Topic: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition

[Learpholl]

Always liked Gullit and Desailly when they've been BBC pundits, don't know if they've ever been on MOTD mind you.

Tim Vickery is great as a BBC pundit but people would probably give out about him if he was on MOTD

[Lycan]

What's with the BBC giving so many women commentary positions? They sound shit in my opinion. That might sound like I'm being sexist by some, but I'm not. They just don't have the voices for it. Just like Johnathan Pearce and Steve McManaman don't.

[sinnermichael]

Danny Murphy winds me up no end. Talking shite about the Alli penalty on the radio now.

[iamnant]

What's with the BBC giving so many women commentary positions? They sound shit in my opinion. That might sound like I'm being sexist by some, but I'm not. They just don't have the voices for it. Just like Johnathan Pearce and Steve McManaman don't.

I don't think gender's got anything to do with it, it's about the person? If a commentator has a good voice for it, then it doesn't matter if they're a man or a woman, surely?

[Dr_Evil]

What's with the BBC giving so many women commentary positions? They sound shit in my opinion. That might sound like I'm being sexist by some, but I'm not. They just don't have the voices for it. Just like Johnathan Pearce and Steve McManaman don't.

It’s anchorMAN not anchorLADY...it’s scientific fact!

[Red-Dread]

It amazes me that Danny Murphy is still employed as a pundit - he's the worst I've ever seen

[El Lobo]

It’s anchorMAN not anchorLADY...it’s scientific fact!

I could just see one of them saying ‘60% of the time Kane scores every time’

[Learpholl]

What's with the BBC giving so many women commentary positions? They sound shit in my opinion. That might sound like I'm being sexist by some, but I'm not. They just don't have the voices for it. Just like Johnathan Pearce and Steve McManaman don't.

It's just that we're not used to it really. With MOTD and other shows we hear the same voices all the time. It would sound weird hearing Irish commentator George Hamilton on the BBC for example even though it's the same voice.

[Persephone]

Dion Dublin is atrocious, the man is incapable of an original thought. He literally regurgitates the Daily Mail type mentality. The twat honestly thinks that Joe "Dandruff-free" Hart, is world class. Oh and Rooney is still the kind of player you build a team around 🙄.

[sinnermichael]

I see and hear more of Jenas than my own friends and family these days. He's absolutely everywhere.

[redgriffin73]

I see and hear more of Jenas than my own friends and family these days. He's absolutely everywhere.

And talking drivel wherever he goes, the pinheaded twat.

[sinnermichael]

Ray Wilkins on SSN said that Sevilla would finish in the bottom six in the Premier League. 

[afc tukrish]

Ray Wilkins on SSN said that Sevilla would finish in the bottom six in the Premier League. 

Because they don't stay on their feet?

[Buck Pete]

And talking drivel wherever he goes, the pinheaded twat.

Poetic.

[Dazzer23]

only 3 votes for Jenas?....the fuck's going on?

If and when he can stop starting every sentence with the word "Look" I will say he actually talks a lot of sense.

Until then, he just makes we want to scream.

[Cu Chulainn]

After that weird, sycophantic fawning over Manchester United last night, Steve McManaman has to be up there. That was one of the most bizarre commentary performances I've ever witnessed. He was up in arms about every single foul a United player committed, accusing the Sevilla players of diving. He also said Sevilla carried no threat going forward - the team that had 25 shots, missed 4 golden opportunities, and wasted many more chances to create threatening situations -  and that United wouldn't be scared of them - whereas Sevilla will be petrified of the disjointed, cowardly rabble who created one chance of note and who they just dominated for 90 minutes. To top it off, he and the commentator then said 2+2=5 by claiming that United just showed how to control a European game away from home. Funny, because control to me means to restrict your opponent to few good chances and to create some yourself, not be absolutely dominated but saved by your goalkeeper and the opposition's shit finishing.

Truly mental.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

After that weird, sycophantic fawning over Manchester United last night, Steve McManaman has to be up there. That was one of the most bizarre commentary performances I've ever witnessed. He was up in arms about every single foul a United player committed, accusing the Sevilla players of diving. He also said Sevilla carried no threat going forward - the team that had 25 shots, missed 4 golden opportunities, and wasted many more chances to create threatening situations -  and that United wouldn't be scared of them - whereas Sevilla will be petrified of the disjointed, cowardly rabble who created one chance of note and who they just dominated for 90 minutes. To top it off, he and the commentator then said 2+2=5 by claiming that United just showed how to control a European game away from home. Funny, because control to me means to restrict your opponent to few good chances and to create some yourself, not be absolutely dominated but saved by your goalkeeper and the opposition's shit finishing.

Truly mental.

Yep, I only saw from about 60 onwards, but it was dreadful commentary to the extent that the manc at work even opened our conversation this morning by admitting so.

I've always found Darren Fletcher to be a good radio broadcaster but a pretty poor commentator in all honesty. As for McManaman, lovely footballer, dreadful co-commentator. If I had a pound for every time he shouts "Woaahhhhhhhh" during a match I'd be richer than him!

[redgriffin73]

I see and hear more of Jenas than my own friends and family these days. He's absolutely everywhere.

Just watching Would I Lie To You and he's bloody on that as well!

[afc tukrish]

Just watching Would I Lie To You and he's bloody on that as well!

Does he say something that wasn't true?

[Fiasco]

Yep, I only saw from about 60 onwards, but it was dreadful commentary to the extent that the manc at work even opened our conversation this morning by admitting so.

I've always found Darren Fletcher to be a good radio broadcaster but a pretty poor commentator in all honesty. As for McManaman, lovely footballer, dreadful co-commentator. If I had a pound for every time he shouts "Woaahhhhhhhh" during a match I'd be richer than him!

I fucking hate the way he puts emphasis on certain words. 'This game Fletch hasn't been very exciTING, it must be annoYING for our viewers who have tuned in hopING for a cracKING game of football.'


You're meant to be a Scouser, Macca. And I know he might be under instruction to slow down his speech considering the Scouse dialect can be fast and hard to understand but he takes the piss. As for Jermain Jenas? That ubiquitous nugget must be rolling in it, you can't escape him at the minute.

[redgriffin73]

Does he say something that wasn't true?

Would you be shocked if I said talking bollocks seems to be his forte?!

[BlackandWhitePaul]

I demand Alan Shearer is taken out of this poll, and the 12 whoppa's who voted for him can fuck off as well   

[Statto Red]

I demand Alan Shearer is taken out of this poll, and the 12 whoppa's who voted for him can fuck off as well   

No, he's a whopper, completely inconsistent views, one minute a challenge is a penalty/sending off, next same challenge isn't, & says the obvious, stealing a living.

[gerrardisgod]

Someone copy and paste Merson's quote on Klopp from the Top 6 manager "article" they've done.

[Clint Eastwood]

Someone copy and paste Merson's quote on Klopp from the Top 6 manager "article" they've done.

Rated Klopp 5th - "I like Klopp. He comes across as a really good guy. However, you look at his team and you take away from his front three and Virgil van Dijk and I don't know how many of those other players would get in another top-six-side. He's been there a few seasons now and the majority of his signings have been fairly average."

Completely contradictory. Surely having a worse squad, but being 3rd makes him better than the others. Poch 2nd

"Fairly average" signings: Salah, Mane, van Dijk, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Matip, Karius, Ox.

Fucking moron.

[rkgriffin]

At least most of you don’t live in the US. We are stuck with Fox Soccer for the FA Cup, UCL and the World Cup. They have to be the worse group of pundits/commentators on one network ever. Not a single one of them is worth a shit.

To make things worse they commentate the games from the US via a TV. They have no clue what is even going on in the game half the time. Sometimes it is 30 seconds later before they realize a penalty has been called. Then after all that we have to sit through listening to Alexi Lalas. How he still has a job is beyond me.

[idontknow]

ubiquitous nugget

That is beautiful, I'm throwing that into conversation. 

[redgriffin73]

Rated Klopp 5th - "I like Klopp. He comes across as a really good guy. However, you look at his team and you take away from his front three and Virgil van Dijk and I don't know how many of those other players would get in another top-six-side. He's been there a few seasons now and the majority of his signings have been fairly average."

Completely contradictory. Surely having a worse squad, but being 3rd makes him better than the others. Poch 2nd

"Fairly average" signings: Salah, Mane, van Dijk, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Matip, Karius, Ox.

Fucking moron.

I always love it when people say "take the best players out of the team and...er...the team won't be as good" - no shit Sherlock!

[iamnant]

Garth Crooks has put Claudio Bravo as his goalkeeper for his Team of the Week. If anyone else, like me, watched that match, let that sink in for a minute. The man is paid money for this. Astonishing.

Oh, and has put Roberston as a left winger.

And Lukaku rather than Firmino. Again, he's PAID for these opinions.

[bradders1011]

Watching Premier League Years on Sky because nothing better is on - 1992/93. I'm too young to remember this.

Steve Bruce scores that late winner against Wednesday that had Ferguson and Kidd on the pitch. Tyler screams "YEEEESSS! YEEESSSS!"

Was it not obvious even then? Man's a cretin.

[Crosby Nick]

Watching Premier League Years on Sky because nothing better is on - 1992/93. I'm too young to remember this.

Steve Bruce scores that late winner against Wednesday that had Ferguson and Kidd on the pitch. Tyler screams "YEEEESSS! YEEESSSS!"

Was it not obvious even then? Man's a cretin.

That was horrific (the goal, not aware of the commentary). Was playing Sensible Soccer at my mate’s when that went in, heard it in the radio. Think Rushy scored a screamer v Oldham the same day!

[Lycan]

Watching Premier League Years on Sky because nothing better is on - 1992/93. I'm too young to remember this.

Steve Bruce scores that late winner against Wednesday that had Ferguson and Kidd on the pitch. Tyler screams "YEEEESSS! YEEESSSS!"

Was it not obvious even then? Man's a cretin.

He used to get excited when we scored some big goals back in the 90's as well.

Honestly, all this Martin Tyler is a Utd fan stuff(he really isn't) is getting a bit boring now.

[bradders1011]

He used to get excited when we scored some big goals back in the 90's as well.

Honestly, all this Martin Tyler is a Utd fan stuff(he really isn't) is getting a bit boring now.

He's also still trying to make "...AND IT'S LIIIIIVE!" a catchphrase.

[Crosby Nick]

He's also still trying to make "...AND IT'S LIIIIIVE!" a catchphrase.

I think he’s just confirming that the Frankenstein’s monster on co commentary is still operational.

[Yevgeny]

Rated Klopp 5th - "I like Klopp. He comes across as a really good guy. However, you look at his team and you take away from his front three and Virgil van Dijk and I don't know how many of those other players would get in another top-six-side. He's been there a few seasons now and the majority of his signings have been fairly average."

Completely contradictory. Surely having a worse squad, but being 3rd makes him better than the others. Poch 2nd

"Fairly average" signings: Salah, Mane, van Dijk, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Matip, Karius, Ox.

Fucking moron.

He hates Liverpool with a passion. I don't recall him ever saying anything positive about us.

[Crosby Nick]

He hates Liverpool with a passion. I don't recall him ever saying anything positive about us.

Ever? Thankfully there’s no archives so won’t ever be able to dispute this!

[Solomon Grundy]

He hates Liverpool with a passion. I don't recall him ever saying anything positive about us.

I've heard Merson say loads of positive stuff about us down the years. He Liked Rafa's 08/09 side. He liked Brendan's 13/14 side and he's said plenty of positive stuff about this current Liverpool side on Soccer Saturday as well.

[Skeeve]

I was unfortunate enough to have to listen to our match on talkshite today, bloody hell Joey Barton is utterly abysmal, one of the worst bantz-style pundits I have ever heard attempting to do co-commentary, coming out with shite like we would be having another open top bus tour for going back ahead of united as if any fans gave a shite about it last week unless they were mocking a rival fan.

[Learpholl]

Not sure if there's anywhere else to mention this but Premier League Tonight on BT usually throws up one or two really good debates or conversations each week. Players talk candidly and give insights into the game.

Jenas talking about his career now and what could have been. Said that being in the England squad brought his levels up but when he went back to Newcastle he'd eventually revert to the mean because standards weren't as high there in training every day.

They also discussed the 'new manager bounce'. Initially dismissed it because all players should try their hardest but then went on to talk about how the atmosphere around a club, disgruntled fans, can affect a player. They might take the easy option instead of the more difficult pass in fear of being abused.

Very interesting.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Jenas talking...Very interesting.