Topic: The RAWK Football Coaching Circle

[Col]

Well, girls... and ladies. And it's not really playing, more like playing at...

My women lost 1-0 today against a very, very good team. We were dominating the second half, had as blatent a penalty as you're ever likely to see not given, then they went up the other end a minute or two later and scored from a free kick. Fuming.

Two games we've lost through set pieces now.

Not happy.

[Another Red]

I coached a team for the first time this season. My mate's son's team, U12 boys. Decent level, just below the rep teams. Half of the sessions I focused on developing their individual skills (juggling, ball control etc) and half on more team oriented stuff like possession & games.

The emphasis has to be on enjoyment and development/improvement. Not on winning. This is more important for the younger ones, but even when they reach their teenage years I believe this emphasis should not shift. So many players lose interest and give up when they reach their mid teens. This could be for a variety of reasons. Too much emphasis on winning, coaches being too critical etc. Too many talented kids in this age group are lost from the game and I'd suggest that like the really young ones, they need to be handled delicately.

The other thing I see is parents, coaches & players fearful of players losing the ball when in possession. "Get rid of it", "pump it up the middle" & "do something with it" are useless instructions to young players. Players need to be taught to take more responsibilty when in possession, not to be afraid of the ball. This comes through coaching the players to have better ball control. When a young player tries to beat his/her marker in a 1 v 1 and loses the ball, they should be encouraged for the effort rather than berated. If you thought they should've passed the ball instead, tell them in private.

Anyway, I really enjoyed my first season and the boys responded positively to my coaching. I'll definitely be doing again next year.

[afc tukrish]

My women lost 1-0 today against a very, very good team. We were dominating the second half, had as blatent a penalty as you're ever likely to see not given, then they went up the other end a minute or two later and scored from a free kick. Fuming.

Two games we've lost through set pieces now.

Not happy.

On the other hand, losing NE 10 matches 1-0 means your lot are competitive, and when the blessed American disaster otherwise known as the play-offs rolls around...

[Col]

On the other hand, losing NE 10 matches 1-0 means your lot are competitive, and when the blessed American disaster otherwise known as the play-offs rolls around...

We lost by one to the team ranked 16 in the country, and have a game coming up soon against Saint Rose, who are currently ranked no1 in the country as per the pre-season rankings. They've lost once in three years or something daft, have a fully-funded squad, and generally blow everyone else out of the water. I'd be delighted if we could get something from that.

[afc tukrish]

We lost by one to the team ranked 16 in the country, and have a game coming up soon against Saint Rose, who are currently ranked no1 in the country as per the pre-season rankings. They've lost once in three years or something daft, have a fully-funded squad, and generally blow everyone else out of the water. I'd be delighted if we could get something from that.

That's what she said...

[Col]

Don't fancy Stoke vs Man Utd later? Then watch UNH vs St Anselms, live, here:
http://www.newhavenchargers.com/sports/2010/9/2/GE_0902103140.aspx
Kick Off is 6pm GMT, 1pm Eastern.

[afc tukrish]

Don't fancy Stoke vs Man Utd later? Then watch UNH vs St Anselms, live, here:
http://www.newhavenchargers.com/sports/2010/9/2/GE_0902103140.aspx
Kick Off is 6pm GMT, 1pm Eastern.

so i'm on in the 72nd minute, listening for Scouse coaching points about "pass and move..."

[afc tukrish]

That so better not be you walking round in white socks pulled up to the knees, Col...

[Col]

That so better not be you walking round in white socks pulled up to the knees, Col...

Socks up every time mate, it's the only way a coach should be.

What a fucking dire game, by the way. A win is a win and all that, but we've got a long way to go... still, winning ugly is better than not winning!

[afc tukrish]

Socks up every time mate, it's the only way a coach should be.

Oh, dear... 

Congrats and all that, when is the match against powerhouse St. Rose? Any chance of stream for that one?

[Col]

Oh, dear... 

Congrats and all that, when is the match against powerhouse St. Rose? Any chance of stream for that one?

The Saint Rose game is away this year, so not sure if it'll be shown live or not. Either way, I don't think I'll be there - got something boring called 'work' getting in the way.

[Col]

I coached a team for the first time this season. My mate's son's team, U12 boys. Decent level, just below the rep teams. Half of the sessions I focused on developing their individual skills (juggling, ball control etc) and half on more team oriented stuff like possession & games.

The emphasis has to be on enjoyment and development/improvement. Not on winning. This is more important for the younger ones, but even when they reach their teenage years I believe this emphasis should not shift. So many players lose interest and give up when they reach their mid teens. This could be for a variety of reasons. Too much emphasis on winning, coaches being too critical etc. Too many talented kids in this age group are lost from the game and I'd suggest that like the really young ones, they need to be handled delicately.

The other thing I see is parents, coaches & players fearful of players losing the ball when in possession. "Get rid of it", "pump it up the middle" & "do something with it" are useless instructions to young players. Players need to be taught to take more responsibilty when in possession, not to be afraid of the ball. This comes through coaching the players to have better ball control. When a young player tries to beat his/her marker in a 1 v 1 and loses the ball, they should be encouraged for the effort rather than berated. If you thought they should've passed the ball instead, tell them in private.

Anyway, I really enjoyed my first season and the boys responded positively to my coaching. I'll definitely be doing again next year.

I missed this before - exactly the right attitude to have.

Glad the season went well for you.

[kopitecrash]

It's kinda funny.  You hear about how coaches are apprently stuck in the stone ages and then you read this thread it's all about the skills and the enjoyment and the nurturing of talent. Hell, that's how I want to do it. Has the entire ethic of football coaching in the country changed?

[afc tukrish]

It's kinda funny.  You hear about how coaches are apprently stuck in the stone ages and then you read this thread it's all about the skills and the enjoyment and the nurturing of talent. Hell, that's how I want to do it. Has the entire ethic of football coaching in the country changed?

Which country? 

[Col]

It's kinda funny.  You hear about how coaches are apprently stuck in the stone ages and then you read this thread it's all about the skills and the enjoyment and the nurturing of talent. Hell, that's how I want to do it. Has the entire ethic of football coaching in the country changed?

We'll get there... slowly.

But quite a few of us aren't in England.



As an aside, our club may be having a massively, massively special strikers clinic coming up, but I don't want to jinx it before it's all set up and in place. Safe to say, though, if it happens then the players will remember it for the rest of their lives, and I'll be smiling for the rest of the year. Here's hoping!

[Col]

Again, if anyone's even the slightest bit interested, my women's team plays today at 5pm GMT / 12pm Eastern, and can be seen here:

http://www.newhavenchargers.com/sports/2010/9/2/GE_0902103140.aspx


I, however won't be there due to work commitments, so will be watching the stream during my downtime as well.

[AndyInVA]

It's kinda funny.  You hear about how coaches are apprently stuck in the stone ages and then you read this thread it's all about the skills and the enjoyment and the nurturing of talent. Hell, that's how I want to do it. Has the entire ethic of football coaching in the country changed?

which country exactly

its a bit more laid back in the states where kids sports overall are insanely funded and organized and having fun is still part of the ethos

[kopitecrash]

Didn't consider that at all. Darn England is screwed 

[afc tukrish]

UNH sending anyone to WAGS this weekend, Col? Tophat is sending four teams, the 12s, 14s, 16s and 17s, three of which have endured the careful weighted program(me) of sarcasm, derision, and scorn that forms the underpinning of the Urban coaching regimen...

[Col]

UNH sending anyone to WAGS this weekend, Col? Tophat is sending four teams, the 12s, 14s, 16s and 17s, three of which have endured the careful weighted program(me) of sarcasm, derision, and scorn that forms the underpinning of the Urban coaching regimen...

Not that I'm aware of mate - don't have the staff to go galavanting round the country on scouting missions, especially when we've got a game on Saturday! Our recruitment is well underway for next year already - got a couple committed and should have a couple more soon enough. We held a high-school clinic (absolutely not a trial, I hope you understand) a couple of weeks back, but bar two or three players we were already aware of, the standard was pretty poor. A couple of girls made some decent trips to come as well (28 hours on a bus, or three planes anyone?), so it's a shame that they didn't really turn it on.



As an aside, I've been looking at options for my club coaching next year - job searching seems to be a permanent state of mind at the moment!


Do you know of any CT-based teams going to WAGS?

[afc tukrish]

Not that I'm aware of mate - don't have the staff to go galavanting round the country on scouting missions, especially when we've got a game on Saturday! Our recruitment is well underway for next year already - got a couple committed and should have a couple more soon enough. We held a high-school clinic (absolutely not a trial, I hope you understand) a couple of weeks back, but bar two or three players we were already aware of, the standard was pretty poor. A couple of girls made some decent trips to come as well (28 hours on a bus, or three planes anyone?), so it's a shame that they didn't really turn it on.



As an aside, I've been looking at options for my club coaching next year - job searching seems to be a permanent state of mind at the moment!


Do you know of any CT-based teams going to WAGS?

looks pretty skimpy, Beachside has a team in the A flight at u-14, none in the older age groups. Neither Oakwood nor South Central saw fit to send any of their girls sides...

[Col]

looks pretty skimpy, Beachside has a team in the A flight at u-14, none in the older age groups. Neither Oakwood nor South Central saw fit to send any of their girls sides...

Beachside are normally half-decent, but I haven't heard much about them lately. The two decent players in our UNH clinic day were both Oakwood girls.

I'm surprised Yankee, Everton, or Comets haven't sent a team down if Beachside have - must be more important stuff going on a little closer to home I guess.

[afc tukrish]

Beachside are normally half-decent, but I haven't heard much about them lately. The two decent players in our UNH clinic day were both Oakwood girls.

I'm surprised Yankee, Everton, or Comets haven't sent a team down if Beachside have - must be more important stuff going on a little closer to home I guess.

Re an earlier post of yours...


Everton are hiring for next year, you know... 

[Col]

Re an earlier post of yours...


Everton are hiring for next year, you know... 

Why, you little scamp.....!!


Have a gander at this - goals from our 2-1 win today. First is scrappy, but watch for the second (and listen for the commentator saying 'Shit!' when she hits it! )

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=733486680139

[Col]

Our women just lost 3-2 to the top-ranked Division II college in the country. It was 2-2 at half time... they scored with 90 seconds left.

They've lost one game in three years, and we're the first team to score twice past them in a game in 2.


Bittersweet.

[AndyInVA]

hey Col.

Im reffing at a selection weekend again for FC New York in VA in December.

Is your buddy still there. I am guessing he isnt as I think they cleaned house a bit on coaching staff last year.

[Col]

hey Col.

Im reffing at a selection weekend again for FC New York in VA in December.

Is your buddy still there. I am guessing he isnt as I think they cleaned house a bit on coaching staff last year.

To be honest mate I'm not in contact with him anymore, but now as you've mentioned it I do remember hearing some rumours a while back that he'd left. I know his old assistant Charlie isn't there anymore, but couldn't tell you for certain about Matt.

[AndyInVA]

To be honest mate I'm not in contact with him anymore, but now as you've mentioned it I do remember hearing some rumours a while back that he'd left. I know his old assistant Charlie isn't there anymore, but couldn't tell you for certain about Matt.

they are down here in december
should be quite interesting

[Col]

We're expecting some bad weather today, so our game's been moved forward from a 1pm kick-off to 11:30am.

We'll be there at 9:30.


Not too bad really, other than the fact we've got to cross three states to get there! Awake before 5:30 for what should be a lunchtime kick-off... that's just rude.


On the plus side - if we win today, and the team above us loses (we beat them on Wednesday), then we qualify for the playoffs which will be a decent achievement for us. It's out of our own hands, but our rescheduled game time means that if we do win, we'll put the pressure on Adelphi to get something in a pretty tough away game.

Of course, we may drive across three states, play badly, lose, and get stuck in a snowstorm on the bus on the way back. Which would be fun!

[Ryan M]

I'm in Belfast for a few days next week, looking forward to it. Exciting times ahead!

[Col]

We're expecting some bad weather today, so our game's been moved forward from a 1pm kick-off to 11:30am.

We'll be there at 9:30.


Not too bad really, other than the fact we've got to cross three states to get there! Awake before 5:30 for what should be a lunchtime kick-off... that's just rude.


On the plus side - if we win today, and the team above us loses (we beat them on Wednesday), then we qualify for the playoffs which will be a decent achievement for us. It's out of our own hands, but our rescheduled game time means that if we do win, we'll put the pressure on Adelphi to get something in a pretty tough away game.

Of course, we may drive across three states, play badly, lose, and get stuck in a snowstorm on the bus on the way back. Which would be fun!

Fuck right off.


We played, scored after a minute, battled like fuck, and won 1-0.

Adelphi played, 0-0, and went to overtime. They were under the cosh for the last 10 mins of the game, and all of the first half of overtime - the post got hit, the bar got hit, the keeper made a few saves, and the opposition had a barrage of corners. Then, during half time in overtime the Adelphi coach decides that they don't want to play the second half because of the bad weather and the game got abandoned - the result goes down as a draw and we go out of the competition.

Now I'm not saying they definately would've conceded, but they were under a lot of pressure and the opposition deserved the chance to put the game to bed.

How the result of an abandoned match can stand if it directly affects another team is beyond me. If they'd conceded in the second half of overtime then they'd be out of the competition, so instead they refuse to play and get the rest of the game abandoned? That's just not cricket. Our girls were in tears listening to the commentary on the journey back. 'orrible situation.

[afc tukrish]

 Then, during half time in overtime the Adelphi coach decides that they don't want to play the second half because of the bad weather and the game got abandoned - the result goes down as a draw and we go out of the competition.

And you can be certain that by that point, he knew your result and that a draw would be enough. Fucking Mickey Mouse...

[Col]

And you can be certain that by that point, he knew your result and that a draw would be enough. Fucking Mickey Mouse...

Haha yep. I really hope that isn't the case, but if your job's under pressure if you don't make the playoffs then questions are going to be asked.

[Ryan M]

Coates and Enrique appeared at a session I delivered in a school last week, top lads


Back to school with Jose and Seb
23rd Jan 2012 - Latest News
 
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Liverpool stars Jose Enrique and Sebastian Coates went back to school as they took part in some fantastic community department led initiatives.

The duo, who were joined by Liverpool FC Ladies skipper Vicky Jones, visited St. Silas Primary School in Toxteth for the LFC Equality 4 All Scheme, and then Shorefields Community College in Dingle Vale for the LFC Premier League 4 Sport event.

One of the highlights of the day was Enrique, Coates and Jones taking part in a Q and A session with the kids in Spanish. A Spanish teacher was present as the pair were quizzed on their LFC career so far.

The 11-year-olds at St. Silas Primary also took part in a football session under the watchful eye of Enrique and Coates.

Liverpool FC Social Inclusion Officer Rishi Jain said: "To have Jose Enrique and Sebastian Coates come down, meet the kids, join in a session and answer their questions was absolutely brilliant.

"It was really good for both of the players to take part in the Q and A session in Spanish. The school do a lot of work on different languages to reward the kids this way, so to help them practice their Spanish was an absolute pleasure for the club."

"The LFC Equality 4 All Project continues to go from strength to strength. We do 18 hours coaching a week with kids from different areas and ethnic minorities and bring them all together through football."

At Shorefields Community College Enrique and Coates demonstrated their table tennis skills when they took part in the LFC Premier League 4 Sport event, alongside 15 children aged 11 to 13.

The Premier League 4 Sport scheme aims to introduce four different Olympic sports to youngsters in the region - volleyball, table tennis, badminton and netball.

The initiative hopes to curb the drop-off in young people's participation in sports after leaving secondary school, as well as offering five hours of activities to youngsters as part of the government's 2012 legacy plans.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/back-to-school-with-jose-and-seb

[scousepower]

Haven't been on here in a while! Since I last posted about my Level 2. I've passed Level 2 and I'm now coaching an u8's side and we've had 3 games which the lads won 6-1, 3-2 (from 2-0 down) and 8-0 very happy with their development and my own coaching development!

[Corkboy]

I just went to a child protection course, part of the deal for all underage GAA coaching now. It was actually a little soul destroying.

[afc tukrish]

I just went to a child protection course, part of the deal for all underage GAA coaching now. It was actually a little soul destroying.

Do tell...

[Corkboy]

Do tell...

Just the stories they tell you would break your heart. I have no desire to relive them.

[Col]

Just the stories they tell you would break your heart. I have no desire to relive them.

The one I did with my level 1 just seemed to be two hours of being told not to touch the children.

The Australian one was far more educational.



Ryan - that sounds boss, mate!

[Ryan M]

The one I did with my level 1 just seemed to be two hours of being told not to touch the children.

The Australian one was far more educational.



Ryan - that sounds boss, mate!

Cheers Col, bit worried though, since that session, Jose's form dipped and he has now been injured. All my fault!