Topic: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)

[Caligula?]

Next season could be his breakout season in the first team just like 2012/13 was for Sterling. I remember him giving City a torrid time in that 2-2 at Anfield and he never looked back from there and I could absolutely see Elliot doing the same. He certainly seems to have enough talent to do so.

[Alan B'Stard]

Harvey Elliot making his League Cup debut and almost scoring at 16 years old.

This should be a salutary lesson to Bobby Duncan at 18 years old and only at the start of his second season at Liverpool who would have been playing in that match had he exercised reasonable patience. Instead thanks to him forcing a move, he is currently playing in Fiorentina's U-19 team (despite the fact that he was promoted to Liverpool's U-23 team this season)...

That deal has to be about the money! Why else would you leave Liverpool, a club that gives youth a chance to a mid table Italian team?

On the plus side; Elliot looked a real player. Some nice touches and was unlucky not to score.

[Qston]

I've trademarked 'Joey Deacon' - every one of you schoolkids from the 70's and 80's needs to think on, or you can expect a very stern 'cease and desist' letter from my lawyers.

Were you the joey of your school ?

[LallanaInPyjamas]

I don't want to heap too much pressure on the lad but I think he might be the new Messi.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Best place in he world for him. He will get opportunities this year, real ones

[Bolrick]

He was truely awesome. Looked so comfortable with the ball. He also glides past players quite easily. He reminds me of a prime ozil and i think he will eventually be so much better than him.

[Carra-ton]

That composure, we don't have that kind of player in our midfield, maybe apart from Naby. Wish he was a couple years older, because at 16 I don't see Klopp giving him much play time in the main games.

[CraigDS]

I don't want to heap too much pressure on the lad but I think he might be the new Messi.

Not as good as VVD then?

[DelTrotter]

Reckon he'd get about 10-15 assists per game if he played with Salah and Mane, was great last night, hopefully he starts v Arsenal.

[Phil M]

Reckon he'd get about 10-15 assists per game if he played with Salah and Mane, was great last night, hopefully he starts v Arsenal.

Yeah 15-0 is common these days.

[cheshiremike]

Fantastic talent and very exciting future ahead.

I know we don't play with a number 10 but he would be incredible at that role.

[Sheer Magnetism]

Great debut, some of those jinks and and through balls were fantastic. Really hopes he gets some game time in the league later this season, maybe when we're two or three goals up and one of our front three could do with a rest/

[CraigDS]

Could possibly see him in the Firmino role in the future. Think he’s played up top a few times for the U23s in recent weeks hasn’t he?

[Jookie]

Great debut, some of those jinks and and through balls were fantastic. Really hopes he gets some game time in the league later this season, maybe when we're two or three goals up and one of our front three could do with a rest/

He'd have to get on the bench 1st.

He was really excellent last night but if everyone is fit he's not getting on the bench ahead of Origi or Shaqiri at the moment. You could argue that Brewster is ahead of him in the pecking order currently.

Elloit is an outstanding youngster but there's no need to push him too hard. His aim this season will be to progress in the under 23 and be a standout player at the level. Added to this he should be looking to get into the match day squads for the League and FA Cup games. Another aim may be to be ahead of Brewster in the pecking order by the time the season ends.

The above are pretty high aims for a 16 year old. The same aims will in general apply to Brewster. Unless we have an injury crisis then I would say there's likely to be little need to throw a 16 year old into a league game this season. No matter how talented they are.

[CraigDS]

Wonder if he’ll get on the bench this weekend with Shaq and Origi still out?

[Phil M]

Wonder if he’ll get on the bench this weekend with Shaq and Origi still out?

Brewster was there v Chelsea so not implausible.

[El Lobo]

Andy Hinchcliffe said last night ‘he’s had to patiently wait for this opportunity’ 

[ThePoolMan]

I don't want to heap too much pressure on the lad but I think he might be the new Messi.

Nonsense, he is only the new Maradona...

[Bergersrightwingviews]

Would rather that he ends up our oldest goalscorer to be honest. Youngest goalscorers mean very little.

But yes, he looks tremendous.

If we could combine his game intelligence and technique with the power of a Jordon Ibe he would be unstoppable already.

As it is, he probably needs a little more strength and speed.

I had to look this up.

Oldest goalscorer: Billy Liddell, 38 years, 55 days (against Stoke City, 5 March 1960).

[Circa1892]

Would rather that he ends up our oldest goalscorer to be honest. Youngest goalscorers mean very little.

Looking forward to the quoted post it 2041 when it happens...

[SMASHerano]

Think we have a gem on our hands.

[Fordy]

Brilliant talent

[KillieRed]

He is very talented. A bit of Wilshire, a bit Lallana.

Excellent touch & football brain. His obvious limitation is pace, which might see him as a midfielder rather than a forward in our current set-up. He should have scored both chances, but at least he got himself into those positions.

Hopefully he’ll e around for years to come.

[lionel_messias]

Let's not go over the top and compare him to Jack Wilshere, eh




He looks really good, hopefully he is learning on the training pitch with Mo, Bobby and Mane; seeing him on the field with one or two of them should be very exciting.

[KillieRed]

Let's not go over the top and compare him to Jack Wilshere, eh




He looks really good, hopefully he is learning on the training pitch with Mo, Bobby and Mane; seeing him on the field with one or two of them should be very exciting.

I take it back, he’s a slow Lionel Messi 😉

[Asam]

He is very talented. A bit of Wilshire, a bit Lallana.

Excellent touch & football brain. His obvious limitation is pace, which might see him as a midfielder rather than a forward in our current set-up. He should have scored both chances, but at least he got himself into those positions.

Hopefully he’ll e around for years to come.

I don't think pace will hurt him because he's elusive and reads the game very well

[Crosby Nick]

Looking forward to the quoted post it 2041 when it happens...

Jesus that puts his age into perspective. Anfield will be like something out of the Jetsons by then.

[PhaseOfPlay]

Where did the "lacking pace" thing come from?

I mean, he's no Salah, but he's certainly not slow.

[TepidT2O]

Where did the "lacking pace" thing come from?

I mean, he's no Salah, but he's certainly not slow.

At 16 there’s plenty of room for athleticism to develop any way isn’t there?

He’s no Pirlo even now..

[Yorkykopite]

Where did the "lacking pace" thing come from?

I mean, he's no Salah, but he's certainly not slow.

I'm habituated to hearing this now about any footballer who is slower than Traore.

On the evidence of last night not only is Elliot quick, he's quick off the mark and quick running with the ball. He did something in the second half, too, when he was on the left flank, which suggests he knows instinctively what line to run in to protect the ball from an encroaching defender. With a mere couple of degrees change of direction he put an extra 5 yards between himself and his pursuer.

[CraigDS]

He’s got pace but is he fast?

[PhaseOfPlay]

At 16 there’s plenty of room for athleticism to develop any way isn’t there?

He’s no Pirlo even now..

Yep. Probably not to Salah standards, but he can definitely improve his power and increase his running efficiency through training, and his stride length if he's still growing, I think.

[PhaseOfPlay]

He’s got pace but is he fast?

Only when he's quick

[Johnny Foreigner]

Only when he's quick

I don't really understand how its possible for a lad born 2003 to do a performance like that against professionals and playing together with international stars and dont look lost.. the lads I used train was born 2001/2002; put in a lot of effort and were good lads - but they find the transition to senior pub leagues pretty tough - all in relative comparison though..

Do you know how its possible to prepare for that ? play against older players; just excel in your age group - or 1 in a million talent ?

[PhaseOfPlay]

I don't really understand how its possible for a lad born 2003 to do a performance like that against professionals and playing together with international stars and dont look lost.. the lads I used train was born 2001/2002; put in a lot of effort and were good lads - but they find the transition to senior pub leagues pretty tough - all in relative comparison though..

Do you know how its possible to prepare for that ? play against older players; just excel in your age group - or 1 in a million talent ?

Most of the players I know who couldn't make the step up couldn't do it for two reasons - athleticism, and mentality. And they often go hand-in-hand. Mostly, they didn't have the speed to cope with the level up (even in pub leagues), or they didn't have the mentality to keep pushing through the initial failures, or to look after their body, or to do the demanding training. After those two, touch and game intelligence are the next two issues that hold players back. But having the first two qualities in abundance makes moving up much easier.

[Djozer]

Let's not go over the top and compare him to Jack Wilshere, eh
.

 

In fairness, from what I can remember, Wilshere looked shit hot at 16/17, before injuries (and possibly a lack of professionalism?) turned him into whatever he is now. To be honest, Elliot reminds me a bit of him at that age in many ways. The kid looks ace, stupidly good for one so young.

[Johnny Foreigner]

Most of the players I know who couldn't make the step up couldn't do it for two reasons - athleticism, and mentality. And they often go hand-in-hand. Mostly, they didn't have the speed to cope with the level up (even in pub leagues), or they didn't have the mentality to keep pushing through the initial failures, or to look after their body, or to do the demanding training. After those two, touch and game intelligence are the next two issues that hold players back. But having the first two qualities in abundance makes moving up much easier.

cheers ! thinking about it - some of the players i kind a watched over the years that made a decent career surprised me a bit when i look back; but i guess they were tough mentally/run/fought and looked after themselves. on the contrary - some of the boys that used to score hat-tricks for fun when they were 11-12-13 couldnt get a game anywhere now

[PhaseOfPlay]

cheers ! thinking about it - some of the players i kind a watched over the years that made a decent career surprised me a bit when i look back; but i guess they were tough mentally/run/fought and looked after themselves. on the contrary - some of the boys that used to score hat-tricks for fun when they were 11-12-13 couldnt get a game anywhere now

That would be me  

[PhaseOfPlay]

 

In fairness, from what I can remember, Wilshere looked shit hot at 16/17, before injuries (and possibly a lack of professionalism?) turned him into whatever he is now. To be honest, Elliot reminds me a bit of him at that age in many ways. The kid looks ace, stupidly good for one so young.

Given Wilshere's smoking habit, it's probably more likely he never had the mentality to REALLY make something of his talents.

[Johnny Foreigner]

That would be me  

Had you more of a thinking xabi alonso than a power forward