did under Rafa (I'm under 25). Hodgson is now my manager and I have no confidence. Who knows when we'll be on top of the world again. It took so long to witness it the first time and with all the destructive work that Roy's currently doing, it could be years before I see it again.

Saying that, I am quietly confident in our new owners. Hopefully they will hire the right people to take us back to where we should be, and try to rectify one of the poorest football decisions ever made. Roy Hodgson for Rafa Benitez. Give me strength!


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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #208 on: October 20, 2010, 12:14:32 am »
Whatever happened & whatever is about to happen at Liverpool Football Club, the pining for Rafa on here is cringeworthy

Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #209 on: October 20, 2010, 12:16:04 am »
I don't think it's too difficult to understand.

Many of us are too young to remember the Reds in their heyday. We'd been waiting patiently for our time to come again and under Benitez, to a degree, it did.
Our rapid ascent to the top of European football, the way we swept aside Europe's best, at times with ease. Two CL finals in three years, one win and an FA Cup. Not to mention a great league campaign in 08/09. We were a force in world football once again and it was excellent.

Yes, we didn't quite manage to win the league and last year was shit, but with him in charge I was content. I trusted him and thought that he would get it right eventually. I have never felt as confident as a Liverpool fan as I did under Rafa (I'm under 25). Hodgson is now my manager and I have no confidence. Who knows when we'll be on top of the world again. It took so long to witness it the first time and with all the destructive work that Roy's currently doing, it could be years before I see it again.

Saying that, I am quietly confident in our new owners. Hopefully they will hire the right people to take us back to where we should be, and try to rectify one of the poorest football decisions ever made. Roy Hodgson for Rafa Benitez. Give me strength!


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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #210 on: October 20, 2010, 12:21:50 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #211 on: October 20, 2010, 12:23:25 am »
I don't think it's too difficult to understand.

Many of us are too young to remember the Reds in their heyday. We'd been waiting patiently for our time to come again and under Benitez, to a degree, it did.
Our rapid ascent to the top of European football, the way we swept aside Europe's best, at times with ease. Two CL finals in three years, one win and an FA Cup. Not to mention a great league campaign in 08/09. We were a force in world football once again and it was excellent.

Yes, we didn't quite manage to win the league and last year was shit, but with him in charge I was content. I trusted him and thought that he would get it right eventually. I have never felt as confident as a Liverpool fan as I did under Rafa (I'm under 25). Hodgson is now my manager and I have no confidence. Who knows when we'll be on top of the world again. It took so long to witness it the first time and with all the destructive work that Roy's currently doing, it could be years before I see it again.

Saying that, I am quietly confident in our new owners. Hopefully they will hire the right people to take us back to where we should be, and try to rectify one of the poorest football decisions ever made. Roy Hodgson for Rafa Benitez. Give me strength!

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #212 on: October 20, 2010, 12:23:57 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.

So what is your solution to our problem and who did you want to replace Rafa with?
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #213 on: October 20, 2010, 12:34:48 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.
You may have a point about the pining and moving on, but the rest is just nonsense. Hope you and your "Rafa Out" cronies are enjoying the shite that's being offered up on the pitch.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #214 on: October 20, 2010, 01:13:43 am »
some people need to get over it and move on.

To hell with moving on, he hasn't, still kept his house and wants to come back. I am not getting over anything that happened during the last 6 years.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #215 on: October 20, 2010, 01:18:13 am »
We have not yet reached the bottom with our performance so far. Golden Age might easily become "Platinum Age" :(

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #216 on: October 20, 2010, 01:18:22 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.
So you work with a lot of idiots? Congratulations.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #217 on: October 20, 2010, 01:27:52 am »
In Roy we trust, pass me the drugs the rest of you anti-Rafa fans are smoking. We sort the mess out by sorting out the manager first. The rest will come after that. We are making ordinary teams look like world beaters. We have purchased some total dross and wonder why we play like crap.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #218 on: October 20, 2010, 01:29:52 am »
In Roy we trust...

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #219 on: October 20, 2010, 01:30:45 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.
Yes leading goal scorers the season before last have taken the stick to real madrid, and numerous other european and PL teams but its boring football, f**k off to the Emirates then
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #220 on: October 20, 2010, 01:32:53 am »
Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

the football was turgid, lfc should be all about taking the game to the opposition instead we played one up front at home against shite, rafa was toooo negative but so is Hodgson, im glad we got rid of rafa but Hodgson was a poor choice imo

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #221 on: October 20, 2010, 01:33:37 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.
Honestly, that is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever read. And your a fan? Well I am glad you got what you wanted. A great, exciting English manager who is taking us to new levels. Oh and backwards about 50 years. With fans like you....
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #222 on: October 20, 2010, 01:37:50 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.

Talking shite there mate.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #223 on: October 20, 2010, 01:37:52 am »
So what is your solution to our problem and who did you want to replace Rafa with?

Mourinho
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #224 on: October 20, 2010, 01:40:08 am »
Mourinho
If the problem was boring uninspiring football, I really don't think Mourinho would be the answer, somehow.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #226 on: October 20, 2010, 01:43:43 am »
Mourinho


Not a chance mate, not a chance in a million years, he doesnt like us and him and ferguson have been botting for a while now.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #227 on: October 20, 2010, 01:45:18 am »
Mourinho

You think he would come to us? With fuck all money and H&G doing their clown act? Rafa was doing us a favour by staying for so long considering how much shit some people gave him. Reds included.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #228 on: October 20, 2010, 01:59:37 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.
Ok so Rafa is largely underwhelming apart from Istanbul. Now, where are the records that make you think Roy is going to over achieve? 2 UEFA Cup Finals?

We will pin for whoever is going to come good for LFC. We support Rafa because his records speak for itself. Likewise, please do not castigate Rafa is you are unable to suggest a better name.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #229 on: October 20, 2010, 02:17:05 am »
If the problem was boring uninspiring football, I really don't think Mourinho would be the answer, somehow.

But he would be a media darling ::)
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« Reply #230 on: October 20, 2010, 03:06:06 am »
This article is so true , it's scray. I wonder if he can see the future.
The rafa era is quickly become the platinum age.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #231 on: October 20, 2010, 03:31:07 am »
This article is so true , it's scray. I wonder if he can see the future.
The rafa era is quickly become the platinum age.
Maybe for this season, but not for long. There's hope now that the yanks have gone.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #232 on: October 20, 2010, 03:39:05 am »
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #233 on: October 20, 2010, 03:47:06 am »
It was clear for anyone smart to see, we were always going to go downhill after Rafa, those that wanted him gone now have egg firmly splashed all over their face. well fucking done.

And I don`t care how many of your mates or posters on other forums disagree, you all look like a right bunch of stupid twats now don`t ya?
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #234 on: October 20, 2010, 03:50:53 am »
Spot on. Apart from the miracle of Istanbul Rafa was manager for a largely underwhelming six years where the 'football' was boring for much of the time - same as from Houllier before him.

The pining by some is indeed cringeworthy. At work and at the match I know no one who wants him back yet log-in to RAWK and there's always the 'Rafa FC' fans forever pining - some people need to get over it and move on.

Spoken like a "true" fan who follow Liverpool only when we win trophies. And, oh my god, you sure missed a lot of good football since Istanbul.

Where were you when we won the FA Cup in 2006 and ended up with 82 points. Where we you when we made it into a second Champions League Finals in 2007, and almost made a 3rd in 2008 losing narrowly to Chelsea in part due to a 95th minute own goal by Riise? And how many clubs in all history of all football can claim such an excellent record in the best competition in football all in the space of 4 years? Where were you when we became the best team in Europe, and came in second to the Mancs with 86 points, our 2nd highest points total per game in all of our history, whilst scoring the most of any team in England? Is it lost on you that 86 points would have won the league the following year? Where were you when we spanked Real Madrid 5-0 on aggregate, and twatted the Mancs 6-2 over two games, demolished Aston Villa 5-0, and played incredibly scintillating 4-4 draws with Arsenal and Chelsea?

We all revere Rafa for a reason despite his flaws, the simple being that we follow all the games, whether they are bad ones or good ones, and we analyze to see what went wrong in the game. We don't wake up one morning, pick up the papers and look at the score and go: shit! How can we draw with such a shit team like Stoke?
 
The pining you see here would be the same in 1974, 1983 and 1991, the same for any of the past Great Liverpool managers (if the internet had existed then), and make no mistake about it - Rafa is one of the greats.
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #236 on: October 20, 2010, 04:22:27 am »
Just on a sidenote, do the fans at Anfield still sing Rafa's name till this day?
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #237 on: October 20, 2010, 04:37:50 am »
Ripped it off tomkins website. I feel so sad when i read this.


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Rafa Benitez achievements


This is an extensive list of some of the achievements of Rafa Benítez and his players in the past five and a half years. Some of them won’t be remembered as highly significant, but many of them highlight the progress made since 2004.

Following the list, there is some statistical analysis on the manager’s performance, in comparison with previous Liverpool managers.

August 2004 – January 2010
2004-05

In his 1st home game in charge (Man City) Liverpool came from behind at half-time to win a game for the first time in more than 5 years.

At Fulham (October 2004) the Reds came from behind at half-time to win an away game for the 1st time in 13 years.

Liverpool became the 1st British club to ‘keep’ the European Cup following a 5th Final success.

Steven Gerrard became the 2nd youngest player to captain a European Cup winning team.
2005-06

Became only the 3rd team, and the 1st British side, to win the European Super Cup 3 times.

Steven Gerrard became the 1st Liverpool player in history to score in 5 successive European matches.

Kept clean sheets in each of their opening 4 league games for the 1st time in the club’s history.

Sami Hyypia played in a 56th consecutive European game – breaking the club record for an outfield player (he extended that record to 57).

Liverpool set a new club record of 11 consecutive clean sheets (Oct-Dec 2005).

Went 762 minutes without conceding a league goal (a post-war club record).

Won 10 league games in a row for the 1st time in 15 years.

At Luton Liverpool scored 5 goals in an away F.A. Cup tie for the 1st time in 59 years.

Liverpool beat Manchester United for the 1st time in the F.A. Cup for 85 years.

Recorded their biggest ever away win in the F.A. Cup (7-0 at Birmingham) and the biggest by any team away from home in the Quarter-Finals for 106 years.

Conceded only 8 league goals at home – their 3rd best total ever.

Set a club record of 12 successive wins in all competitions (it was extended to 14 at the start of the following season).

By lifting the F.A. Cup became the 1st manager in the club’s history to win a trophy in each of his first 2 seasons in charge.

Set a club record of 21 goals scored by substitutes in a season – previous record was 12.

Achieved the 6th-highest accumulation of available league points in the club’s history, and at the time, the 2nd-highest ever number of wins (as a % of games played)
2006-07

Recorded his 50th league win in just 93 games – a record bettered by only 2 Liverpool managers of the previous 57 years, Dalglish and Shankly.

Went unbeaten in 30 successive home league games for only the 4th time in their history.

Scored 4 goals in the 1st half of an away league game (at Wigan) for the 1st time in 15 years.

Pepe Reina kept more clean sheets in his first 50 league games (2 than any other goalkeeper in the club’s history.

Jamie Carragher played in a club record 58th game in the European Cup.

Jamie Carragher made a club record 90th appearance in all European competition.

Conceded only 7 league goals at home – best total for 28 years.

Only second English side to win in Nou Camp (previous one was Liverpool in 1976).

Reached second Champions League final in three seasons. (If ‘lucky’ to win in 2005, the Reds were ‘unlucky’ to lose in 2007.)
2007-08

Beat Be?ikta? 8-0 to record the biggest ever Champions League victory.

Scored 4 goals in a game on 8 occasions before Christmas for only the 3rd time in club’s history.

Steven Gerrard scored his 23rd European goal – to break the club record.

Pepe Reina kept his 50th league clean sheet in his 92nd appearance – breaking club record of 95 held by Ray Clemence.

Steven Gerrard became the 1st Liverpool player ever to score in 5 successive European games in the same season.

Fernando Torres became the 1st Liverpool player in 62 years to a hat-trick in successive home league games.

Jamie Carragher became the 1st Liverpool player to play 100 European games for the club.

Fernando Torres became the 1st player in 12 years to score 20 league goals for the club.

Pepe Reina kept 54 clean sheets in his first 100 league games to break the club record held by Ray Clemence.

Steven Gerrard became the 1st Liverpool player to score in 4 successive home European games.

Fernando Torres became the 1st Liverpool player to score in 7 successive top-flight home league games.

Rafa Benitez won 81 of his first 150 league games in charge. Only Kenny Dalglish (87) won more as Liverpool manager.

Ryan Babel equalled the club record of most goals in a season scored by a substitute (7).

Liverpool had 6 players who scored 10 goals or more in a season. Only the 3rd time this had happened in the club’s history.

Fernando Torres equalled the club record by scoring in an 8th successive home league game (all divisions).

Fernando Torres scored 24 league goals – most by any Liverpool player in a debut season for 61 years.

Fernando Torres broke Ruud Van Nistelrooy’s record of most goals in a debut Premier league season by an overseas player.

Pepe Reina won the Golden Glove for the 3rd successive season.

Liverpool scored 119 goals in the season – more than any team in England.
2008-09

In 2008 recorded their highest points tally in a calendar year (81) for 18 years.

Liverpool won 9 successive home league games for the 1st time since November 1990.

Fernando Torres became the club’s 2nd highest ever scorer in his first 50 games (34 goals).

Ryan Babel became the club’s 2nd highest ever goalscoring substitute (with 8 goals).

Liverpool came from behind to defeat Manchester United in the league for the 1st time in 42 years.

End Chelsea’s 84-game unbeaten home record.

Became only the 2nd English team to win in the Bernabeu.

At Anfield inflicted upon Real Madrid their biggest ever Champions League defeat.

Steven Gerrard became only the 2nd Liverpool player to play 100 times for the club in Europe.

Recorded their biggest win at Old Trafford for 72 years. It was also the 1st time 4 Liverpool players had scored at United in the same game.

Led the table for the 1st time ever in the Premiership with 2 games to play.

Broke Bill Shankly’s record of 65 European matches as Liverpool manager.

Broke Bob Paisley’s record of 40 European wins as Liverpool manager.

Recorded his 100th league win as manager in his 181st game. It was the 3rd quickest ever by a Liverpool manager and 50 games faster than Alex Ferguson.

Equalled club record set in 1904-05 by winning 13 away league games.

Amassed their highest points total ever in the Premier League (86) beating the 82 set in 2005-06. Their highest in the league since 1987-88.

Scored at least 3 goals in 6 successive games in all competitions for the 1st time in the club’s history.

Finished the campaign with a goal difference of + 50 – their best for 21 years when they amassed + 63 in 1987-88.

Lost just twice in the league – equalling the fewest they had lost in a league campaign for 105 years.

Fernando Torres scored 33 goals in his first 50 league games for the club – the best by any Liverpool player for 52 years.

Pepe Reina kept his 100th clean sheet in the fastest time in Liverpool history (197 games).

Won 75% of all available league points – 2nd highest in the club’s history.

The highest number of points by any team which failed to win the league (38 game seasons)
2009-10

Went unbeaten in 31 home league games – their 3rd longest ever run and best for 32 years.

Against Manchester United recorded his 114th league win in his 200th game. The 2nd best tally by any Liverpool manager in first 200 league games (Kenny Dalglish 120 wins).

Liverpool won a 3rd successive league game at Everton for only 3rd time in club’s history.

Yossi Benayoun scored a hat-trick against Burnley to become only the 5th player in the club’s history to score a hat-trick in 3 different competitions.

Pepe Reina set a new club record of most clean sheets (79) in first 150 league games.

Liverpool scored 22 goals in opening 7 league games – best tally for 114 years and 2nd best ever.

Broke club record by scoring in an 18th successive Premier League game at Anfield.

Fernando Torres broke the club record by scoring his 50th league goal for Liverpool in just his 72nd match.

(Correct up to January 23rd 2010)

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In addition, here are some statistics relating to the eight Liverpool managers over the past 50 years.
Win %

Rafa Benítez

League – Played 212, won 56.13% (currently 2nd-highest % for any post-war Liverpool manager)

Europe – Played 77, won 55.84% (currently 3rd-highest % for any Liverpool manager)

Gerard Houllier

League – Played 216, won 50.00%

Europe – Played 52 , won 50.00%

Roy Evans

League – Played 172, won 48.26%

Europe – Played 16 8, won 50.00%

Graeme Sounes

League – Played 115, won 40.87%

Europe – Played 12 6, won 50.00%

Kenny Dalglish

League – Played 224, won 60.71%

Joe Fagan

League – Played 84, won 52.38%

Europe – Played 19 , won 68.42%

Bob Paisley

League – Played 378, won 56.08%

Europe – Played 61 , won 63.93%

Bill Shankly

League – Played 609, won 52.38%

Europe – Played 65 , won 52.31%
Progress From Predecessor?

Although it never appeared in the book, for Dynasty I compared the league records of all eight managers since 1959, with the first season’s points removed from their average tally. This first season total was removed because some managers inherited successful sides, and others inherited struggling sides; as such, I wanted a less-skewed figure for their performance.

Once Liverpool were struggling from 1991 onwards, the worst points tally posted by each of Evans (60), Houllier (54) and Benítez (5 was in their first season. By contrast, Joe Fagan, by inheriting a world-class team, had his best total in his inaugural season. The same applies to Graeme Souness (I’ve also excluded incomplete seasons if the manager left before the end).

So, when removing the first season – giving each man a season’s grace, if you will – the following figures are their average league points tallies; where a predecessor is listed in brackets it means they improved on the man before them. Currently Benítez has the greatest improvement by any Liverpool manager, but that will drop slightly if Liverpool do not reach 78 points in this campaign.

1 Paisley av. 83 (predecessor av. 77)

2 Dalglish av. 81 (predecessor av. 77)

3 Benítez av. 78 (predecessor av. 6

4 Shankly av. 77

5 Fagan av. 77

5 Evans av. 70 (predecessor av. 61)

7 Houllier av. 68

8 Souness av. 61

So anyone who says that the club has gone backwards since the days of Houllier (that includes you, Danny Murphy) is wrong; the facts suggest a big improvement.

(All tallies adjusted to 3 points for a win system, which was introduced in 1981.)
Proximity To Champions

Following the publication of this piece, student Kais-Sabir Jesani emailed me some of his own analysis, which I feel to be first-rate.

“I feel that examining Liverpool’s points hauls in isolation, across seasons and managers fails to account for the performance of the team in relation to the highest-achieving team each season. As a result, I have analysed the points totals amassed by Liverpool in each season, as a percentage of the points achieved by the team that won the title in that particular season, for each season since 1991/1992.

“I felt this would provide some perspective as to how close the team came to winning the title or challenging for it, in comparison to the team that actually won it that season. This analysis would reflect the fact that in some seasons, the winning points haul would be higher or lower depending on the standard of other teams, competitiveness in the league etc.”

? Over the course of Souness’ two full seasons in charge (1991/1992, 1992/1993), Liverpool averaged 74.15% of the points accumulated by the team that won the league in those two seasons.
? If we are to include the 1993/1994 season, this figure drops to 71.79%.
? Over the course of Evans’ four full seasons in charge, Liverpool averaged 85.94% of the points haul attained by the title-winning teams in those seasons.
? Over the course of Houllier’s five full seasons in charge (1999/2000 to 2003/2004), Liverpool averaged 79.12% of the points achieved by the winners during those seasons.
? If we are to include the 1998/1999 season, then Houllier’s figure drops to 77.33%

The average points total achieved by Benitez’ teams, as a percentage of the winning teams totals, during his 5 full seasons in charge, is 82.1%

If we exclude his first season (as you suggested – quite rightly, in order to avoid skewing), then Benitez’ figure rises to 87.36% – the highest amongst Liverpool managers in the Premier League era.

It is interesting to note that the performance under Evans was the most consistent during his four full seasons in charge, in that there was less deviation of the points achieved as a percentage of the winnings teams points for these seasons.

However, under Benitez in 2008/2009, the points achieved by Liverpool as a percentage of the winning team’s (United) points haul (86/90 * 100) - 95.56% – is the highest total achieved by any Liverpool manager in the Premiership era.
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #238 on: October 20, 2010, 04:46:04 am »
Excellent post byRedRush

...the pining for Rafa on here is cringeworthy
You seem to make this very point in every thread which has Rafa in the title.

Why do you find it odd that whilst sitting in the stinking Salford bedsit of 19th and relegation we don't at times cast our minds back to when we were moored in our luxury yacht in the harbour at Monaco with the other European elite.

Some people saw that ousting Rafa would take us backwards, like Dion Fanning. For others it was when they realised we paid 8m to replace Rafa with Roy. But there's still a few diehards who wanted Rafa out, despite not giving a realistic thought (Hodgson? We should have gone for Mourinho) to who and what might follow him.

So, why don't you take your "cringeworthy" and stick it in the Roy's Tactics thread where it belongs?


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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #239 on: October 20, 2010, 04:55:20 am »
Mourinho

HAHAHAHA.....why don't you go read who the Inter fans think was more boring between Rafa and Maureen. Troll.
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