Topic: Liverpool stadium plan to be approved next week

[jooneyisdagod]

 Apr 25 2008
Latest artist's impression of Liverpool's new stadium on Stanley Park

LIVERPOOL FC’s third stadium plan is set to get the go-ahead next week.

City planners have recommended the £350m proposal for a 60,000-seater ground is approved by councillors..

However, progress on the stadium is likely to remain in doubt as long as the ownership stand-off continues.

Liverpool’s original building plan for Stanley Park was backed by the council as far back as 2004.

American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett ordered a massive redesign when they took over the club last year and their plan was approved last summer.

But it was shelved and redrawn a second time by Dallas-based architects HKS earlier this year when the tycoons decided it was too expensive.

Next month, councillors will have their say on a scheme showing a number of crucial changes, including:

The future capacity of New Anfield, after any expansion, has been reduced from 76,000 to 73,000.

The underground car park beneath the stadium has been halved in size.

A three-storey car park will be located under tennis courts and a games area in Stanley Park, shielded from Priory Road by a “green wall”.

The width, length and height of the stadium has been reduced by several metres.

The roof opening is smaller and designed differently to keep the crowd dry and help the pitch grow.

Plans for public viewing areas, a “skywalk” and roof terrace restaurant in the new Kop stand have been scrapped.

The redesign does not affect the restoration of the remainder of Stanley Park, which is underway and expected to finish in December.

A council report says: “The overall form of the stadium, with the Kop as the main generator of the building form will add to the city skyline, and create a positive landmark and a focus for further investment.

“The changes introduced in March do little to dilute the architectural quality of the proposed stadium.”

Planners said the scheme should be agreed if Liverpool agreed to meet certain conditions.

The club must make sure spectators leaving their cars in the stadium’s 970 parking spaces arrive an hour before kick-off and wait an hour after the final whistle to leave.

It must also pay for a yearly review of the residents-only parking zone around Anfield for five years after the ground opens – and fund any expansion of it.

Several community groups have objected to the plan, including Priory Area Residents Association (Para), Friends of Stanley Park and Stanley Park Preservation Society.

The council’s planning committee meets on May 6.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2008/04/25/liverpool-stadium-plan-to-be-approved-next-week-64375-20821108/



What's this now ?  Another revised plan ?  And more importantly is this even going to be built given the feuds in our Boardroom and the clear untenablity in that situation.  Add to that the burgeoning debts we will accrue if Hicks does manage to take a loan to build the stadium.  Or do you think this might just be another ploy to divert attention from the Boardroom struggles ?

[Hightown Phil]

If only we had any money.

[carra__gold]

Here we go again

[Brian Blessed]

Dic will buy out Gillette, come up with their half of the money, Hicks won;t be able to and be forced out. Then DIC will either fuck us around a bit more, with "plans for an even better, grander more fabulous stadium" or build the stadium in the latest plans.

EDIT: What's interesting in that picture is that in the original artists impression, those two ladies in the foreground were 5 years old.

[rushnaldo]

Several community groups have objected to the plan, including Priory Area Residents Association (Para), Friends of Stanley Park and Stanley Park Preservation Society??

Did these groups object before?

[revertssd]

I don't think it's a new one, it's just the approval for the redesign after they decided to scrap their initial plans.  I think that even though there is a power struggle and a huge division between H&G, they're capable of agreeing to sign off on something like the stadium.  The money might be a problem, however....

[Onward Liverpudlian]

Plans for public viewing areas, a “skywalk” and roof terrace restaurant in the new Kop stand have been scrapped.

Not THE most crucial aspects of the new ground I admit but was the loss of these really neccesary? Wouldnt have thought it would have shaved off zillions of the cost, so we wont have a nice area now to view the three graces, cathedrals and view over the river to the welsh mountains now....tut tut.

[Fat Scouser]

Fuck me. How much is it going to cost to draw this lot up, go through all the fucking razzmatazz again and then scrap them.
Just fuck off.

[Paul 14]

According to most know alls DIC will be soon owning the club, so why are we going through with this monstrosity?

[eeayeaddio]

Do we even want this stadium now or is it a case of 'we're just sick of the whole stadim affair and we want to get it over with' or 'we have to press on to meet deadlines'?

[rossipersempre]

Next month, councillors will have their say on a scheme showing a number of crucial changes, including:

The future capacity of New Anfield, after any expansion, has been reduced from 76,000 to 73,000.

The underground car park beneath the stadium has been halved in size.

A three-storey car park will be located under tennis courts and a games area in Stanley Park, shielded from Priory Road by a “green wall”.

The width, length and height of the stadium has been reduced by several metres.

The roof opening is smaller and designed differently to keep the crowd dry and help the pitch grow.

Plans for public viewing areas, a “skywalk” and roof terrace restaurant in the new Kop stand have been scrapped.


Talk about cutting back to the bare bones

Even that latest rendering looks like it's some campus building, not the mighty Anfield II

Supoose this is what you get with the Tumour in charge, all mouth and no action, what was it he called it only the other week, "giving us the best stadium in the world"? Yeah right, you inbred walrus.

[Sweet Silver Song]

According to most know alls DIC will be soon owning the club, so why are we going through with this monstrosity?

Because the planning application was submitted back in the late autumn before it kicked off between Hicks and Gillette. It doesn't do them any favours to pull the application. All that would do is that they lose the planing application fee and get no decision. At least if they keep the application running, they'll get a decision if nothing else.

[Shanks1965]

It'll never be built with the yanks in charge. Just throwing us a few more carrots to keep us sweet.

[qeti]

think it wont be as good as anfield...
anfield is my dream...
its not just stadium :S:S:S

[babeltime]

yawn...

[rosscolfc]

my yonng lad will have his season ticket by the time we see new anfield and he's 18 months old and just been put on the waiting list

[Regi]

It'll never be built IMO.
Gillett would have to approve it and he doesn't look like doing so.
Also, Hicks would need to have the second loan in place...even more unlikely.
A massive white elephant befitting the jungle outlaw himself

[Need_a_bevvy]

Next month, councillors will have their say on a scheme showing a number of crucial changes, including:

The future capacity of New Anfield, after any expansion, has been reduced from 76,000 to 73,000.

The underground car park beneath the stadium has been halved in size.

A three-storey car park will be located under tennis courts and a games area in Stanley Park, shielded from Priory Road by a “green wall”.

The width, length and height of the stadium has been reduced by several metres.

The roof opening is smaller and designed differently to keep the crowd dry and help the pitch grow.

Plans for public viewing areas, a “skywalk” and roof terrace restaurant in the new Kop stand have been scrapped.


Talk about cutting back to the bare bones

Even that latest rendering looks like it's some campus building, not the mighty Anfield II

Supoose this is what you get with the Tumour in charge, all mouth and no action, what was it he called it only the other week, "giving us the best stadium in the world"? Yeah right, you inbred walrus.

To be honest, I don't think that the revised design differ in any significant way from the original.  In some ways it IMHO looks slightly better. Larger glass squares for one if I recall correctly.  A bit uncertain about some of the metal works.

Anyhow, a 73 thousand capacity would be mighty fine, but for how long are we supposed to play in this stadium?  I think it might be a major mistake if the stadium is not expandable. 

Then again, it might all be moot in a few weeks.   Have D.I.C. given any info on their plans for the stadium in their recent  PR efforts?

[dis_1]

For me the most depressing part is the thought of all of those millions of dollars being paid to Hicks & Gilletts cronies at DALLAS based HKS. No wonder it's been designed, redesigned, scaled down etc.

Breaking News....
Hicks orders plans to be redrawn again as there is no walrus pool filled with the heated brine from hot dogs for him to wallow in.

[fernando torres]

here we go again 

[Football CRAZY]

What the feck are some of you guys on about? Do people actually read what's being said? The article makes it perfecly clear it is about the forthcoming approval of the same redesigned HKS one from January. It's not another redesign. The one from January is the scaled down, smaller capacity, half-carpark design.

This one: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N158580080125-1030.htm

[dis_1]

What the feck are some of you guys on about? Do people actually read what's being said? The article makes it perfecly clear it is about the forthcoming approval of the same redesigned HKS one from January. It's not another redesign. The one from January is the scaled down, smaller capacity, half-carpark design.

This one: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N158580080125-1030.htm

Yeah I realise that, the same way as I realise that Gerry Hicks is a Senior Vice President of HKS.
Any relation I wonder?

[Need_a_bevvy]

What the feck are some of you guys on about? Do people actually read what's being said? The article makes it perfecly clear it is about the forthcoming approval of the same redesigned HKS one from January. It's not another redesign. The one from January is the scaled down, smaller capacity, half-carpark design.

This one: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N158580080125-1030.htm

Who implied otherwise?

[Football CRAZY]

Who implied otherwise?

all the people who said here we go again, how much will this cost to get drawn up again etc 

[Need_a_bevvy]

I think you are being too harsh.  I think most people realised that. Just frustrated that yet another design is now being approved.

Anyhow, so I though. I think well of my fellow reds 

Cheers!

[Football CRAZY]

I think you are being too harsh.  I think most people realised that. Just frustrated that yet another design is now being approved.

Anyhow, so I though. I think well of my fellow reds 

Cheers!

Would people be happier if it was disapproved
I think the article is good news, can't see why anyone would get angry reading it unless they thought it meant yet another new design was being drawn up, which several people seemed to think. Can't wait for my seasie if it ever gets finished.

[TSC]

Hicks should patent the 'Internet Ground'.  We've now built three.  All mod cons included.  Guaranteed to put the mancs et al in the shade.

Who needs a fuckin 'spade in 60 days' when photoshop does the job with a tiny percentage of labour and no cost whatsoever.

Some call the councillors at Liverpool CC incompetent aka Matthew St, trams, city of culture, etc.  They must piss themselves everytime they see the latest 'internet ground'.  No wonder they now automatically give thumbs up to planning permission - safe in the knowledge it will forever remain a figment of imagination.

They should rename the team Liverpool Sims fc.  Fantasy football for a fantasy ground.

[Need_a_bevvy]

Would people be happier if it was disapproved
I think the article is good news, can't see why anyone would get angry reading it unless they thought it meant yet another new design was being drawn up, which several people seemed to think. Can't wait for my seasie if it ever gets finished.

Anything Hicks is like waving a red towel before a raging bull.  It's pavlovian 

[redknight]

that revised design is shite. i mean it just goes to show how much they embrace our tradition, [by putting excutive boxes in the kop]. its an Embarrassment and a joke. 

[Need_a_bevvy]

that revised design is shite. i mean it just goes to show how much they embrace our tradition, [by putting excutive boxes in the kop]. its an Embarrassment and a joke. 

I thought was disabled spaces?

At least it was in the original design. And, at the exact same spot?

[Need_a_bevvy]

that revised design is shite. i mean it just goes to show how much they embrace our tradition, [by putting excutive boxes in the kop]. its an Embarrassment and a joke. 

Add to that:

"Plans for public viewing areas, a “skywalk” and roof terrace restaurant in the new Kop stand have been scrapped."

"Skywalk" and a roof terrace restaurant in the Kop.

Fu&% that...

Glad it is gone....

[redknight]

I thought was disabled spaces?

At least it was in the original design. And, at the exact same spot?

  no mate parry came out with a statement while back confirming that unfortunately the new kop is not gonna be single tier and that there is gonna be excutive boxes in the kop as well.

[redprodigal]

  no mate parry came out with a statement while back confirming that unfortunately the new kop is not gonna be single tier and that there is gonna be excutive boxes in the kop as well.

What the fuck, I never saw that quote, "not gonna be single tier", "exec boxes in the kop", I thought that it was a disabled platform which I didn't agree with, not in the Kop, but exec boxes in the Kop, that's fucking shite. Has anyone got the link to that quote.

[Need_a_bevvy]

What the fuck, I never saw that quote, "not gonna be single tier", "exec boxes in the kop", I thought that it was a disabled platform which I didn't agree with, not in the Kop, but exec boxes in the Kop, that's fucking shite. Has anyone got the link to that quote.

I agree. That's utter shite. 

Would also like to see a link if possible.

[cormorant]

I'd love to think otherwise but with both the yanks in charge this is all 

[redprodigal]

  no mate parry came out with a statement while back confirming that unfortunately the new kop is not gonna be single tier and that there is gonna be excutive boxes in the kop as well.

Can't find anything on the net that confirms this, and the official site still shows the Kop as a single tier. As far as I know the plans have not been changed again to accomodate this, are you sure this wan't a pisstake?

[TSC]

Can't find anything on the net that confirms this, and the official site still shows the Kop as a single tier. As far as I know the plans have not been changed again to accomodate this, are you sure this wan't a pisstake?

The whole idea of a new ground is a piss take.  We're only on the receiving end.

[redprodigal]

The whole idea of a new ground is a piss take.  We're only on the receiving end.

I know what you mean but surely nobody would waste millions on this project if it wasn't intended to happen, not even Statler and Waldorf, eh?

[redknight]

Can't find anything on the net that confirms this, and the official site still shows the Kop as a single tier. As far as I know the plans have not been changed again to accomodate this, are you sure this wan't a pisstake?

mate i been serching the official site [where i read this statement] but cant seem to find it. i very much hope it was a pisstake but with these yanks in charge nothing would surprise me.

[Redm]

This is just bollox. They can not pay for a stadium with their own or others money (cos no one will give it to them). This is yet more posturing to get more from DIC. Think I may start dreaming about killing Hicks.

 

Itnever ceases to amaze me how easily people fall for pr shite.