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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1680 on: February 23, 2013, 09:50:14 am »
There's some great pics on FB, one or two from L17 that I'd never seen before. The old Hydes sweetshop on the corner of Elmswood and old Aigburth Rd.





http://www.facebook.com/OldPhotographsofLiverpool?sk=photos

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1681 on: February 23, 2013, 08:10:25 pm »
Cheers John C. That page on Facebook is absolutely tremendous, that.

I'd actually done something with that second one before a few months ago (though it's a bit out of alignment, now I look at it again!), but if it's still there, might look for the first one next time I'm down that way!


Corner of Aigburth Vale and Aigburth Road 1927 and 2012 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1682 on: February 23, 2013, 11:23:21 pm »
There's some great pics on FB, one or two from L17 that I'd never seen before. The old Hydes sweetshop on the corner of Elmswood and old Aigburth Rd.





http://www.facebook.com/OldPhotographsofLiverpool?sk=photos

Brilliant that, some great photos there.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1683 on: February 24, 2013, 12:56:06 am »



Re the top pic ......


I reckon this was taken late 50's rather than early 60's, what people won't realise is the height of activity that little corner will have seen just in the 70's alone.

Hydes sweet shop was a genuine corner shop with the proprietors being an ancient English couple. I say ancient because when you're a young lad everyone is ancient. It was a shorter walk than to Aigburth Vale but it was stacked with sweets to the fucking brim.

Mrs Hyde, the fucking cow, once told me mum I'd bought two boxes of matches in the same day. It wasn't my fault my older mate next door was a pyromaniac even at age 13.

I actually think Mr Hyde's younger brother is still alive to this day - he must be as old as the pyramids. I could be wrong though.

A few yards down was Ted Leather's cobblers shop, an old style skilled cobbler who fixed, sowed, repaired and shined shoes in front of your very eyes on machines and contraptions that probably don't even exist now.



There was a little garage and then there was a tiny little Bookies where all the locals would gather.

Slightly beyond that was a 'hang out' place were Mark D**lan would hang out of his bedroom window shouting at people while his mum traded more than shoes in some peoples opinion.

A few yards further is the 1st Allerton Scout Headquarters. A tiny front doorway would open to a vast space beyond were scores of kids would gather weekly. I loved following the band up Elmswood Road as it paraded on Mossley Hill church during special occasions.

Then, believe it or not, in that photo is a Tizer distribution depot. I don't think it was made there but it was certainly stocked and stolen from there. The gates seemed 14 foot high when you were 4 foot tall, but that fizzy stuff required risks and initiative and I could actually here it calling my name as I scaled the perimeter walls. Occasionally the gates were inadvertently left open which meant the local lads would ly on the grass on nearby Sefton Park burping Tizer for days.

Opposite the Tizer factory was Aigburth Vale Girls school (on the right but not really in site). Those girls popped the cork of many of the lads more than any bottle of Tizer could.





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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1684 on: February 24, 2013, 01:13:44 am »
Don't recall this one being up before, would be interested to see the 2 posters

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1685 on: February 24, 2013, 09:02:36 am »
Cracking pair of posts, them last 2.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1686 on: February 25, 2013, 09:54:53 pm »
25 new ones from the weekend from mainly Walton but also Fazakerley, Anfield, Orrell Park, Kenny, Fairfield and Allerton if anyone's interested...?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithjones84/sets/72157632063149974/

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Hawkins Street, Kensington, 1900 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1687 on: February 27, 2013, 09:51:21 pm »
18 new ones from vaguely the university bit of town up tonight

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithjones84/sets/72157632063149974/

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Duke Street, 1939 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1688 on: February 28, 2013, 10:30:37 pm »
14 new ones from all over the show tonight, along these lines if anyone wants a gander...?


Cases Street, 1950s in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


Pier Head Trams, 1950s in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1689 on: March 4, 2013, 12:32:19 pm »
I hope people don't mind me keeping adding my links, but 35 new ones from around Walton, Anfield, Kirkdale and Everton just added here...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithjones84/sets/72157632063149974/

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Walton Road, Walton, 1919 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1690 on: March 4, 2013, 12:34:50 pm »
Haven't you ran out of old bloody photo's yet.  ::)




























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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1691 on: March 4, 2013, 09:04:50 pm »
Might do soon Richie!

Here's another, a bit too close for comfort to the hellhole.


Oxton Street, Walton, 1960s in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1692 on: March 5, 2013, 01:52:38 pm »
Covering the railway tracks. Brownlow Hill.

The Augustus John now stands where the building on the right is.

It would also explain why there's a bit of a piazza that runs in front of the Augustus John, etc, as they would not want to build structures of any great weight on top of the concrete capping slabs, without any foundations.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1693 on: March 5, 2013, 06:31:41 pm »
Another one of Brownlow Hill not sure of date

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1694 on: March 5, 2013, 06:43:27 pm »
Another one of Brownlow Hill not sure of date

Must be sometime in the 20's as I think the clearance of the infirmary site for the building of the Met Cathedral started about 1930.

You can just make out the Lime St-Edge Hill cutting, the one from Richies post, up at the top left.

Anyone any idea how old Mountford Hall is?
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1695 on: March 5, 2013, 08:11:35 pm »
    Anyone any idea how old Mountford Hall is?

Funny enough Gulley, going by the style of architecture, I was going to say early Art Deco, so somewhere between about 1905 - 1915,   and a bit of research would back up that guess.

Although I usually think of the whole building as Mountford Hall, and not, as the wiki says, four differet buildings.

So I guess the front red brick/limestone ediface is technically Gilmour Hall, not Mountford.



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The building was built in three stages, evident from the difference in architecture. The original building, housing the Gilmour Hall (originally the debating chamber) was built in 1911. The middle section was built in the 1930s and the largest part, housing the Mountford Hall and the Courtyard was opened in 1966. Originally the Courtyard was open to the elements, before being covered in the 1990s.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1696 on: March 9, 2013, 06:08:37 pm »
Holmfield Rd, off Booker Ave, 1955. Where the new Tesco Express is.


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1697 on: March 14, 2013, 01:34:28 pm »
Canning dock. No date on it, but I reckon there should be some sign of the Liver from that angle.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1698 on: March 14, 2013, 01:49:34 pm »
Isaac Street and Mill Street corner,


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1699 on: March 14, 2013, 04:59:36 pm »
Canning dock. No date on it, but I reckon there should be some sign of the Liver from that angle.


The port of Liverpool Building was completed in 1907, the Liverbuildings 1911.  The tunnel - Georges Dock ventilation shaft/building 1931-34. - Either not built at the time of this photo, or just out of shot.

I'd put this photo somewhere between 1907 - 1931.

Studying a few more photo's of Nova Scotia, I'm sure you'd pin it down to within a couple of years.

Look at this picture below - 1920 -  with no Tunnel ventilation shaft (built 1931/4), but after 1916(cunard building built)

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1700 on: March 14, 2013, 05:11:43 pm »
Canning dock. No date on it, but I reckon there should be some sign of the Liver from that angle.



Might be obscured by fog, apologies for lowering the standards of the place by putting a postcard up. Great pic of the shop on Mill Street, those carts must have been a pain for the kids to push.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1701 on: March 14, 2013, 05:40:25 pm »
If I go back to the same photo I've just posted, which is dated to 1920, look in the botton corner, where the three storey dock warehouses on Mann Island/Nova Scotia, built in the 1800s look like they've been demolished.

That would place your pic in the 1907 (allowing for the Liverbuildings shrouded in fog, or out of shot because of the angle of photgrapher) and 1920.

So 1907-1920.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1702 on: March 14, 2013, 05:54:35 pm »
Nova Scotia/Mann Island. - No date.  but certainly post 1907, as the Port of Liverpool Building is in the background)

And another image I nicked off ebay, with a captured U-boat in Canning Dock. (presumably WW1 ) From an almost identical position as L12's postcard, above.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1703 on: March 14, 2013, 06:03:34 pm »
I always wondered what happened to those little 'mini' towers that were atop the four domes of the Port of Liverpool building.  Presumably they were taken off and just the tops put back on as caps.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1704 on: March 14, 2013, 08:34:44 pm »
I always wondered what happened to those little 'mini' towers that were atop the four domes of the Port of Liverpool building.  Presumably they were taken off and just the tops put back on as caps.

I think the mini towers went at the same time the 5th floor was removed due to bmob damage

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1705 on: March 15, 2013, 01:22:16 am »
30 more Then and Nows added this week, from around Kensington, Tuebrook, Old Swan, Bootle and town.

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Old Haymarket, 1960s in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1706 on: March 15, 2013, 08:36:45 am »
That used to be the 'Dicky Sam' inn next door to the sailmakers in that Nova Scotia shot.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1707 on: March 15, 2013, 11:49:18 am »
FAO  Mel Wood [primarily]

As stated previously, I've really been enjoying your input on this thread, and for the life of me...I cannot remember whether or not I've added a series of "then and now" shots I myself composed a few years back now.

Anyway, I'm going to re-post them anyway.

Interestingly, I too dabbled with doing a merge or an "overlay" using photos of the same scene taken in different times.

I've included these at the end, and added some comments regarding the inspirational "muse."

[below] St John's Road, Waterloo




[below] Seaforth Road




[below] Seaforth Road...opposite view




[below] Bridge Road, Litherland



[below] Crosby Road North, Waterloo



[below] Lift Bridge & Red Lion Pub, Litherland



[below] Sandy Road, Seaforth




Ok...so here's where I began to mess about with some overlays and merges using the above pictures as material.

[below] Step 1 " Just seeing if the merge was going to be accurate enough for a placement..."



[below] Step 2 " Satisfied with this, I placed the lamp, the fountain and the young boys around it..."



[below] Step 3 " To create atmosphere, I lit the lamp, and tweaked the sky a bit..."



[below] Step 4 " Probably a bit overindulgent, but I thought an other-worldly quantum mist would add some value, but I suppose that's up for debate..."



ANYWAY....

A thoroughly enjoyable and somewhat "spooky" exercise in juxtaposition, merging that which once was...with that which now is.

The moral of the exercise [for me]

Rock, stone, steel and concrete weathers time far more ably than flesh and blood does.

But if you search carefully, you can see and hear the "echoes" of bygone times!!


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1708 on: March 15, 2013, 01:37:19 pm »
That used to be the 'Dicky Sam' inn next door to the sailmakers in that Nova Scotia shot.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1709 on: March 15, 2013, 04:53:37 pm »
Haha, you cheeky booger   ;D



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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1710 on: March 16, 2013, 12:51:52 am »
FAO  Mel Wood [primarily]

As stated previously, I've really been enjoying your input on this thread, and for the life of me...I cannot remember whether or not I've added a series of "then and now" shots I myself composed a few years back now.

Anyway, I'm going to re-post them anyway.

Interestingly, I too dabbled with doing a merge or an "overlay" using photos of the same scene taken in different times.

I've included these at the end, and added some comments regarding the inspirational "muse."

[below] St John's Road, Waterloo




[below] Seaforth Road




[below] Seaforth Road...opposite view




[below] Bridge Road, Litherland



[below] Crosby Road North, Waterloo



[below] Lift Bridge & Red Lion Pub, Litherland



[below] Sandy Road, Seaforth




Ok...so here's where I began to mess about with some overlays and merges using the above pictures as material.

[below] Step 1 " Just seeing if the merge was going to be accurate enough for a placement..."



[below] Step 2 " Satisfied with this, I placed the lamp, the fountain and the young boys around it..."



[below] Step 3 " To create atmosphere, I lit the lamp, and tweaked the sky a bit..."



[below] Step 4 " Probably a bit overindulgent, but I thought an other-worldly quantum mist would add some value, but I suppose that's up for debate..."



ANYWAY....

A thoroughly enjoyable and somewhat "spooky" exercise in juxtaposition, merging that which once was...with that which now is.

The moral of the exercise [for me]

Rock, stone, steel and concrete weathers time far more ably than flesh and blood does.

But if you search carefully, you can see and hear the "echoes" of bygone times!!


 ;)

They're brilliant, them Calm Down x 3. Really enjoyed seeing them and you've done an ace job in lining everything up/ getting spot-on locations

In the Crosby Road North, 1905 one, do you know what the building in front of the pub was? I can't mak it out. Would it be a small shop perhaps?

Great work!

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1711 on: March 16, 2013, 01:11:55 am »
It's a tram stop/shelter surely.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1712 on: March 16, 2013, 10:30:43 pm »
It's a tram stop/shelter surely.

Yep...it sure is!!

And in another photo..[not featured in that set]....there's also a blacksmith's shop just a little further up where the cinema on Crosby Road now stands.

Ideally placed at the time.... in what....even back then..... was a pretty busy suburban thoroughfare.

Thanks for the kind feedback Mel Wood, and please keep posting your updates!!


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1713 on: March 17, 2013, 02:09:11 pm »
Looks like there's been an incident at the Old Fort.



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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1714 on: March 17, 2013, 02:30:00 pm »

Looks like maybe a driver forgot to get out of his car before he tried to get into the bar.

Those prefabs on the left, I can just about remember them there though I may be getting confused with others elsewhere. The No 12 used to go down Prescot at that spot then London Rd and then turn onto Lime Street.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1715 on: March 21, 2013, 06:55:07 pm »
Ah righto. Tram shelter, not a small shop then!  :-[

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Town Hall, 1942 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


Sandon Street, Toxteth, 1960 in 2013 by Keithjones84, on Flickr


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1716 on: March 22, 2013, 12:03:39 am »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #1717 on: March 24, 2013, 01:18:50 pm »
For us wools who frequent this topic, or those just with an interest with us over the water, here's a great site for all things Wallasey & New Brighton:

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
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« Reply #1719 on: March 26, 2013, 04:22:57 pm »
Mundane maybe, but I like it...


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