Topic: Liverpool 1 - 1 Lyon

[Gnurglan]

can't believe people are discussing the permutations. its out of our hands due to a sloppy piece of defending and we'll need more than lady luck.

I was surprised how poor Lyon were and we created enough even with a weakened side to finish them off.

Yes. They had almost nothing since they skyed all their freekicks from decent positions. Should have scored earlier, but we should definitely have been able to keep the lead for just a few minutes.

We are really poor at the moment. 8 games and 1 1 6 is simply terrible. This group was there for the taking. We all thought we got a good or at least decent draw and now we're destined for the Euro League. Just because we are not up to it. 1-0 at home against CL first timers Debrecen is our best result so far.

[LFCfan4Life]

when rafa complains about funds this next summer.....

...let not forget these past 2 weeks

fuck off with this bollocks what has these two weeks got to do with needing some money for better players

[Bugsy Siegel]

Look... Why not run along to your Manc websites and do us a favour... you have spoke tripe now fella... give it a rest

go away you troll.

sad life you must have if u enjoy having so many e-friends

[stoa]

What I don't get is all the stick Kyrgiakos is getting. He made a huge mistake, but not when we conceded. It was the header that almost turned into an assist for the Lyon-striker (whoever that was). The goal was just a fuck up by our whole defence except Carra. Insua misses the header, Agger gets caught in No-Man's land and Kyrgiakos has problems dealing with the two attackers. But then again how could you blame them? Agger certainly is still quite rusty from his long injury, Kyrgiakos has been at the club for five minutes or so and all in all we had to play a new back four once again...

[starlightshadow]

Looks like it's between the Greek and Voronin for this weeks scapegoat.

They're not scapegoats, they're just not very good. There's a difference.

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

The Fa Cup and the Europa League but they not good enough?

Compared to the league and Champions League? No.

We all had incredible high aspirations at the start of this season - in both competitions. To be in the position we are in now - needing other teams to fuck up bigtime (in both the league and CL) is not good enough. 

[Jason McG]

You're probably a very good "fan". You're just not a supporter. Or if you are, you're a very shit one.

couldn't have put that better!

[slickman]

Exactly. Now we just have to cross our fingers and hope when he takes us into the Champions League, we don't get drawn against any team who finished above 3rd in their league.

Agreed but personally i think stuart pearce is the man to take this team forward bright young english manager.

[Fruity]

lucas and masch were good.

but do we really need 2 defensive midfielders??

the way our defense is playing we could probably do with a 3rd

[Lenstar]

I think florientina will beat Lyon. I base that on how they played tonight, piss poor and are through. Lyon have qualified now, although mathmatically possible I think given our squad depth, quality we are bound for the Europa league. A trip to hamburg in may anyone?

[Cochise]

Exactly. Now we just have to cross our fingers and hope when he takes us into the Champions League, we don't get drawn against any team who finished above 3rd in their league.

Weren't the Mancs the then current PL champions?

[Crackerjack Sam]

If it makes anybody feel better, Barca are more or less in the same position.

[JamesG L4]

at that year they already had Carvalho, Bosingwa, Paulo Ferreira, Deco, Quaresma(?), etc - it's like coaching Portugal national team...and they've played together for quite long time

winning football on a budget? so how do you think of Chelsea and Internazionale?

Still pulling people in here! Beautiful.

[rafa forever]

Words can't actually describe how i'm feeling right now.
I think at times we shown how good we are. Even without Gerrard.
I'm just going to look at positives, Babel got a goal. Lucas played well (again) we got a point and ARE STILL in the champions league.

[Nick110581]

Compared to the league and Champions League? No.

We all had incredible high aspirations at the start of this season - in both competitions. To be in the position we are in now - needing other teams to fuck up bigtime (in both the league and CL) is not good enough. 

Well get over and lets try and win some silverware.

[Pheeny]

go away you troll.

No you go away...

[redprodigal]

i can't believe you lot

we were brilliant tonight?  we were shite. did you watch the game?

our passing was piss poor. gave away the ball way too many times in possesion. agger and the greek were terrible.

didn't deserve that? the greek almost handwrapped a goal to lisandro earlier.

if anything lyon should have won.

some of you need to get a grip on reality. it doesn't make u any less of a fan to criticize your team when things are going badly.

i'll repeat, it doesn't make you any less of a fan to criticize your team when things are going badly

tonight was not a good performance, despite what some are saying

That has got to be one of the all time classics. Thank you so much.

[Cruiser]

when rafa complains about funds this next summer.....

...let not forget these past 2 weeks

Yep, the injury crisis has been bad.

[torres09]

Out of the champions league,end of ! (hope this comment comes back to hunt me),doubt it though...those jammy lyon bastards,hope they get fucked next round,they more than likely will.

We'll win the Uefa cup? will we fuck - we couldn't win the fucking conference league cup on this form. things need to change badly,and there's some good teams in the UEFA cup,we need rid of half of those usless bastards such as voronin,he's fucking trash,if he was a racehorse he would be fucking shot as he's effectivly fucking useless.

I'm absuloutly devastated,anger,dejection,every emotion possible,its horrible,just fucking horrible,we didn't deserve this,we played brilliant,if it was over two legs we'd be loving it,but it's not and it looks like we're fucked. Fair play lucas tonight,surprised me.

[Paul JH]

how the fuck am i shit a fan

because i am not blind like so many on here

PEOPLE THINK RAFA IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB

DO YOU SUPPORT RAFA FC OR LIVERPOOL FC

Well, rather than putting your posts in caps to prove how angry you are, fucking tell us all how you'd change things? Who would you bring in then?
Sick to death of Rafa out merchants shouting the odds and then not ever putting forward a decent replacement or argument as to how we'd improve under them ...

[Juan Loco]

Weren't the Mancs the then current PL champions?

And they finished 3rd behind Arsenal and Chelsea that season?

[El Ninos Black Eye]

Rafa needs to go. I'm sick of his ego-driven bollocks dragging the club through the mud. 10 seasons is too many. We need Mourinho in. He's shown he can win on a budget and show a bit of modesty whilst doing so.

Yeah Great idea, Sack Rafa pay him 20m compo, pay a fortune for Mourinho, who ll want  rid of Rafa's backroom(more compo) lose the likes of Torres, Reina and Masch, which the Yanks will take the profits for, so no money to buy new players. Top Idea that lad. We are in the best hands possible with Rafa in charge.
Oh Rafa has an ego, yet you want Mourinho, ha ha
And Mourinho can work with a budget, yeah some budget he had at Chelsea. Yes ok he did well at Porto. But Rafa won 2 Spanish Titles and UEFA on budget. Not to mention what he has done here on a budget

[watyeonaboot]

They're not scapegoats, they're just not very good. There's a difference.

Exactly. I'll excuse Kyrgiakos, although it was Voro's chance to bury bad feelings forever tonight.

[Koplass]

Feel a bit sick after that, so underserving. Bossed the game, great performances from Masch, Lucas, Agger, Benayoun and Insua, unbelivable goal from Babel and then let down by a small defensive mistake in the final minutes.

When things aren't going your way they just aren't. Then you see the likes of Manchester United getting equalisers from jammy deflections when they don't play half as well as we did. That's just the way things are going at the moment, hopefully our luck will change soon because we're owed an absolutely massive dose of it and I pray that the Gods of football decide to issue it for the Fiorentina-Lyon game.

[xavidub]

Sloppy finishing, compounded by sloppy defending.

I think we are done now in this competition. We have to be realistic and look at the whole picture. We haven't been good enough in this competition, which is why we are where we are right now, staring down the barrel of elimination from the group. It's not a knee-jerk reaction, the table doesn't lie and the truth is right now, we're not good enough, and haven't been good enough, for a 'Liverpool Team' all season. It's hard to take, but it's the way it is right now.

Looking at Lyon tonight, they'd be lucky to stay on the right side of a 3-0 thrashing by Fiorentina - Lyon were poor. And for all the possession and all the missed chances, to get a draw, to score only one goal against Lyon tonight, confirms we're just not and are not good enough to progress any further. Lyon will not beat Fiorentina, and we will go out. All the YNWA's, 'believe's and will not convince me otherwise. It's a pessimistic, but realistic outlook.

We have to make a decision. Rafa, if it's true he looks 4 or 5 games ahead, needs to wind up concentration in this comp and focus on the league. It may sound madness, but with some more big games coming up, another frankly fucking pointless International as well, and nearly half the squad, injured, tired, ill or in need of operations, we need to take stock. Continue throwing limited and valuable resources at a comp which we have next to no chance of progressing out of, or a League, in which we are equally as dire, but which is fundamental to ensuring our chances of being in the CL next year?

With Babels goal I thought we could just do it, but once we surrendered again, I knew that we'd come as far as we could in this comp - it's time to accept what's happening and channel our time, energy and resources into other area's which need just as much if not more attention.

I'm gutted about tonight, totally gutted, but it's time to change priorities.

I agree

[smicer07]

Fuck me, Juan Loco, your keepnet is going to be full at this rate!

[Nick110581]

I think florientina will beat Lyon. I base that on how they played tonight, piss poor and are through. Lyon have qualified now, although mathmatically possible I think given our squad depth, quality we are bound for the Europa league. A trip to hamburg in may anyone?

Who knows? Lyon may want to finish top.

And the Europa League is not good enough for some of our 'fans' so might be spares kicking around if we get there!

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

What happened with the injury time tonight?

There was 1 minute and 58 seconds added on. They scored in the 90th minute, no? There were at least 4 substitutions, no?

30 seconds per goal celebration
30 seconds per substitution
= at least 3 minutes.

[xavidub]

Yeah Great idea, Sack Rafa pay him 20m compo, pay a fortune for Mourinho, who ll want  rid of Rafa's backroom(more compo) lose the likes of Torres, Reina and Masch, which the Yanks will take the profits for, so no money to buy new players. Top Idea that lad. We are in the best hands possible with Rafa in charge.
Oh Rafa has an ego, yet you want Mourinho, ha ha
And Mourinho can work with a budget, yeah some budget he had at Chelsea. Yes ok he did well at Porto. But Rafa won 2 Spanish Titles and UEFA on budget. Not to mention what he has done here on a budget

Boo-Ya

[finchy1972]

Got to say we played really well , there keeper had a good game and we missed some great chances but hey hoe lets fuckin press on we've still a lot to play for , its not over .

[kopilot]

Still pulling people in here! Beautiful.

haha...i just read the reply...shit :p removed it

[Fanxxxxtastic]

Just gutted.... all the fuck wits will be out in force over next few days....

Media black out for me, and I'm digging my tin hat out.

Watching Carra now.  The man's truly gutted.

[Bugsy Siegel]

fuck off with this bollocks what has these two weeks got to do with needing some money for better players

no doubt we're going to lose out on some big cash by not advancing in the CL

[Fordy]

Played well tonight.

should of won. Clearly we should not getting the rub of the green at the min.

[FernandoTourettes]

That has got to be one of the all time classics. Thank you so much.

Great sig! 

[Conquistadors]

If it makes anybody feel better, Barca are more or less in the same position.

Bayern are in a worse position than Barca

[usernamefc]

Feel absolutely gutted.

[greebo]

I think florientina will beat Lyon. I base that on how they played tonight, piss poor and are through. Lyon have qualified now, although mathmatically possible I think given our squad depth, quality we are bound for the Europa league. A trip to hamburg in may anyone?

Hamburg!! hell yeah.

remember dortmund in 2001?? what a great time.

will be the shining star in a poor season!!

seems the best chance of sucess this year.

[redprodigal]

go away you troll.

sad life you must have if u enjoy having so many e-friends

Fuck off you Manc c*nt

[Arthur Phillipson]

I honestly think Andriy Voronin would not get a game in the Coca-Cola Championship.