Author Topic: CL Draw - Chelsea again then Barca/Bayern.... (Read 91336 times)

Dubit10 · « **Reply #1320 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:25:32 pm »

can't believe we got those shithouses again

Sick to death of playing them. Nobody and i mean nobody can tell me the draw is'nt fixed. The mancs always get easy knockout games.

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #1321 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:29:08 pm »

Quote from: Dubit10 on March 20, 2009, 08:25:32 pm

can't believe we got those shithouses again Sick to death of playing them. Nobody and i mean nobody can tell me the draw is'nt fixed. The mancs always get easy knockout games.

Its not fixed

4pool · « **Reply #1322 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:31:23 pm »

Quote from: redprodigal on March 20, 2009, 07:13:03 pm

They all went almost as loopy as we did when Danny scored his goal, great reaction that.

That's the highest Crouch jumped all season.

farawayred · « **Reply #1323 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:32:46 pm »

Quote from: Dubit10 on March 20, 2009, 08:25:32 pm

can't believe we got those shithouses again Sick to death of playing them. Nobody and i mean nobody can tell me the draw is'nt fixed. The mancs always get easy knockout games.

Don't be so silly! We will beat Porto in Rome!

Zeb · « **Reply #1324 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:37:35 pm »

Kinell.

Hope they show some class at their place.

ferris05 · « **Reply #1325 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:38:00 pm »

Is there an Away leg confirmed date?

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #1326 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:40:37 pm »

Quote from: Mattyy on March 20, 2009, 08:13:51 pm

EDIT - Actually it could be a nightmare - he could put Lucas in for the first leg!

Hopefully you won't get a ticket and he'll have one less boo-boy to cope with. The lad's a very good player and has done an excellent job against the big teams this season. I'd be more than happy to see him fill in for Mascherano.

conman · « **Reply #1327 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:40:54 pm »

cant wait for the atmosphere in the bridge, hope they have some mass produced blue flags laid out on all the seats again...

historymakers:lfc · « **Reply #1328 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:44:35 pm »

Quote from: ferris05 on March 20, 2009, 08:38:00 pm

Is there an Away leg confirmed date?

April 8th (or 7th) First Leg (Home)

April 14th Second Leg (Away)

carra1892 · « **Reply #1329 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:44:42 pm »

Again, just finish them off in the quarters, doesn't make much difference with the semis, but it is a bit boring. Question: don't think i can get a ticket, but if there is a chance, does anyone know how to get one or do you have to buy it for al really high price at some sort of sports organisation who arranges these trips?

Shabby · « **Reply #1330 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:48:19 pm »

Quote from: lachesis on March 20, 2009, 03:52:48 pm

I hate this circle of bullshit that goes round after draws, and the tired old cliches and call to arms of bravery and belief.

Sure we can beat anyone on our day, that's unarguable. I remember everyone wanking and having the same attitude when we drew the bitters in the FA Cup, the fucking worst draw any liverpool fan would want. Anyone remember what happened there?

The draw is what it is, and it's a fucking abomination of a draw. We're playing Chelsea again, and the reality is that we can win, or we could lose. Instead of going to Europe we're going to London. The games are close and we have beat them twice already this season with the first leg at home, which we hate.

We will lose one of the three teams capable of beating United in this competition at the first stage, who are also chasing them in the league, which could be instrumental to any sort of dip in form domestically. After that, we play Barcelona or Bayern, both of whom are the other strongest teams left in the tournament.

Meanwhile United have Porto, then play Arsenal or Villareal if they get through. The favour is there in Uniteds corner for a defence of the double. ~I believe we are one of four teams that can potentially win the CL this season, but I also see the draw for what it is - absolute shite, and a real uphill struggle with the opposite side of the draw being exactly what we would have wanted. so United will be made up. That doesn't make me negative or such other shite, it makes me realistic. The crux of this season now lies with our choice, and I think we need to decide which competition we want to fully focus on, because putting too much pressure on our resources will cause us to snap and probably miss out in both by a small step.

Having said that, the double for us would be an unrivalled achievement, the fact we claim the titles off United would be the icing on the cake.

When in Rome, we don't lose - aye, that's true, but let's get to Rome first.

What he said. Can we win this comp? Of course we can, we can beat anyone on our day, but in order to win this competition we have to be on top of our game for the next seven while the Mancs don't even have to break a sweat to make the final, and that's tough to swallow at the moment.

conman · « **Reply #1331 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:48:25 pm »

Quote from: carra1892 on March 20, 2009, 08:44:42 pm

Again, just finish them off in the quarters, doesn't make much difference with the semis, but it is a bit boring. Question: don't think i can get a ticket, but if there is a chance, does anyone know how to get one or do you have to buy it for al really high price at some sort of sports organisation who arranges these trips?

at the bridge, plastic flags get free entry i hear..

carra1892 · « **Reply #1332 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:53:39 pm »

Quote from: conman on March 20, 2009, 08:48:25 pm

at the bridge, plastic flags get free entry i hear..

hehehehe!, waving a plastic flag isnt going to happen :p

yafoy · « **Reply #1333 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:56:13 pm »

at least the lads dont have to check the maps to see where they have to play...also a bit of a "revenge" feel for us to "cleanse" poor lad JARs OG at Anfield and losing to fall-over specialist Drogba,, plus Rafa will be up for out-smarting their Guus Huddink (just his name is enough to give U a migrain!) just show them pics of the lads walking off after the semis last time..come on, lets have em..IF we play OUR best for the rest of the season...well its just possible...
come on U REDS!

Mattyy · « **Reply #1334 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:58:05 pm »

Quote from: yorkykopite on March 20, 2009, 08:40:37 pm

Hopefully you won't get a ticket and he'll have one less boo-boy to cope with. The lad's a very good player and has done an excellent job against the big teams this season. I'd be more than happy to see him fill in for Mascherano.

If Lucas plays he will always get my full support - I would just rather have Mash in there. Lucas's weakness is his tackling and tracking and having Lampard coming on to him I think he will struggle. He plays better with Masc alongside him (like last week) rather than Alonso. Is that his weakness or Alonso's? Not sure. Anyway if he is in lets hope he has a good one

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #1335 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:59:32 pm »

Quote from: Mattyy on March 20, 2009, 08:58:05 pm

If Lucas plays he will always get my full support - I would just rather have Mash in there. Lucas's weakness is his tackling and tracking and having Lampard coming on to him I think he will struggle. He plays better with Masc alongside him (like last week) rather than Alonso. Is that his weakness or Alonso's? Not sure. Anyway if he is in lets hope he has a good one

Glad to hear it.

How many times has he played alongside Alonso?

Redshadow · « **Reply #1336 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:01:28 pm »

Take a deep breath. It is a good draw. No complacency is allowed and we will have to fight all the way, Just like in '05, no easy game right to the end!!! Bring it on!!

Mattyy · « **Reply #1337 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:01:51 pm »

Quote from: yorkykopite on March 20, 2009, 08:59:32 pm

Glad to hear it.

How many times has he played alongside Alonso?

Not sure but top 4 this season he played the 1-1 Arsenal game with Alonso

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #1338 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:06:17 pm »

Quote from: Redshadow on March 20, 2009, 09:01:28 pm

Take a deep breath. It is a good draw. No complacency is allowed and we will have to fight all the way, Just like in '05, no easy game right to the end!!! Bring it on!!

If we wanna be the best we have to beat the best...

macca888 · « **Reply #1339 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:16:11 pm »

Quote from: jeffiner1892 on March 20, 2009, 09:06:17 pm

If we wanna be the best we have to beat the b rest...

Woah oh oh, dedication's what you need!

BCCC · « **Reply #1340 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:18:48 pm »

I'm more confident that we can beat them than any of the previous meetings but just pissed off we've got 'em again.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #1341 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:32:24 pm »

Quote from: Mattyy on March 20, 2009, 09:01:51 pm

Not sure but top 4 this season he played the 1-1 Arsenal game with Alonso

OK, I'll re-phrase it. Which games has Lucas played alongside Alonso where you think he's been poor?

lionel_messias · « **Reply #1342 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:36:12 pm »

Its a harder draw than what they've got in the other half. We like it harder.

We'll look to melt Chelsea in the white heat of Anfield. And then we'll look to win in London too.

MagicB8all · « **Reply #1343 on:** March 20, 2009, 09:47:45 pm »

Quote from: cakmin on March 20, 2009, 08:16:51 pm

I'm just looking forward to watching Rafa vs Guus Part II or III. I think it is safe to say the winner of this battle should be called the best tactician in Europe bar none. Guus is one of the best managers in the world and now he has unlimited resources in Chelsea. Unlike PSV, Guus with Chelsea are really a tough team to play against.

I just hope we don't make a mistake like we did against them last season, touch wood, and finally playing at home first is really a bad idea. UEFA really don't like us, do they?

doesn't always work that way - it's not just the tactics its the execution of the players. for example Babel's back heel to Gerrard - was expertly executed ( or at least well enough) the finish wasn't. Does that mean Babel lacked awareness ?

Gnurglan · « **Reply #1344 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:02:33 pm »

So it's the yearly Chelsea draw for us. Typical. Unfortunately the Mancs got a fantastic draw and I can't see them miss the Final.

rushandapush · « **Reply #1345 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:16:28 pm »

Lets face we will play the mancs in the final. It's looked liked it might happen a couple of times. This time it will happen in Rome and we will win 2-0.

YJT · « **Reply #1346 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:26:51 pm »

funny how some people are putting us in the underdog role. A local paper here in switzerland started their report of the draw by saying.'seven teams were hoping to avoid liverpool in the quarter finals. the team it struck was chelsea' they have us down as favourites and shows that our form hasn't gone unnoticed

choi · « **Reply #1347 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:34:47 pm »

A tale of two Kensingtons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehOI3R5OdmI

ferris05 · « **Reply #1348 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:44:20 pm »

Is Trafalgar square happening?

I mean with it being only the quaters.

Seriously though is it?

Milly B · « **Reply #1349 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:47:13 pm »

Quote from: ferris05 on March 20, 2009, 10:44:20 pm

Is Trafalgar square happening?

I mean with it being only the quaters.

Seriously though is it?

Can't see why not mate.

bootroom boy · « **Reply #1350 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:47:26 pm »

One game at a time. We can beat any of the teams left in the competition.
They should fear us more than we should fear them!
However I can understand peoples anxiety. We have had too many false dawns in previous regimes. Yes we may be feeling the draw has been unkind to us and kind to united but think about when we drew Benfica and what they did to us.
Many will be thinking 'we've done the double over Chelsea this year odds must be that they're due a good result against us.' Or if we do reach the final and meet united then odds our that we will lose simply because of what we have done to them this season.
PLEASE KEEP THE FAITH AND BELIEVE! WE'VE HAD A GREAT WEEK AND WHY CAN'T IT CONTINUE?
If we can steer clear from injuries and bans, why can't we go unbeaten until the end of the season. United should win the league, its in their hands, but 'OLD BIG EARS' isn't. I'll admit I want to be in Rome in May and would prefer not to play united. Why? Because of the fear of losing. Imagine them boasting about equalling are 18 titles and being one european cup behind us!
However with Rafa settling his contract this week and hopefully Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb to depart in the near future I honestly believe that 'times they are a-changin.' All we have to do is to believe.
Fergie will be 'laughin tonight' but he's about to be knocked off his perch!
COME ON RED MEN BELIEVE!

Mattyy · « **Reply #1351 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:54:27 pm »

Quote from: yorkykopite on March 20, 2009, 09:32:24 pm

OK, I'll re-phrase it. Which games has Lucas played alongside Alonso where you think he's been poor?

Everton in the FA cup that we lost 1-0 he was poor. Arsenal game 1-1 draw, and Portsmouth 1-0 win are the 3 games where Lucas has started alongside Alonso. Also Villa 0-0 he played with Alonso and Mash. He is not a bad player but is he good enough? Personally I don't think he is now and at 22 he should be showing more. He's solid but not exceptional. Given time he may have potential but can we afford to give him the amount of playing time it would take. Rafa appears to have a lot of faith in him so he must be showing on the training pitch. I have faith in Rafa's judgement so lets see how it goes. Alternativley he could be another Sissoko - worth moving on for a profit to get a better player in - but thats a whole new thread...

Gnurglan · « **Reply #1352 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:56:05 pm »

There's no doubt we have the quality to beat everyone, but I think we were a little unlucky in the draw. IMO Porto, Villareal and Arsenal are the three weakest teams left in the competition. They're not weak, but Bayern did Sporting 12-1, Chelsea were in the Final last year and Barca are winning the league in Spain. Arsenal beat Roma on pens, Porto beat Atletico on away goals and Villareal beat Panathinaikos. I hope for a miracle from Porto while we do out part.

Disintegration · « **Reply #1353 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:03:36 pm »

Disappointed with the draw - Man Utd got their usual blatant fix & whilst I think we have the quality to beat Chelsea, I cannot help but think it's unlikely given that we've already defeated them twice this season. I think a side of their quality have to be considered favourites for that reason as much as anything else...it's just one of those strange footballing quirks, ala our cup wins over Man Utd & Chelsea teams we'd lost badly to in the league in recent years.

If we do get through? I hope it's Barcelona. I think they're the sort of team we're built to dismantle.

redman1977 · « **Reply #1354 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:07:07 pm »

Quote from: redman1977 on December 11, 2008, 01:01:16 am

I know one thing...... if we all get through the last 8, it's about time the other 3 got pitted against one another

a 2 legged man u v chelsea would be nice

I fuckin knew it, bloody fix, Scum fans might as well start booking the hotels in Rome. Absolutely fucking fuming

jackfrancis · « **Reply #1355 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:11:18 pm »

The upshot: Riise won't be available for Chelsea.

Koplass · « **Reply #1356 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:16:48 pm »

You know if I was a Manc I'd be highly embarassed that my club hadn't already amassed about ten European Cups, they get the easy route every, single year. Is it too much to ask that we for once don't get drawn against either another English club or a top European side? It would be nice if the pressure were on someone else for once.

That said, Liverpool don't win things the easy way, leave that to Man Utd.

stevensr123 · « **Reply #1357 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:19:45 pm »

Nice little dig at Arsenal/Wenger

Benitez told his weekly press conference: "I think it's the more difficult route. United will be favourites. Porto and Villarreal are good teams but our sides are more difficult."

woof · « **Reply #1358 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:22:33 pm »

I'm happy with the draw, contrary to most of the sentiments here. Somehow, our team performs better against bigger clubs so be it Chelsea or Barca, just let them come. The only dark house is Chelsea because under Guus, they seem to have something extra, not to mention the return of Essien whom I admire.

My hope is for Arsenal and Mancs to get through and let Arsenal beat the Mancs and we beat Arsenal in the final

Beninger · « **Reply #1359 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:22:35 pm »

I'm sure if we'd have gotten a "lesser" team in porto, we'd be worried about not being the underdogs. Let's just remember that the press looks at chelsea, barca and the mancs as the front runners, but we know how those teams feel about playing us.

We'll turn it up, and it will spur us on in the league as well.