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A fairly balanced article for once:

 http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-2173371.html

In six months, the Benitez era will seem like a golden age

In the dressing room and on the balance sheet, Liverpool have fallen over the edge, writes Dion Fanning

Sunday May 09 2010

I f Liverpool thought this season was bad, the summer may have them looking back wistfully. The release of their latest financial figures might shake some sense into those who think that Rafael Benitez's possible departure will make things better. Liverpool, as the figures show, are in great peril. In six months, the Benitez era will seem like a golden age.

The idea that Jose Mourinho can be parachuted in to save the club should crash up against the reality of these numbers. For the second successive year, the auditors, KPMG, expressed "material uncertainty" about Liverpool's ability to continue as a going concern.

The new chairman Martin Broughton has had to appear before the Premier League to give a guarantee, which had to be backed up by the banks, that Liverpool will be able to fulfil their fixtures next season (anyone who saw Liverpool's performance in Portsmouth this season may question if that guarantee was given last season). Yet some people cling to the view that Liverpool need simply to sign a new full-back. There is no quick-fix for Liverpool. There may be no slow-fix either.

This weekend, it does not seem as inevitable that Benitez will leave. At this stage, the decay has affected him so profoundly that it would be no bad thing for him to go. At the very least, his departure would allow those who criticise his management to understand slowly what he was up against. Alan Curbishley won't be able to do much better.

On Friday, an internet campaign launched by a Liverpool forum resulted in journalists receiving hundreds of emails from supporters backing Benitez. It is customary for their loyalty to be applauded slightly patronisingly at this point before asking at what other club would a manager be backed in this way?

Benitez earned their loyalty by providing as magical a night as any Liverpool fan has experienced in Istanbul, defying Chelsea in the semi-final and challenging for the title last season. He earned their loyalty by being misunderstood, as Liverpool people feel they are, and he earned their devotion by rumbling Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

So when they chant his name or send an email, they are not displaying blind devotion. They are acknowledging the complications of managing a club that has no future until things change and recognising that Benitez has, imperfectly, managed until this season somehow to keep Liverpool competitive.

Once Liverpool's players started spinning about the race for fourth and once Benitez started talking about how the value of the club had increased during his time at Anfield, then things were destined to unravel. That was not Benitez's racket. At his best, he felt no need to point to his record because he didn't respect the people who were looking it up.

They were wrong about everything: wrong about his transfer record, wrong about rotation, wrong about how often he rested Torres. Yet they never shut up and they wore Benitez down. The reasons Rafael Benitez is no longer the right manager for Liverpool are exactly the same as the reasons he was such a successful manager of Liverpool. His stubbornness allowed him to ignore the voices that told him he should buy Michael Owen or play Steven Gerrard in his "favoured" central midfield position.

Then he became distracted and demented by the financial position and gaining control. His attempt to sell Xabi Alonso was a disaster -- not because Alonso was in sparkling form and it made no sense -- but because his return to form was achieved not by coaxing the best from him but by instilling a sense of resentment that made his departure inevitable.

One of the key tenets of Benitez's philosophy is that he does not get close to the players. There is nothing wrong with that but it works best if the manager does not hold resentments if the players react to that distance, as Alonso did. The sadness in the fracturing of the relationship with the player once known as 'Son of Rafa' was compounded when, having taken the biggest risk of his career at Liverpool, Benitez barely saw any of the transfer fee.

Instead, he was forced to gamble on a fragile player like Alberto Aquilani and the pressure was on once it quickly became apparent that the title would not be achieved as many had expected. Benitez had been exhausted by the battles he had to fight. He was contaminated by the bullshit coming down the line and the players appear to have had enough.

Just as his success masked the dysfunction of the regime he was employed by, his failures have hidden them too. Benitez took on Hicks and Gillett and paid the price: not the loss of his job but the loss of his vision of what the team should be. Like all obsessives, he is always at risk of losing touch with reality.

Liverpool, out of the top four and with their most glorious footballer Fernando Torres agonising over his future, have more chance of sinking further next season than they do of reclaiming a Champions League place.

Torres is not bigger than the club, the old cliché that may yet be used by the accountants this summer after he makes an impact on the balance sheet, but there is a strong case to be made that it stands or falls with him right now. For many reasons, Torres is no ordinary footballer. He is loyal and curious about his surroundings. His talent ensured he would be a favourite at Liverpool, but his heart quickly bound him to Anfield. His disillusionment, not about last season, but about the future, is likely to see him leave in the summer. Even if the banks were to allow Liverpool to replace him, he is irreplaceable.

Broughton has announced that Liverpool do not need to sell him to service their debts but when £85m has been paid in interest since 2007, the needs of the money men can sometimes become insatiable.

Torres will have his choices and he may decide, despite their failure to qualify for the Champions League, that Manchester City are the best option. Certainly, they can offer a challenge in the future that Liverpool cannot. If they could persuade Torres then it would be a spectacular announcement of their intentions which could speak even louder than qualification for the Champions League.

Liverpool are being squeezed by teams who have been allowed to build and clubs that have not been so badly run. Tottenham's progress has been through shrewd investment and the acquisition of a squad that Liverpool can only envy. Peter Crouch might have stayed at Liverpool if he had been offered a contract that would have made his time on the bench bearable. Instead, he ended up at Spurs, along with Robbie Keane, who played no more time at Tottenham than he did at Liverpool but nobody seemed to notice before he headed off to Glasgow.

City and Spurs are ready to replace Liverpool. They have energy, ambition and new ideas. Liverpool are just trying to make it through the night. They have been ripped from their community by the decision of David Moores to sell the club to Hicks and Gillett. The desire of supporters to see the club return to ownership they understand has now been replaced by the pressing urgency to find somebody to rescue them.

There was a time when Moores and Rick Parry (who received a pay-off of £3m, the latest accounts revealed) searched the world looking for new investment. Moores could have borrowed on the club to build a new stadium instead of selling to the Americans, who were borrowing on the club to buy it, and Liverpool would be in a better position today. Instead, he made a rash decision and a poor business one for him and for Liverpool.

Those were the good days when the world felt it could trust people like Hicks and Gillett. Because there were so many of them, they must be doing something right.

Last week's accounts showed Liverpool's loss was 34 per cent worse than 2008's figure as £40.1m went on servicing the club's £351.4m debt to Royal Bank of Scotland and US firm Wachovia. These loans have been extended until the sale but the club is now, according to KPMG, "dependent on short-term facility extensions". They are living hand to mouth. And yet they claim that Torres doesn't need to be sold. They do not need to sell him, much as a wino doesn't need a bed for the night.

It is worth noting that the accounts were taken in a good year for Liverpool, a run in the Champions League and second in the league. Next year, if there is a next year, things will be worse.

But still they blame the manager. Benitez is said to be torn about his departure. A number of senior players would be happy to see him go and a number would prefer if he stayed. His management style is undoubtedly wearing on players but Liverpool aren't faced with too many alternatives.

Few managers will be tempted in the summer to join a club which may not still have owners and has no money. Martin O'Neill is the only candidate who appeals, especially if he feels he has done as much as he can at Aston Villa. Liverpool may not end up like Leeds but there is every indication they could end up like Newcastle, who, unlike Liverpool, had a stadium that gave them the revenue to compete. Liverpool have nothing, not even freedom, as that isn't afforded to the indebted.

The days of standing on the edge of the abyss are over, Liverpool have fallen over the edge. Benitez seems reluctant not to fall with them. He staked his reputation on the club and he found that even when it plummeted, he didn't want to give it all up.

He has been promised riches and finances at Juventus but still he hesitates. He is bound by something more. He is a flawed hero but history will see his management as no less heroic for the reality that it was doomed.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #1 on: May 9, 2010, 02:46:58 pm »
Have split this from the Sunday Supplement stuff. The title alone should provoke enough though of where the club will be in 6 months time, regardless of its manager.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #2 on: May 9, 2010, 02:49:09 pm »
Dion Fanning is one of the best journalists around, if only there were more like him.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #3 on: May 9, 2010, 02:51:07 pm »
This is an outstanding read and just about my take on all that's going on. It doesn't exclude Rafa from blame for what's going on at present on the pitch but it certainly does give some very mitigating circumstances.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #4 on: May 9, 2010, 03:01:44 pm »
Brilliant article but makes for such a depressing read. The only issue i have with it is the bit about Nando going to City, i'd nearly fuck football off altogether if that happened, can't see it happening though.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #5 on: May 9, 2010, 03:02:20 pm »
Briiliant article.

It seems to me CERTAIN fans have their priorites all wrong.Ive been hammered with emails over the weekend wanting me to sign ''Rafa out'' petitions and then more emails asking me why ive refused.Its simple , the biggest problem is not the manager , instead of wanting him out we should be praising him for sticking with us in among all the shite when others would of walked a long time ago.

As this moment it dosent matter if Lucas plays in midfield or we are a striker short , this is threatening our future , our existence as a top flight club.Get your priorites sorted , put all the effort on getting this club stable , everything else will follow given patience.

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« Reply #6 on: May 9, 2010, 03:06:14 pm »
Dion Fanning is one of the best journalists around, if only there were more like him.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #7 on: May 9, 2010, 03:06:43 pm »
So sad but so true.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #8 on: May 9, 2010, 03:07:05 pm »
clucking bell, how did it get this bad? Moores must be really happy that he got an extra £500 per share from the snake oil salesmen over what dic were offering. Greed, greed, greed!!!! I am going to the boozer to get pissed

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #9 on: May 9, 2010, 03:07:29 pm »
The phrase "Sh*t runs down hill" perfectly describes Rafa's situation...

He is buried in it, and is fighting to stay afloat...

He has made mistakes yes, but he is doing the best he can in a bad bad situation.... 

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« Reply #10 on: May 9, 2010, 03:09:36 pm »
Good but depressing article. We're in deep shit everyone.

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« Reply #11 on: May 9, 2010, 03:11:34 pm »
Good but depressing article. We're in deep shit everyone.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #12 on: May 9, 2010, 03:20:15 pm »
So true and so sad...

how can 2 people fuck up this badly and only 1 reporter is getting the word out?

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #13 on: May 9, 2010, 03:21:23 pm »
Great article but so, so, so depressing. Wish I could just slip into a coma and wake up on the day it's done.
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« Reply #14 on: May 9, 2010, 03:21:32 pm »
The entire article was a tear jerker and a prelude to  a funeral dirge. Despite having landed Rafa, you have to blame Moores and Parry for fucking the club over. Virtually everything else they did was wrong or too late to matter. Yet they were so called fans.

I've been saying for  a while now, we wont be an attractive proposition on the market. Huge debts, a stadium that needs building and a highly suspicious yet demanding fan base. Risk wise it makes sense for the rich sheik to buy a mid table club rather than us.

 This weekend, it does not seem as inevitable that Benitez will leave. At this stage, the decay has affected him so profoundly that it would be no bad thing for him to go. At the very least, his departure would allow those who criticize his management to understand slowly what he was up against.

Can't wait for Rafa's biography to find out what he really had to put up with.
Goodbye & thank you Rafa. You've given us more than we ever had a right to expect from you and you stayed loyal and fought for us even when some of our own turned on you. I truly hope that you find somewhere with the support that you deserve & win everything in sight.

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« Reply #15 on: May 9, 2010, 03:23:32 pm »
any new buyer is gonna milk tis situation.
may have to wait a little but im confident it will get resolved.
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« Reply #16 on: May 9, 2010, 03:23:56 pm »
What a great and refreshing read that was- even if it was quite negative, but at least it was truthful. I've been looking at something balanced to send to my dad, who's convinced Rafa needs to go and Mourinho or O'Neil should come in. I think I'll send him this.

Those last three lines are something so many fans fail to realise about Rafa. He's on a sinking ship but he's still trying to plug the holes.
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« Reply #17 on: May 9, 2010, 03:25:17 pm »
Agreed, his book will be mind blowing for a lot of people who wish him gone....

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« Reply #18 on: May 9, 2010, 03:25:43 pm »
Know any good Martin O'Neill songs John?

He looks like a total tit,
With the boys from the press, he's a hit
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Needs refining a bit and another twenty verses but it's a start. shit manager, shit songs.
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #19 on: May 9, 2010, 03:25:52 pm »
Good but depressing article. We're in deep shit everyone.

Yup, and at the moment there seems to be no way out unless there is someone rich and genuine who can come forward to save us.

Until that happens, we have to persuade Rafa and the players to stay
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« Reply #20 on: May 9, 2010, 03:26:01 pm »
What a great and refreshing read that was- even if it was quite negative, but at least it was truthful. I've been looking at something balanced to send to my dad, who's convinced Rafa needs to go and Mourinho or O'Neil should come in. I think I'll send him this.

Those last three lines are something so many fans fail to realise about Rafa. He's on a sinking ship but he's still trying to plug the holes.

but he finished 7th this year.... ::)


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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #21 on: May 9, 2010, 03:26:42 pm »
He looks like a total tit,
With the boys from the press, he'll be a hit
But he'll makes us even more shit.
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Needs refining a bit and another twenty verses but it's a start, shit manager, shit songs.

too slow needs to be sung at 250 bpm aswell
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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #22 on: May 9, 2010, 03:28:06 pm »
You can only keep a sinking ship up for so long before it eventually sinks....

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #23 on: May 9, 2010, 03:28:20 pm »
Why the fuck do we want a cheerleader as coach... what the hell would the players think?

There's alot on here and in general who don't hide their dislike of Rafa for whatever reason.... if you think his removal will help our club then you're going to be in for a huge shock

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« Reply #24 on: May 9, 2010, 03:34:26 pm »
Very well written article wish there were more balanced articles like this out there.
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« Reply #25 on: May 9, 2010, 03:38:29 pm »
Yup, and at the moment there seems to be no way out unless there is someone rich and genuine who can come forward to save us.

Until that happens, we have to persuade Rafa and the players to stay

we're a poison pill though - high debt, high cost of purchase, stadium that needs building, fan base wants success now, unless the buyer invests big immediately top players will leave

That's a massive risk for a buyer - makes more sense to buy a mid table team and have more time, less cost and hence lower risk
Goodbye & thank you Rafa. You've given us more than we ever had a right to expect from you and you stayed loyal and fought for us even when some of our own turned on you. I truly hope that you find somewhere with the support that you deserve & win everything in sight.

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« Reply #26 on: May 9, 2010, 03:40:13 pm »
You can only keep a sinking ship up for so long before it eventually sinks....

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« Reply #27 on: May 9, 2010, 03:44:50 pm »
thought commercially we are doing better this year with the new shirt deal and other activities..
downside is we would be missing out on CL money but on the whole we should be improving financially.. or am i missing something?

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« Reply #28 on: May 9, 2010, 03:45:49 pm »
good, if depressing, reading.  Thanks for the post.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #29 on: May 9, 2010, 03:45:52 pm »
as a club we are staring down both barrels now.

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« Reply #31 on: May 9, 2010, 03:46:56 pm »
good, if depressing, reading.  Thanks for the post.

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« Reply #32 on: May 9, 2010, 03:54:10 pm »
Depressingly accurate read.

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« Reply #33 on: May 9, 2010, 03:54:28 pm »
This is not the balanced article that it's being heralded as. Yes, we have been spoilt by rafa, most would agree, but the rest of it is just more speculation and bollocks. Dion Fanning, you may have wrritten this with the best intentions, but why spout the usual press speculation as fact?

Another typical lazy arsed journalist cutting and pasting.

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Re: In 6 months, the Benitez era will look like a Golden Age
« Reply #34 on: May 9, 2010, 03:59:08 pm »
thought commercially we are doing better this year with the new shirt deal and other activities..
downside is we would be missing out on CL money but on the whole we should be improving financially.. or am i missing something?



Yep you're missing everything.  Any increase in commercial revenue is massively dwarfed by the extent of the debt and subsequent repayments.  It gets swallowed up in the debt hole.

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« Reply #35 on: May 9, 2010, 04:00:10 pm »
This is not the balanced article that it's being heralded as. Yes, we have been spoilt by rafa, most would agree, but the rest of it is just more speculation and bollocks. Dion Fanning, you may have wrritten this with the best intentions, but why spout the usual press speculation as fact?

Another typical lazy arsed journalist cutting and pasting.

What's wrong with it?  Highlights the fact we're financially fucked, which we are.

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« Reply #36 on: May 9, 2010, 04:03:21 pm »
What's wrong with it?  Highlights the fact we're financially fucked, which we are.

Yes, and then he goes on to speculate this that the other and like all the rest of us, he hasn't got a fucking clue what happens down the line, the fucking vulture. If LFC didn't exist, he'd have fuck all to say.

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« Reply #37 on: May 9, 2010, 04:15:18 pm »
Yes, and then he goes on to speculate this that the other and like all the rest of us, he hasn't got a fucking clue what happens down the line, the fucking vulture. If LFC didn't exist, he'd have fuck all to say.

What is 'this, that other'?  Of course he can't predict accurately what will happen.  What he can do of course is speculate.  And based on our current position it's difficult to argue with his speculation - do you think everything is rosy?

Anyway, the lack of these type of articles in the press are prob why a lot of supporters have the heads in the sand re the financial predicament we're in, and some actually believe the likes of Mourinho etc would entertain coming here should Rafa go.

More of these articles would help to educate the wider support.

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« Reply #38 on: May 9, 2010, 04:20:43 pm »
If LFC didn't exist, he'd have fuck all to say.

What are you even talking about?

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« Reply #39 on: May 9, 2010, 04:31:37 pm »
That is a good article - although I think LFCs position is more in the balance than completely negative and things could still improve if a series of things happen.

I like Rafa and would like him to stay if given the resources but I have sympathy with the argument that his hands are tied and he cant take us any further.

If Juve or Madrid come in for him the decision should be down to this...are Gerrard and Torres more likely to stay with or without Rafa - sounds extreme but given we will have more difficulty attracting massive players without CL we need to keep at all costs our prize assets - they need to give us 12 months to see if we can turn it around.

If Rafa does go - while my first choice is Mourinho (I know! but he is just arrogant enough and will attract top class players CL or not) we could do alot worse than Martin O'Neill - used to working with budgets and with the ability to bring in Young/Milner, Agbonlahor and maybe even Warnock back - which would fill most of our gaps in one go.  If we tried to get Joe Cole too we would be a much stronger team already.

                    Reina

Warnock   Agger   Skrtel    Johnson

Cole   Gerrard  Mascherano   Young

       Torres   Agbonlahor

That is a better team than we have an capable of finishing top 4 - crucial tho is that we have a bench 100 times better than we had last year.

If we were to lose a few by choice or if they want to go or a good offer comes in - Babel, maybe Kuyt, Mascherano (would rather not), Aquilani and assuming we get at least some money to spend on top we might still be able to bring in a few more.

I realise there are alot of ifs - but that is kind of my point - while there is the potential for alot of negatives - a few right turns now and things could be back on track soon enough.
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