Author Topic: Sexual Abuse in Football, Andy Woodward, Paul Stewart Speak Out (Read 18841 times)

KurtVerbose · « **Reply #80 on:** November 26, 2016, 07:04:50 am »

Quote from: KurtVerbose on November 25, 2016, 08:08:21 pm

So it was discussed at board level, though not at an official board meeting. All looks a bit like how the catholic church dealt with dodgy priests.

It's exactly like the catholic church. Pay hush money and move the abuser on to somewhere else.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/25/football-sex-abuse-scandal-top-clubs-made-secret-payments-keep/

Alan_X · « **Reply #81 on:** November 26, 2016, 08:24:49 am »

Quote from: mersey_paradiso on November 26, 2016, 02:46:31 am

Here's the 1996 Dispatches documentary in full :

I remember that. 20 years on and one of the most telling comments is from Ken Swales who says that he couldn't believe it because football is a 'man's game' - a macho sport. A real problem with sexual abuse against children is the obsession with celebrity and political (some real and some imaginary) paedophile rings when the truth is that the vast majority of sexual abuse is carried out by family members and family friends or people who get themselves into positions of trust like football coaches, priests, scout masters, teachers.

Be shocked by this of course but remember that there are thousands of children being abused every day by 'ordinary' people.

TipTopKop · « **Reply #82 on:** November 26, 2016, 05:19:57 pm »

Quote from: KurtVerbose on November 26, 2016, 06:51:51 am

Four police forces are investigating. I suspect there will be more charges brought.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38107910

Ah thanks for that, glad it's being looked at.

FlashGordon · « **Reply #83 on:** November 27, 2016, 01:58:49 am »

Some of the sentences handed out to these offenders are an absolute farce.

CheshireDave · « **Reply #84 on:** November 28, 2016, 03:41:47 pm »

Quote from: Red85 on November 27, 2016, 01:58:49 am

Some of the sentences handed out to these offenders are an absolute farce.

Yep - 4 years in prison for raping a young boy. Madness.

Anyway, the paedophile has been found unconscious and taken to hospital. - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38134941

MichaelA · « **Reply #85 on:** November 28, 2016, 05:41:00 pm »

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/28/barry-bennell-hospital

FlashGordon · « **Reply #86 on:** November 28, 2016, 05:54:27 pm »

Quote from: CheshireDave on November 28, 2016, 03:41:47 pm

Yep - 4 years in prison for raping a young boy. Madness.

Anyway, the paedophile has been found unconscious and taken to hospital. - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38134941

Just heard on the radio there of someone getting two and a half years, I mean what kind of a deterrent is that?

KurtVerbose · « **Reply #87 on:** November 28, 2016, 06:13:54 pm »

Even the 9 years he got in 1998 was lenient. I think the courts would deal with any new convictions much more severly.

Glitter was convicted of attempted rape, four counts of indecent assault, and one of having sex with a girl under the age of 13 and got 16 years.

Maybe more comparable is Chris Denning - 21 sex offences between 1969 and 1986, against 11 boys, the youngest of whom was eight. He got 13 years.

Mumm-Ra · « **Reply #88 on:** November 28, 2016, 08:56:20 pm »

Quote from: Red85 on November 28, 2016, 05:54:27 pm

Just heard on the radio there of someone getting two and a half years, I mean what kind of a deterrent is that?

With this kind of thing, I don't think any punishment would be a deterrent. The only possible deterrent would be an increased likelihood of getting caught

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #89 on:** November 28, 2016, 09:36:36 pm »

The sentences are increasing, they are much longer than what they once were.

4-5 years is now 9-16, sometimes more, for similar, or sometimes less charges

redalways · « **Reply #90 on:** November 28, 2016, 10:40:35 pm »

Surely the FA would never be involved in trying to cover something like this up simply to protect their own position in the sport?

They would surely never do that as they are an excellent sports body.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #91 on:** November 29, 2016, 06:42:49 am »

Eric Bristow suggests that this wouldn't have happened if they were 'proper men'

Staggering.

redalways · « **Reply #92 on:** November 29, 2016, 08:20:32 am »

Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on November 29, 2016, 06:42:49 am

Eric Bristow suggests that this wouldn't have happened if they were 'proper men'

Staggering.

Thought that c*nt had died years ago. Most normal people would be sympathetic to kids who have suffered sexual abuse , it is very strange that Bristow appears implicitly to be partly blaming the victims.

CornerFlag · « **Reply #93 on:** November 29, 2016, 08:22:42 am »

Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on November 29, 2016, 06:42:49 am

Eric Bristow suggests that this wouldn't have happened if they were 'proper men'

Staggering.

Yeah, he seemed muddled between using "poof" and "paedo" too. I can see how the two are easily confused. Poor Eric.

The massive twat.

Red Beret · « **Reply #94 on:** November 29, 2016, 09:04:12 am »

Stayed out of this thread as I have a close personal (female) friend who is a survivor of sexual abuse, plus I'm acquainted with several others.

It's not sports related, nor boys or young men but I just wanted to say Eric Bristow is a massive tw@t.

Thank you.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #95 on:** November 29, 2016, 09:12:03 am »

Just seen the Bristow comments. What a filthy piece of shit. With the 2 World championships about to be played in a few weeks, surely this c*nt shouldn't be getting any air time.

damomad · « **Reply #96 on:** November 29, 2016, 10:18:26 am »

This is why I hate the internet at times, gives absolute dickheads a platform to spout shit. I had never heard of Bristow before, and he has just gone and put a real stain on the darts community.

cloggypop · « **Reply #97 on:** November 29, 2016, 10:30:37 am »

He's been sacked

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/nov/29/eric-bristow-loses-sky-sports-role-twitter-sex-abuse-story-comments

Buck Pete · « **Reply #98 on:** November 29, 2016, 10:57:43 am »

Quote from: cloggypop on November 29, 2016, 10:30:37 am

He's been sacked

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/nov/29/eric-bristow-loses-sky-sports-role-twitter-sex-abuse-story-comments

Jesus Christ

What an absolute clueless ignorant clown.

That's his nice little SKY earner down the swanny so lets all laugh at Eric.

ggcc14 · « **Reply #99 on:** November 29, 2016, 11:00:40 am »

He added the victims should not be able to look themselves in the mirror for not "getting their own back" on their abusers in adulthood.

what a c*nt

KurtVerbose · « **Reply #100 on:** November 29, 2016, 11:48:31 am »

Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on November 29, 2016, 06:42:49 am

Eric Bristow suggests that this wouldn't have happened if they were 'proper men'

They weren't 'proper men', they were children. What a dickhead.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #101 on:** November 29, 2016, 11:51:29 am »

Quote from: cloggypop on November 29, 2016, 10:30:37 am

He's been sacked

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/nov/29/eric-bristow-loses-sky-sports-role-twitter-sex-abuse-story-comments

I'm glad they seen sense very quickly. He's got a charity thing going on in a day or 2 aswell. Wonder will that still go ahead?

BlackandWhitePaul · « **Reply #102 on:** November 29, 2016, 03:05:08 pm »

They are saying on Radio Newcastle that Newcastle United have cancelled an event that was to be held next month at St James Park involving Eric Bristow.

Salger · « **Reply #103 on:** November 29, 2016, 04:10:25 pm »

Quote from: CheshireDave on November 28, 2016, 03:41:47 pm

Yep - 4 years in prison for raping a young boy. Madness.

Anyway, the paedophile has been found unconscious and taken to hospital. - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38134941

I'm assuming this was a suicide attempt. I don't see him sticking around long enough to be brought to justice.

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #104 on:** November 29, 2016, 04:15:37 pm »

Quote from: cloggypop on November 29, 2016, 10:30:37 am

He's been sacked

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/nov/29/eric-bristow-loses-sky-sports-role-twitter-sex-abuse-story-comments

Good. Hit the fat, sweaty waster in the pocket, the only language his type understand.

Alf · « **Reply #105 on:** November 29, 2016, 05:05:12 pm »

Never liked Eric Bristow hopefully he's also wiped out of any highlight reels and mentions during the tournament as well as getting the boot.

liversaint · « **Reply #106 on:** November 29, 2016, 05:06:28 pm »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38150244

Just breaking now

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #107 on:** November 29, 2016, 06:17:22 pm »

More on Bristow.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/darts/38141331

That him finished in the public eye.

Commie Bobbie · « **Reply #108 on:** November 29, 2016, 10:59:55 pm »

I've kept my council on here due to my own childhood experiences - however there is a report tonight on the Telegraph website - which, if confirmed starts to question whether the authorities are prepared to do something about the evil in our midst.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/11/29/chelsea-made-secret-payment-player-child-sex-abuse-claim/

Paid off in the last three fucking years.

I want to cry.

As for that fucking c*nt Bristow, I hope the next time we hear of him is a fucking footnote at the bottom of the Guardian sports page with a single line sentence announcing the neanderthal caveman has croaked it.

Utter fucking spoon.

Red Viper · « **Reply #109 on:** November 30, 2016, 09:33:05 am »

Bellend has 'apologised' for his comments but is still retweeting stuff in support of what he said.

What a twat.

Ray K · « **Reply #110 on:** November 30, 2016, 10:18:15 am »

@richard_conway
Eric Bristow's manager asked BBC for £5000 (+VAT) when asked if his client would discuss his tweets about the survivors of child sex abuse.
BBC declined to pay Bristow this or any fee. He has since deleted the tweets.

Igor Tripod Biscan · « **Reply #111 on:** November 30, 2016, 10:22:51 am »

Quote from: A change without it backfiring! on November 30, 2016, 09:33:05 am

Bellend has 'apologised' for his comments but is still retweeting stuff in support of what he said.

What a twat.

Wonder what his opinion on the Chelsea cover up is....actually I couldn't give a fuck

Andy · « **Reply #112 on:** November 30, 2016, 01:26:29 pm »

Just wanted to say well done to everyone that has spoken publicly about what they have had to endure, both at the time and the impact on their lives. Can't imagine how horrendous it must be.

Would like to see our club make a statement about it all, even something simple like stating their policies or condemning it.

To think these c*nts used our love for the game to exploit our children. 2016 really has been an absolute shit-fest.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #113 on:** November 30, 2016, 01:38:05 pm »

Quote from: A change without it backfiring! on November 30, 2016, 09:33:05 am

Bellend has 'apologised' for his comments but is still retweeting stuff in support of what he said.

What a twat.

The PC gone mad brigade again. These days you can't even mock the victims of child sex abuse without causing offence. Lighten up people!

One of his tweets which he has since deleted and his original apology was "Sorry I meant peado not poof". It's unreal how thick some people are.

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #114 on:** November 30, 2016, 01:52:25 pm »

Bristow had some serious mental issues in his career, did that make him a 'poof' as he couldn't contemplate throwing a dart when he had his issues?

Andy · « **Reply #115 on:** November 30, 2016, 02:07:42 pm »

Quote from: Laughter is the best medicine... on November 30, 2016, 01:52:25 pm

Bristow had some serious mental issues in his career, did that make him a 'poof' as he couldn't contemplate throwing a dart when he had his issues?

In his world: yes.

liversaint · « **Reply #116 on:** November 30, 2016, 02:54:34 pm »

Quote from: Laughter is the best medicine... on November 30, 2016, 01:52:25 pm

Bristow had some serious mental issues in his career, did that make him a 'poof' as he couldn't contemplate throwing a dart when he had his issues?

It wouldn't surprise me if this is his way of leading up to him doing a story on b being abused himself. Hopefully not for his sake.

elbow · « **Reply #117 on:** December 1, 2016, 12:28:40 am »

Stop talking about him. He's done, finished, a footnote.

KurtVerbose · « **Reply #118 on:** December 1, 2016, 07:19:44 am »

The NSPCC helpline has had 860 calls in a week.

Trada · « **Reply #119 on:** December 1, 2016, 07:49:21 am »

I'm surprised no one from any other sport hasn't came forward yet.