I'm not sure if they burn churches, but both Kroda and Nokturnal Mortum are Ukrainian bands and their members are also part of some extreme right wing groups. Most of Kroda's songs are about Paganism and history as far as I know (But one of their songs starts with the line "No Jews!" ). The guys from Nokturnal Mortum label themselves as NSBM (National Socialist Black Metal). They believe in racial purity and don't like the mixing of different races. One of the guys from Nokturnal Mortum described himself as a terrorist in an interview.
So like I said, if a band's beliefs aren't a problem, try them.
Aye. It's all very sad really, but there you go, they make quality music. I've had loads of shit from people who don't listen to metal at all who've seen somthing to do with a certain band and the ideologies that the band members believe in and it makes me fucking laugh it really does. I've been called most names under the sun at differing times "nazi" and "satanist" being the favourites, which fucking cracks me up to be honest, especially the first one.
"How can you listen to that stuff, it peddles evil"
"really? Which bit of their lyrics offended you specifically when you were listening to them?"
"Oh, well i haven't heard any...."
me
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It's all about the music for me. If it kicks ass I don't care if it's NSBM, Satanic, Christian, Buddhist, Islamic, straight edge......whatever. I'm a strong enough individual to be able to like musically brilliant stuff and not suddenlt become a braindead wanker because of some lyrics i read. The other thing is that most of the general herd don't understand that any publicity is good publicity. A lot of these bands say and do things that upset people because it gets them attention.
I remember Gorgoroth being banned from Poland because during a show they had a naked woman on a cross (actually i think it might have been a few). You can bet your cash that there was a lot of Polish black metal fans who started listening to them after that. Stuff that symoblises things that the "establishment" doesn't like always sells as it's a "symbol" to some people.
I had an interesting.....conversation with a mate of mine a while back. He's a big fan of hip hop, but older stuff. Happens to be giving me grief over my love of what he called "white supremacist" music. So I said to him "Sorry mate, but you can fuck off considering you're a massive, massive fan of Straight outta compton by NWA (so am I btw) which is every bit as racist and absurd as some of the stuff i listen which gets no airplay and no media coverage."
Apparently "it's not the same". Dozy fucker
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. There's corruption, racism and stupidity in every single ascpect of the music industry and pretty much every genre going. But it's always metal that gets the shitty end of the stick, because it's always been cool to have a go at "the devils music"
In the words of Bill Hicks.:
"They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure... At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block...I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out."
Amen to that.
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And seeing as i'm babbling on in here, I might as well go over what i've been listening to this week. 2 albums ahve come my way. First is The Isolationist by American Black Metaller(s) Krieg
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Excellent stuff. Very, very raw black metal, quite an opressive sound....claustrophobic when listened to on headphones in the dark (
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yeah i love it....)
and secondly the self titled 3rd album ( i think) from Daath
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Kinda brutal in places, groovey in others. Kinda death metal, very well produced, but not over produced and commercial sounding. Hard to describe them really considering everything else i listen to, but they do float my boat musically, so there you go
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I think i've jibbered on enough in this post....don't you?
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