Author Topic: SPOILERS The Chainless Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon Discussion (Read 1055377 times)

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11560 on:** March 25, 2019, 06:48:32 pm »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on March 25, 2019, 05:00:45 pm

And that scene like others are based on Greek myth;

"Agamemnon offends the goddess Artemis on his way to the Trojan War. She retaliates by preventing the Greek troops from reaching Troy unless Agamemnon kills Iphigenia at Aulis as a human sacrifice."

And the scene were Arya Stark serves up Walder Frey's sons to him in a pie is also based on a Greek myth;

"Atreus then learned of Thyestes' and Aerope's adultery and plotted revenge. He killed Thyestes' sons and cooked them, save their hands and heads. He served Thyestes his own sons and then taunted him with their hands and heads. This is the source of modern phrase "Thyestean Feast," or one at which human flesh is served."

So GOT is a cross between Greek myth, the internecine feuding of the Plantagenets and the Wars of the Roses. Except Henry Tudor had no dragons.

He did live in exile though and isn't he Welsh too, so that's where the Dragon come in.

You are right though the show is based on a lot of different historic cultures, sure I read somewhere that the Dothraki were based on Red Indian and Mogols culture, there is an pre-Islamic link to the Fire God religion as well. It's like he has taken a bit of everything and mixed it all together and come up with Westeros. Like all authors do.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #11561 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:01:06 pm »

Quote from: Ray K on March 25, 2019, 04:40:57 pm

Makes sense, given that it's a Queen song on the opening credits

Brilliant

royhendo · « **Reply #11562 on:** March 26, 2019, 08:50:34 am »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 25, 2019, 04:51:01 pm

That’s actually helped!

Ah that's good... so I can't remember if it was in the show but in the first book when King Robert wanted Danaerys killed off, Peter Baelish says they could get a faceless man to do it but it'd be too expensive cos even killing a normal person would cost more than a small army of mercenaries. So they're killers for hire... and Arya has always had someone teaching her how to be a killer. First it's John Snow, then it's Syrio Forel, then it's this lot, and eventually she shows up at Winterfell and outfights Brienne of Tarth while playing with her. She's the grim reaper innit?

Nobby Reserve · « **Reply #11563 on:** March 26, 2019, 05:15:28 pm »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 24, 2019, 08:53:21 pm

YES! No idea what her name is either.

Then there were the Asian women and the dothraki whim I doubt anyone knows any of the names of.

There’s the bloke with the beard who burned his daughter alive too.

And the stark that’s the three eyed raven. No idea what his name is, fuck all idea what the three eyed raven is all about.

Oh, and what about the caveman girl who shags Jon Snow and is his proper wife?

Bet you remember Hodor, though.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #11564 on:** March 26, 2019, 07:34:12 pm »

Quote from: Nobby Reserve on March 26, 2019, 05:15:28 pm

Bet you remember Hodor, though.

I have absolutely no idea who that is. Genuinely..

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11565 on:** March 26, 2019, 08:31:33 pm »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 26, 2019, 07:34:12 pm

I have absolutely no idea who that is. Genuinely..

I don't believe you watch this show at all....

Hold the door.. ....

vagabond · « **Reply #11566 on:** March 26, 2019, 08:38:30 pm »

Quote from: jillc on March 26, 2019, 08:31:33 pm

I don't believe you watch this show at all....

I think he just watches the tits, minge etc that he mentioned a couple of pages ago...

TepidT2O · « **Reply #11567 on:** March 26, 2019, 08:41:22 pm »

Quote from: vagabond on March 26, 2019, 08:38:30 pm

I think he just watches the tits, minge etc that he mentioned a couple of pages ago...

Hey! Harsh!

I do really enjoy the show, but my wife and I get equally lost with who is who. I generally watch it after a tiring day, so I think this has an impact on my mental awareness at the time

TepidT2O · « **Reply #11568 on:** March 26, 2019, 08:42:02 pm »

However. What the fuck is the three eyed raven all about? I’ve always got lost with that one.

Musketeer Gripweed · « **Reply #11569 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:04:59 pm »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 26, 2019, 08:42:02 pm

However. What the fuck is the three eyed raven all about? I’ve always got lost with that one.

That's the tattoo I have on my chest.

Like you though, I don't quite get it. I think it's Bran Stark, or does he just dream about it? Then he becomes it later on so he can see the spoilers to tell people who they shouldn't be shagging. Or something.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #11570 on:** March 26, 2019, 09:16:19 pm »

it's a raven, with 3 eyes.

royhendo · « **Reply #11571 on:** March 27, 2019, 08:48:22 am »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on March 25, 2019, 05:00:45 pm

So GOT is a cross between Greek myth, the internecine feuding of the Plantagenets and the Wars of the Roses. Except Henry Tudor had no dragons.

Are you on the "Lucifer Means Lightbringer" Mystical Astronomy podcast dude?

royhendo · « **Reply #11572 on:** March 27, 2019, 08:56:45 am »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 26, 2019, 08:42:02 pm

However. What the fuck is the three eyed raven all about? I’ve always got lost with that one.

The three eyed raven was a fella called Brynden Rivers (meaning he was a bastard child from the bit in the middle of the continent called The Riverlands) and his dad was (I think) the Targaryen (the dragon family) king... but *back story interlude music* there are magical trees throughout the continent that hook up into a kind of medieval Internet, and creatures with a power called "green sight" can plug their hairy modems into that Internet.

Long story short, Brynden left his hairy modem hooked up to the Weirwood Internet so long that his bum became impaled by a tree, and he merged with said tree, and inherited a role called the Three Eyed Raven (meaning his third eye was opened... as well as his hairy brown eye)... and he handed his hairy baton over to Bran, but he has wireless bluetooth hookup and doesn't need his bum impaled on a tree to maintain his connection.

So Bran is now the Bluetooth Three Eyed Raven.

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #11573 on:** March 27, 2019, 11:30:43 am »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 08:56:45 am

The three eyed raven was a fella called Brynden Rivers (meaning he was a bastard child from the bit in the middle of the continent called The Riverlands) and his dad was (I think) the Targaryen (the dragon family) king... but *back story interlude music* there are magical trees throughout the continent that hook up into a kind of medieval Internet, and creatures with a power called "green sight" can plug their hairy modems into that Internet.

Long story short, Brynden left his hairy modem hooked up to the Weirwood Internet so long that his bum became impaled by a tree, and he merged with said tree, and inherited a role called the Three Eyed Raven (meaning his third eye was opened... as well as his hairy brown eye)... and he handed his hairy baton over to Bran, but he has wireless bluetooth hookup and doesn't need his bum impaled on a tree to maintain his connection.

So Bran is now the Bluetooth Three Eyed Raven.

this is a superb explanation

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #11574 on:** March 27, 2019, 11:31:50 am »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 08:48:22 am

Are you on the "Lucifer Means Lightbringer" Mystical Astronomy podcast dude?

No...but I get the Lucifer reference.

I grew up on Greek myths. I had the Larousse encyclopedia of Greek myths which had the advantage of legally (in a Catholic household) allowing me to feast my eyes on classically nude paintings. A bit like Game of Thrones I suppose.

afc tukrish · « **Reply #11575 on:** March 27, 2019, 11:48:20 am »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 08:56:45 am

The three eyed raven was a fella called Brynden Rivers (meaning he was a bastard child from the bit in the middle of the continent called The Riverlands) and his dad was (I think) the Targaryen (the dragon family) king... but *back story interlude music* there are magical trees throughout the continent that hook up into a kind of medieval Internet, and creatures with a power called "green sight" can plug their hairy modems into that Internet.

Long story short, Brynden left his hairy modem hooked up to the Weirwood Internet so long that his bum became impaled by a tree, and he merged with said tree, and inherited a role called the Three Eyed Raven (meaning his third eye was opened... as well as his hairy brown eye)... and he handed his hairy baton over to Bran, but he has wireless bluetooth hookup and doesn't need his bum impaled on a tree to maintain his connection.

So Bran is now the Bluetooth Three Eyed Raven.

Game of Bums...

royhendo · « **Reply #11576 on:** March 27, 2019, 12:53:32 pm »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on March 27, 2019, 11:31:50 am

No...but I get the Lucifer reference.

I grew up on Greek myths. I had the Larousse encyclopedia of Greek myths which had the advantage of legally (in a Catholic household) allowing me to feast my eyes on classically nude paintings. A bit like Game of Thrones I suppose.

The podcast might be right up your street. I grew up browsing the Joseph Campbell books and the podcast goes from the obvious myth within the story (Khalisi, it is known...) to Arthurian, Norse, Pagan, to Lord Of The Rings... it’s fun. Martin and Tolkein clearly like/liked to play with all that stuff.

DanJay87 · « **Reply #11577 on:** March 27, 2019, 12:59:58 pm »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on March 25, 2019, 05:00:45 pm

So GOT is a cross between Greek myth, the internecine feuding of the Plantagenets and the Wars of the Roses. Except Henry Tudor had no dragons.

Well no real ones, but his banners on the march from Milford Haven to the Battle Of Bosworth sure did.

Qston · « **Reply #11578 on:** March 27, 2019, 01:01:03 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 08:56:45 am

The three eyed raven was a fella called Brynden Rivers (meaning he was a bastard child from the bit in the middle of the continent called The Riverlands) and his dad was (I think) the Targaryen (the dragon family) king... but *back story interlude music* there are magical trees throughout the continent that hook up into a kind of medieval Internet, and creatures with a power called "green sight" can plug their hairy modems into that Internet.

Long story short, Brynden left his hairy modem hooked up to the Weirwood Internet so long that his bum became impaled by a tree, and he merged with said tree, and inherited a role called the Three Eyed Raven (meaning his third eye was opened... as well as his hairy brown eye)... and he handed his hairy baton over to Bran, but he has wireless bluetooth hookup and doesn't need his bum impaled on a tree to maintain his connection.

So Bran is now the Bluetooth Three Eyed Raven.

Thank you for that. A simple explanation for simple folk like me.

royhendo · « **Reply #11579 on:** March 27, 2019, 01:09:29 pm »

Any more for any more?

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #11580 on:** March 27, 2019, 01:15:58 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 01:09:29 pm

Any more for any more?

Why is Jaime Lannister banging his sister?

afc tukrish · « **Reply #11581 on:** March 27, 2019, 01:50:30 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on March 27, 2019, 01:15:58 pm

Why is Jaime Lannister banging his sister?

This one perhaps may require a consumption rather than digital communication allegory...

TepidT2O · « **Reply #11582 on:** March 27, 2019, 01:59:09 pm »

Quote from: Qston on March 27, 2019, 01:01:03 pm

Thank you for that. A simple explanation for simple folk like me.

:

Roy explains it all

I literally had no idea what was going on with it.

vagabond · « **Reply #11583 on:** March 27, 2019, 02:16:07 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 08:56:45 am

The three eyed raven was a fella called Brynden Rivers (meaning he was a bastard child from the bit in the middle of the continent called The Riverlands) and his dad was (I think) the Targaryen (the dragon family) king... but *back story interlude music* there are magical trees throughout the continent that hook up into a kind of medieval Internet, and creatures with a power called "green sight" can plug their hairy modems into that Internet.

Long story short, Brynden left his hairy modem hooked up to the Weirwood Internet so long that his bum became impaled by a tree, and he merged with said tree, and inherited a role called the Three Eyed Raven (meaning his third eye was opened... as well as his hairy brown eye)... and he handed his hairy baton over to Bran, but he has wireless bluetooth hookup and doesn't need his bum impaled on a tree to maintain his connection.

So Bran is now the Bluetooth Three Eyed Raven.

This is excellent, the only thing that I would add is that the internet seems to be a collection of events (past, present, future?) that occurred in and around the weirwood trees and so all of those events are available to anyone that can plug in

royhendo · « **Reply #11584 on:** March 27, 2019, 02:52:45 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on March 27, 2019, 01:15:58 pm

Why is Jaime Lannister banging his sister?

Jaime's hairy dongle hooked up to his sister's USB port (hairy status unknown) so as to deposit his tangy man-data into her uterine tamigotchi maker... ? Neither Jaime nor his sister have green sight, but she's got three tamigotchis and the millenium bug (or Maggie the Frog bug) has been prophecised for all of them, and for her (thrappled by the bruv, bruv), but only if they have the right colour of hair.

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 27, 2019, 01:59:09 pm

I literally had no idea what was going on with it.

Oh and once upon a time there was uniform network coverage across the whole continent, but in recent generations coverage in the southern regions has been compromised by hoodlums cutting down the network masts (aka trees).

TepidT2O · « **Reply #11585 on:** March 27, 2019, 08:00:08 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 02:52:45 pm

Jaime's hairy dongle hooked up to his sister's USB port (hairy status unknown) so as to deposit his tangy man-data into her uterine tamigotchi maker... ? Neither Jaime nor his sister have green sight, but she's got three tamigotchis and the millenium bug (or Maggie the Frog bug) has been prophecised for all of them, and for her (thrappled by the bruv, bruv), but only if they have the right colour of hair.

Oh and once upon a time there was uniform network coverage across the whole continent, but in recent generations coverage in the southern regions has been compromised by hoodlums cutting down the network masts (aka trees).

Really? This has passed me by completely

I’m going to ask you what’s happening after each episode of the last series

oojason · « **Reply #11586 on:** March 27, 2019, 08:12:19 pm »

'Game of Thrones season 8 documentary to air on HBO after finale'...

https://ew.com/tv/2019/03/27/game-of-thrones-documentary/

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #11587 on:** March 27, 2019, 08:15:21 pm »

Quote from: oojason on March 27, 2019, 08:12:19 pm

'Game of Thrones season 8 documentary to air on HBO after finale'...

https://ew.com/tv/2019/03/27/game-of-thrones-documentary/

...Narrated by royhendo.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #11588 on:** March 27, 2019, 09:30:44 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on March 27, 2019, 02:52:45 pm

Jaime's hairy dongle hooked up to his sister's USB port (hairy status unknown) so as to deposit his tangy man-data into her uterine tamigotchi maker... ? Neither Jaime nor his sister have green sight, but she's got three tamigotchis and the millenium bug (or Maggie the Frog bug) has been prophecised for all of them, and for her (thrappled by the bruv, bruv), but only if they have the right colour of hair.

Oh and once upon a time there was uniform network coverage across the whole continent, but in recent generations coverage in the southern regions has been compromised by hoodlums cutting down the network masts (aka trees).

Pretty sure that hairy status of her USB port was confirmed in the 'Shame' episode

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #11589 on:** March 27, 2019, 10:33:45 pm »

Quote from: DanJay87 on March 27, 2019, 12:59:58 pm

Well no real ones, but his banners on the march from Milford Haven to the Battle Of Bosworth sure did.

That is one scary dragon. Not only is it breathing fire, it's shitting napalm.

royhendo · « **Reply #11590 on:** March 28, 2019, 06:48:51 am »

Quote from: Barneylfc on March 27, 2019, 09:30:44 pm

Pretty sure that hairy status of her USB port was confirmed in the 'Shame' episode

Genuinely just woke my son up with laughter.

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #11591 on:** March 28, 2019, 01:52:24 pm »

Quote from: Djozer on March 24, 2019, 08:10:19 pm

Narp, I'm not having that.

I know that Mickey Luv does the banking. Seems like an odd choice for the job, but there you go.

And Ser Barristan Selmy left the Mother of Dragons in the lurch to retire to Derry so he can make his useless prick of a son-in-law's life a misery.

gamble · « **Reply #11592 on:** April 1, 2019, 09:40:13 am »

April is here! What a wait this has been.

I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.

Trada · « **Reply #11593 on:** April 1, 2019, 01:56:42 pm »

Surely the crypts will have a part to play the last series the night king will already have a ready available army inside the defenses.

All the dead kings and Queens etc rising up.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #11594 on:** April 1, 2019, 03:58:10 pm »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on March 28, 2019, 01:52:24 pm

And Ser Barristan Selmy left the Mother of Dragons in the lurch to retire to Derry so he can make his useless prick of a son-in-law's life a misery.

Who dat?

Ray K · « **Reply #11595 on:** April 1, 2019, 04:49:37 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on April 1, 2019, 03:58:10 pm

Who dat?

Same actor who keeps calling his son-in-law Tommy Tiernan on Derry Girls a waste of space

royhendo · « **Reply #11596 on:** April 1, 2019, 05:35:58 pm »

And went on a murderous revenge rampage in Silent Witness.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #11597 on:** April 1, 2019, 05:46:04 pm »

He also likes playing dress up as Superman’s Great, Great Grandad.

Musketeer Gripweed · « **Reply #11598 on:** April 1, 2019, 09:11:01 pm »

One sound of the horn for rangers, two for wildlings and three for White Walkers, correct?

Who actually sounds the horn?

royhendo · « **Reply #11599 on:** April 1, 2019, 10:53:47 pm »

Quote from: Musketeer Gripweed on April 1, 2019, 09:11:01 pm

One sound of the horn for rangers, two for wildlings and three for White Walkers, correct?

Who actually sounds the horn?

Patrol on the top of the wall of wherever they’re stationed no?