Author Topic: Play Lucas?? (Read 133462 times)

barbudo · « **Reply #1200 on:** April 14, 2008, 03:35:11 pm »

Quote from: fishmyman on April 14, 2008, 03:19:40 pm

the .tvs all gave him around 6-7 out of 10 on match ratings
Sigh sometimes i wonder about that lot

It's because some 11-year old keeps pressing "9" for Gerrard and Torres and "6" for everybody else in the first few seconds of the game. I've been watching Aurelio's ratings for the last few games - he's been one of our better, and certainly one of our most consistent performers for the last 2 months, but he always gets "6.1"

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #1201 on:** April 14, 2008, 05:01:06 pm »

tv pundits are generally clueless
i mean look at andy gray and that other idiot who keep saying that gerarrd should be playing centre midfield because thats where he likes playing lol

i would like to play centre forward for Pool

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #1202 on:** April 20, 2008, 06:37:37 pm »

i think he has almost found the pace of the game.
looks a complete natural to me.

mark my words
this kid is gonna be instrumental to us winning things

rosscolfc · « **Reply #1203 on:** April 20, 2008, 07:46:32 pm »

lucas is so overrated at the moment!
he has poor touch, backs out of tackles and can shoot..........I hope he grows into something but i dont look at him and think to my self "wow that guys got potential" not in the same way i did with Massa, or the younger Steve G

Crazyhorse7778 · « **Reply #1204 on:** April 20, 2008, 07:47:43 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 07:46:32 pm

lucas is so overrated at the moment!
he has poor touch, backs out of tackles and can shoot..........I hope he grows into something but i dont look at him and think to my self "wow that guys got potential" not in the same way i did with Massa, or the younger Steve G

God, you are annoying.

Edit: Who is 'Massa'?

Kings Of Istanbul 5 · « **Reply #1205 on:** April 20, 2008, 07:51:03 pm »

How is he overated it's his first season and has done pretty well

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 07:46:32 pm

lucas is so overrated at the moment!
he has poor touch, backs out of tackles and can shoot..........I hope he grows into something but i dont look at him and think to my self "wow that guys got potential" not in the same way i did with Massa, or the younger Steve G

freedom · « **Reply #1206 on:** April 20, 2008, 07:52:32 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 07:46:32 pm

lucas is so overrated at the moment!
he has poor touch, backs out of tackles and can shoot..........I hope he grows into something but i dont look at him and think to my self "wow that guys got potential" not in the same way i did with Massa, or the younger Steve G

rosscolfc · « **Reply #1207 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:26:22 pm »

can you honestly say you watch him andbet go wow?

bet you one of the same plonkers that thought cheryou was the next zidane?

rosscolfc · « **Reply #1208 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:28:19 pm »

Quote from: Crazyhorse7778 on April 20, 2008, 07:47:43 pm

God, you are annoying.

Edit: Who is 'Massa'?

Massa = javier mascherano

Garstonite · « **Reply #1209 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:29:21 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:26:22 pm

can you honestly say you watch him andbet go wow?
bet you one of the same plonkers that thought cheryou was the next zidane?

Bet you were the same plonker that thought Henry was going to be a flop after his first season.

If you can't see Lucas' potential, you seriously have absolutely no idea about the game. He has been our MOTM in the past two games.

Crazyhorse7778 · « **Reply #1210 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:30:42 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:28:19 pm

Massa = javier mascherano

Why are you making up shite nicknames for our players, first 'gezzer' and now 'massa', they are awful.

Quote from: Garstonite on April 20, 2008, 09:29:21 pm

If you can't see Lucas' potential, you seriously have absolutely no idea about the game. He has been our MOTM in the past two games.

Exactly.

Chivasino · « **Reply #1211 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:31:11 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:26:22 pm

can you honestly say you watch him andbet go wow?

Yes, I can honestly say I do. Next?

sattapaartridge · « **Reply #1212 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:34:56 pm »

lucas is getting better, growing in the team. his confidence is getting higher. still needs more steel though. same with pennant. pennant enjoyed the game though.

rosscolfc · « **Reply #1213 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:38:15 pm »

can believe ho deluded you all are, i hope i get to speak to you all in 2years when he's playing for deportivo or the like!

I would honestly love to be proven wrong and for him to become the next kaka etc.. but i can't see it

no need to be offensive, im aloud a opinion after all or have i wandered in to a manc forum where all opinions mush be checked and edited first.

and as for the names! it was just quicker ok.....and as for making them up i have heard gezzer lots of times whilst sitting on the Kop! :p

Crazyhorse7778 · « **Reply #1214 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:40:22 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:38:15 pm

can believe ho deluded you all are, i hope i get to speak to you all in 2years when he's playing for deportivo or the like!

I would honestly love to be proven wrong and for him to become the next kaka etc.. but i can't see it

no need to be offensive, im aloud a opinion after all or have i wandered in to a manc forum where all opinions mush be checked and edited first.

and as for the names! it was just quicker ok.....and as for making them up i have heard gezzer lots of times whilst sitting on the Kop! :p

Spell check.

Macedonian_Red · « **Reply #1215 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:41:14 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 07:46:32 pm

lucas is so overrated at the moment!
he has poor touch, backs out of tackles and can shoot..........I hope he grows into something but i dont look at him and think to my self "wow that guys got potential" not in the same way i did with Massa, or the younger Steve G

Good ... Now crawl back under your pile of shit ...

Garstonite · « **Reply #1216 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:43:32 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:38:15 pm

can believe ho deluded you all are, i hope i get to speak to you all in 2years when he's playing for deportivo or the like!

I would honestly love to be proven wrong and for him to become the next kaka etc.. but i can't see it

no need to be offensive, im aloud a opinion after all or have i wandered in to a manc forum where all opinions mush be checked and edited first.

and as for the names! it was just quicker ok.....and as for making them up i have heard gezzer lots of times whilst sitting on the Kop! :p

You see, there is your problem. So he has to meet your demand of becoming the new Kaka, otherwise he's a failure? The only person here who is deluded is you. He is no more than a kid in a new country; he requires time to adapt like every other player does and still he has shown that he is a player with magnificent composure, a fine first touch, a great eye for a pass and yet that isn't enough for you? It's this sort of unintelligent, uncultured, ill-knowledged way of thinking that really pisses me off about the 'modern football fan'. You quite clearly haven't got a clue.

I'd also advise you to look up the names of previous Bola de Ouro winners and then come back to me.

rosscolfc · « **Reply #1217 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:44:30 pm »

starting to understand why 99% of the population think liverpol fans are tossers! because im being treated like shit by you idots for voicing an opinion.

sattapaartridge · « **Reply #1218 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:46:00 pm »

erm. new kaka? is kaka a box to box midfielder?

wait for pacheco, he's gonna be special.

Garstonite · « **Reply #1219 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:46:28 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:44:30 pm

starting to understand why 99% of the population think liverpol fans are tossers! because im being treated like shit by you idots for voicing an opinion.

If you think this is bad, check this out:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27509

rosscolfc · « **Reply #1220 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:50:41 pm »

Quote from: Garstonite on April 20, 2008, 09:46:28 pm

If you think this is bad, check this out:

whats your point?

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27509

rosscolfc · « **Reply #1221 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:53:08 pm »

Look right i take it all back, Lucas is god.
we should give him the captains arm band.
next ypfa player of the years.

is that better, as im not aloud my own opinion i have just copied yours, as all this thread seams to be is a brown nose fest!
we all love lucas xxxxx! and so on!

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #1222 on:** April 20, 2008, 09:54:19 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:53:08 pm

Look right i take it all back, Lucas is god.
we should give him the captains arm band.
next ypfa player of the years.

is that better, as im not aloud my own opinion i have just copied yours, as all this thread seams to be is a brown nose fest!
we all love lucas xxxxx! and so on!

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #1223 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:02:18 pm »

build the "team" around lucas imo

ouestlereferee · « **Reply #1224 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:04:07 pm »

Quote from: Crazyhorse7778 on April 20, 2008, 07:47:43 pm

Edit: Who is 'Massa'?

He has good pace and a lot of drive

bigbear · « **Reply #1225 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:07:28 pm »

Quote from: Garstonite on April 20, 2008, 09:29:21 pm

Bet you were the same plonker that thought Henry was going to be a flop after his first season.

If you can't see Lucas' potential, you seriously have absolutely no idea about the game. He has been our MOTM in the past two games.

I thought he was v Fulham and just grew and grew in confidence and influence as the game grew.

I thought he did fine v Blackburn but Gerrard shone out as the constant threat and was my MOTM.

Gus 1855 · « **Reply #1226 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:09:24 pm »

Still a way to go yet, but he is perfectly capable at the moment.

The key for me is that he appears to be learning and is improving in certain areas of his game.

As it stands, surely that is all that can be expected of him.

bigbear · « **Reply #1227 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:10:09 pm »

Quote from: rosscolfc on April 20, 2008, 09:44:30 pm

starting to understand why 99% of the population think liverpol fans are tossers! because im being treated like shit by you idots for voicing an opinion.

I think you are entitled to an opinion but are being a little premature on a 20 yr old brazillian who keeps it nice and simple and has done far more than you could have hoped this year.

Gus 1855 · « **Reply #1228 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:14:42 pm »

Rosscolfc.

Can you tell me what you want from Lucas at this stage of his career, and what your expectations are over the next five years?

Not being sarcastic, or rude, just asking a simple, sensible question, and would appreciate a reasoned response.

bigbear · « **Reply #1229 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:15:35 pm »

Quote from: Garstonite on April 20, 2008, 09:43:32 pm

I'd also advise you to look up the names of previous Bola de Ouro winners and then come back to me.

That list is worth looking at by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bola_de_Ouro

Not too many duck eggs.

Uhoh AureliOs · « **Reply #1230 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:38:37 pm »

Quote from: bigbear on April 20, 2008, 10:15:35 pm

That list is worth looking at by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bola_de_Ouro

Not too many duck eggs.

Some extremely good players on that list - I'd be extatic if Lucas develops to a similar level. He certainly will have a good chance at doing it here playing in our current setup, great experience for the lad.

BCCC · « **Reply #1231 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:44:13 pm »

I think he's exceeded Rafa's expectations already this season. I would have no problem if he lined up alongside Mascherano on Tuesday night.

bigbear · « **Reply #1232 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:45:01 pm »

Quote from: Uhoh AureliOs on April 20, 2008, 10:38:37 pm

Some extremely good players on that list - I'd be extatic if Lucas develops to a similar level. He certainly will have a good chance at doing it here playing in our current setup, great experience for the lad.

He takes the ball on the move beautifully and gets his head up early. Can play in tight areas and spot a pass too.

I think he will naturally develop alongside Mascherano as our first choice central pairing. He complements Mascherano better than Xabi does because he can move forward with the ball which Alonso doesn't really do. Next year it will be equally shared out but Lucas will develop as a top midfield player.

All he needs is a few more goals and a skinhead.

mulane · « **Reply #1233 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:45:41 pm »

seriously whos gezzer

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #1234 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:46:48 pm »

Quote from: bigbear on April 20, 2008, 10:45:01 pm

All he needs is a few more goals and a skinhead.

Get rid of those lovely locks..... Him and Torres should do shampoo adverts

Crouser · « **Reply #1235 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:49:06 pm »

IMO Rafa looks stunned how good Lucas settled. He already played most of the big matches in this season, even the competition is biggest in that place. He looks like he could be the new number 8 in Brazil national team. He forced Momo to pack. Lucas had great reputation in Brazil, and the price looks funny. If Real bought him for 30m, everybody would be saying he is new Zico or Socrates. He just needs 10 games in a row, and will become a Boss!!

Gus 1855 · « **Reply #1236 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:49:59 pm »

No, his locks are very necessary to hide his rather unsightly countenance.

It could be worse than Skrtel

Gus 1855 · « **Reply #1237 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:50:31 pm »

Quote from: Crouser on April 20, 2008, 10:49:06 pm

IMO Rafa looks stunned how good Lucas settled. He already played most of the big matches in this season, even the competition is biggest in that place. He looks like he could be the new number 8 in Brazil national team. He forced Momo to pack. Lucas had great reputation in Brazil, and the price looks funny. If Real bought him for 30m, everybody would be saying he is new Zico or Socrates. He just needs 10 games in a row, and will become a Boss!!

One step at a time eh

Mimi · « **Reply #1238 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:52:14 pm »

Quote from: GusMcLean on April 20, 2008, 10:49:59 pm

No, his locks are very necessary to hide his rather unsightly countenance.

Harsh! He has a beautiful smile, yes? Anyways, I think of our lot perhaps the most unexpected is that it's Sami who's done shampoo commercials as a spokesman for L' Oreal.

Uhoh AureliOs · « **Reply #1239 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:56:01 pm »

Quote from: Mimi on April 20, 2008, 10:52:14 pm

Harsh! He has a beautiful smile, yes? Anyways, I think of our lot perhaps the most unexpected is that it's Sami who's done shampoo commercials as a spokesman for L' Oreal.