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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1800 on: May 17, 2013, 10:45:19 am »
No, as here's a shot showing the 'monstrous thing' taken back in '52 from here



From this picture, I'm beginning to wonder if it was perhaps the actual Coal Gas generation part of the gasworks although from memory, it looks nothing like the old Linacre Gasworks that I remember from back then which was all exposed pipes and strange retorts and belching chimneys and very strong sulpur smells. I suppose like that place,  if this is the Garston works, it would have all been swept away in the early 70's once North Sea Gas came on stream leaving only the Gasometers remaining on the site.

Not really part of this thread, but here's an interesting use for an old Coalgas works in the US... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_Works_Park.

Can't see anything like that ever happening here with our often overzealous concerns with H&S.

Got me really snookered now then Gulley!

Cracking picture that - just really weird that nobody I've spoken to from that area has any recollection of it. Mind you, as I'm beginning to realise myself all too often these days, age really does play tricks on the memory!

I'm with you about it not looking like a gasworks too, and there are pics of the old Garston gasworks on Google that still dont look like that picture to me [the Luftwaffe dropped a suspected delayed action incendiary mine on it during the war, and there's various stories online about those brave [mad??] bomb disposal lads, and how they dealt with it all.

Anyhow, as I said earlier, I'll keep researching - totally intrigued now!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1801 on: May 17, 2013, 11:10:13 am »


it looks nothing like the old Linacre Gasworks that I remember from back then which was all exposed pipes and strange retorts and belching chimneys and very strong sulpur smells.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1802 on: May 17, 2013, 11:13:23 am »

Keith, not sure if you've done it but that old '52 St Mary's Road could possibly make a good then and now.



That guy on his bike cycling away...

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1803 on: May 17, 2013, 11:20:33 am »
.....seemed the most wonderous place imaginable.

It was, and that smell when Linacre was in operation was instantly recognisable.

I can't find any of it back in its heyday, there's a few shots of the railway sidings and such, but the view of the works from New Strand was particularly good as I recall.

Here's a video someone managed to take of the demolition....

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/zP7eaQxUcZM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/zP7eaQxUcZM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1804 on: May 17, 2013, 11:28:37 am »

I think a major problem is that film shot seemed to have been taken with a particularly powerful telephoto lens from really way back along St Mary's Road, and the resulting compression of the depth of field is considerable resulting in a weird perspective.

It leads to the appearance of that works being gigantic and hovering behind the Bank when it's not really, the human eye just wouldn't see it that way at all, that '52 photo is probably much more representative of the scene and perhaps that's why many people don't seem to remember it being there.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1805 on: May 17, 2013, 01:28:24 pm »
Still one of my favourite sites around.

http://www.liverpoolpicturebook.com/


As I'm linked to them on Face ache, I tend to get to see quite a number of photo's I've not seen before.

Here's a handful from recent weeks that I liked for different reasons.  All a bit random, and in no particular order.



St. Johns church in it's grounds.  Otherwise known today as St.Johns gardens, just behind St.George's hall.

I think the church was demolished circa 1899.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1806 on: May 17, 2013, 01:31:21 pm »
Two from Lime Street, spanning about 20 years.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1807 on: May 17, 2013, 01:36:39 pm »
Princess dock. Probably taken from the Royal Liver Buildings.

Note New Brighton tower in the distance, which stood taller than Blackpool tower.  It was demolished in 1921, so puts this photo in the 1908(1911) - 1921 bracket.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1808 on: May 17, 2013, 01:40:20 pm »
Here you go Mel.

The Royal Court Theatre, and Roe Street.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1809 on: May 17, 2013, 01:41:41 pm »
Hatton Garden in what looks like the 1950s.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1810 on: May 17, 2013, 01:44:08 pm »
Mersey Tunnel. 1934.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1811 on: May 17, 2013, 02:55:15 pm »
I think a major problem is that film shot seemed to have been taken with a particularly powerful telephoto lens from really way back along St Mary's Road, and the resulting compression of the depth of field is considerable resulting in a weird perspective.

It leads to the appearance of that works being gigantic and hovering behind the Bank when it's not really, the human eye just wouldn't see it that way at all, that '52 photo is probably much more representative of the scene and perhaps that's why many people don't seem to remember it being there.

This one's from 1920 and may give a more honest view. Thanks to Friendsreunited


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1812 on: May 17, 2013, 07:45:47 pm »
Princess dock. Probably taken from the Royal Liver Buildings.

Note New Brighton tower in the distance, which stood taller than Blackpool tower.  It was demolished in 1921, so puts this photo in the 1908(1911) - 1921 bracket.
By the looks of it the Tower still has its top on, so it's going to be a year earlier than 1921 if you want a narrower estimate :)  Here it is in 1920.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1813 on: May 17, 2013, 11:21:12 pm »
Keith, not sure if you've done it but that old '52 St Mary's Road could possibly make a good then and now.



That guy on his bike cycling away...

streetview screenshot attached below

Yep, had a go at that one a couple o weeks ago The Gulley!

St Mary's Road, Garston, 1952 and 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

Loving all the old shots and suggestions though fellas. Got a massive stack to choose from now but always looking for more. Cheers!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1814 on: May 18, 2013, 02:42:20 pm »

From this picture, I'm beginning to wonder if it was perhaps the actual Coal Gas generation part of the gasworks although from memory,
My mate who lives in Garston said thats what it was gulley.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1815 on: May 18, 2013, 04:31:38 pm »
My mate who lives in Garston said thats what it was gulley.

Cheers John.

Putting the screenshot from the video against the pics Tsar and myself put up dramatically shows the difference the lens and the angle of the camera has made to the appearance of that building....



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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1816 on: May 19, 2013, 03:13:20 pm »
Courtesy of Fat Scouser ....

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Some good clips of the docks and a few street scenes c1950
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1817 on: May 19, 2013, 07:43:58 pm »
My favourite place as a kid, used to love going past on the 61 bus, seemed the most wonderous place imaginable. Don't suppose there are any pics of this?

If I wanted to see my grandparents I had to get 12 to West Derby Village and the 61 to the Crown pub at the start of the East Lancs, when I went to school, Old swan Tech, I got the 74 to the triangle and the 61 to Old Swan. When I started work, an apprentice fitter at Davies, Pritchard and Richmond at the Airport we had one of the Hangers at the back. If I remember properly I got the 61 from the Triangle leyfield road to Evans medical, Speke and then the 80, I think, to the Airport entrance. So the 61 played a large part in my life, remember those journeys were repeated in the afternoon.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1818 on: May 21, 2013, 07:29:40 pm »
Keith put some superb photos of Anfield on Facebook today: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolThenAndNow 

I particularly like the one of Venice Street, though somehow it makes me sad too.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1819 on: May 22, 2013, 12:06:11 am »
Keith put some superb photos of Anfield on Facebook today: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolThenAndNow 

I particularly like the one of Venice Street, though somehow it makes me sad too.

Cheers Mr Beef, yep had a bit of a mare with Flickr tonight but was going to come on and post a link tonight

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Tonight, chucked in 18 Then and Nows from around Anfield on match day, too if anyone's interested

Here are a couple from the docks and a couple from the ground


Dock Road, 1956 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr




Gladstone Lock, 1959 and 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


Back Rockfield Road, Anfield, 1977 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


Boys' Pen Entrance, Anfield, 1970s in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


Walton Breck Road, Anfield, early 1990s in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1820 on: May 22, 2013, 10:21:48 am »
This thread remains superbly informative, interesting and one of my favourite reads on RAWK. Keep it up Keith/Gulley/Richie/Tzar and everyone. Looking forward to flick(r)ing through the new then and nows at work later...
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1821 on: May 23, 2013, 09:40:37 pm »
Great pics Mel Wood, I can see Fat Scouser queuing to get in the Boys Pen in his Sunday best, scrubbed up proper before he's allowed to go the match.

That one of the early 1900's, they must be the late arriver's.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1823 on: May 29, 2013, 10:46:42 am »
Prince Rupert couldn't have bin much of a big lad then - his tower's only about 8 foot high .  .  . ::) ::)
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1824 on: June 1, 2013, 12:34:50 am »
About ten million new ones added since I last posted. Been messing atound with different ways of mixing them up, like.


Sefton Park Lake, Sefton Park, 1910s in 2013 blended by Keithjones84, on Flickr


28 Ullet Road, Aigburth, 1920s in 2013 blended by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1825 on: June 1, 2013, 01:03:47 am »
I absolutely love that Sefton Park Lake pic Mel. I didn't know there was a boat hut there at any time, there's no old foundations there at all so it must have been demolished and worked over before the '70's. There was one on that side closer to the wide part and also on the opposite side, but not there.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1826 on: June 1, 2013, 07:55:34 am »
Winter pics
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1827 on: June 1, 2013, 08:30:58 am »
and in 1872...and in 1936


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1828 on: June 1, 2013, 01:24:46 pm »

Mate they are excellent, I love the 1872 pic. Do you reckon its taken from the opposite end to the 1936 pic? 

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« Reply #1829 on: June 1, 2013, 02:08:55 pm »
Pretty sure it is John, the long island in the foreground could be where the bandstand is now.

Some aerial views of Sevvy here,


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1830 on: June 2, 2013, 08:40:31 am »
Cheers, thats a great site.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1831 on: June 4, 2013, 02:35:42 pm »
Hoping somebody can tell me where this a view of. All I know is that it's from early 1942.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1832 on: June 4, 2013, 04:49:28 pm »
This isn't much help, my memory on that area is vague, possibly taken from the modern building to the left on this pic

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1833 on: June 4, 2013, 04:59:10 pm »
Hoping somebody can tell me where this a view of. All I know is that it's from early 1942.



It's a cropped version of this (click for larger version here) from Life magazine


I'm not totally sure, my bearings may be skewed, but it looks like it's possibly taken from a high position perhaps somewhere along Upper Parliament Street looking down to the river with the Anglican Cathedral to the right. I think I can just make out what looks like the cranes at the docks in the distance.
That warehouse bottom right is marked J Lyons & Co Richie might be able to pinpoint it more precisely.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1834 on: June 4, 2013, 07:20:44 pm »
Thanks you two. Better guesses than mine (don't ask, I'm not telling).

I'll have a look at the 1938 Kelly's re J. Lyons
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1835 on: June 4, 2013, 07:37:22 pm »
Had a look in that directory T K, didn't see them under warehouses

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« Reply #1836 on: June 4, 2013, 08:00:17 pm »
Cheers L. Were they mentioned in the names section?
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« Reply #1837 on: June 4, 2013, 08:17:11 pm »
Cheers L. Were they mentioned in the names section?
No, would have to go through trades A-Z, that would be a pain.

Duke Street/Upper Duke Street would be my guess
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1838 on: June 4, 2013, 09:22:51 pm »
A bit further up than this

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1839 on: June 4, 2013, 11:27:18 pm »

I spotted the spikey tops to the towers but I'm having a real problem identifying the angle we are looking at the Cathedral from as they are at the south end of the Cathedral.
To my eyes, in that picture the Cathedral seems angled away from us to the right and it's as if we could be viewing it more from Duke St direction, but, and it's a major but, I then have a problem resolving that bend in the road with any that are around today as I can't see any that match at all yet the sunlight seems to match this perspective, it looks like it could be coming from the west ie we are looking vaguely south east and in the evening. But I really don't know. I think I might need new glasses.



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