Topic: Brexit: "Vultus inanis est et mori in fossa ego sum!"

[Mutton Geoff]

He’s an idiot himself.

Monumentally incompetent.

And it’s years since we first warned that he was utterly incompetent (I top of just being spectacularly wrong).

And now?  Three major elections in a row where he’s lost seats... against this shower of shit, and still some question it.

To be fair he didnt lose seats to that shower of shit this time they lost more than him

[Sangria]

All earning probably a lot more money than you ( not bad for an idiot is it


On another note the obsession with some in here about Dave even to the point of quoting his stuff on twitter is so hysterically funny in my opinion, especially as Dave probably doesnt give a shit about what any of you think.

It's remarkable how the surname Corbyn, Murray, etc. gets you well paid jobs in the Labour party hierarchy.

[ShakaHislop]

This is genuinely interesting from McDonnell. Basically saying there should be a public vote in all circumstances (either on a deal, or to stop a no deal) and downplaying the likelyhood of a GE happening (likening Tory MPs voting for one as turkeys voting for Christmas)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48424278/john-mcdonnell-brexit-needs-to-go-back-to-the-people

Labour's Shadow Chancellor @johnmcdonnellMP says another EU referendum is the "only option" as it is "highly unlikely" the Conservatives will vote for another general election.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsPolitics/status/1133057213591949313

[Lush is the best medicine...]

All earning probably a lot more money than you ( not bad for an idiot is it

difference is I can make good money even when I’m not mates with my bosses

[oldfordie]

Jesus, Anne Widdecombes voice is doing my head, if you trained a parrot too sit in it's cage all day shouting Brexit it would sound exactly like Widdecombe

[TheShanklyGates]

All earning probably a lot more money than you ( not bad for an idiot is it


On another note the obsession with some in here about Dave even to the point of quoting his stuff on twitter is so hysterically funny in my opinion, especially as Dave probably doesnt give a shit about what any of you think.

That's okay, we find him hysterically funny as well

It's a little bit sad to see somebody so indoctrinated into the cult of Corbyn that they've lost all reason but as it's clear he 'doesnt [sic] give a shit about what any of [us] think' laughter would seem to be the best option.

[Mutton Geoff]

That's okay, we find him hysterically funny as well

It's a little bit sad to see somebody so indoctrinated into the cult of Corbyn that they've lost all reason but as it's clear he 'doesnt [sic] give a shit about what any of [us] think' laughter would seem to be the best option.

I think you will find though the obsessional actions are only going one way in here cant have him not keeping in line with the RAWK elite can we 

[Lush is the best medicine...]

RAWK elite next it’ll be the RAWK bildaberg!

[Mutton Geoff]

RAWK elite next it’ll be the RAWK bildaberg!

Glad you appreciate my work fella

[TepidT2O]

I find it all desperately sad myself.

[drmick]

If there is a genuine push now for a referendum- what is the question? Surely it can only be No Deal vs Revoke? Everything else is unicorns.

[Riquende]

If there is a genuine push now for a referendum- what is the question? Surely it can only be No Deal vs Revoke? Everything else is unicorns.

Both sides would be angling to put themselves against May's deal.

Remainers: "No deal won't get through the HoC, therefore it's the Deal vs Revoke"
Leavers: "Remaining in the EU was decided against in 2016, therefore it's the Deal vs No Deal"

[Lusty]

Jesus, Anne Widdecombes voice is doing my head, if you trained a parrot too sit in it's cage all day shouting Brexit it would sound exactly like Widdecombe

I live in her old constituency. Her idea of campaigning was to drive around the town screaming at us through a megaphone. You have no idea.

[ShakaHislop]

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsPolitics/status/1133057213591949313

I agree

https://twitter.com/JonAshworth/status/1133061103922176000

[killer-heels]

If there is a genuine push now for a referendum- what is the question? Surely it can only be No Deal vs Revoke? Everything else is unicorns.

Absolute madness to put No Deal on the ballot paper.

[ShakaHislop]

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1133101202621837314

Corbyn and/or Milne are being more stubborn about the "we want a GE" part than even the likes of McDonnell are now.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I live in her old constituency. Her idea of campaigning was to drive around the town screaming at us through a megaphone. You have no idea.

was she trying to lose?

[drmick]

Absolute madness to put No Deal on the ballot paper.

Agreed. So what is the question then? Because a negotiated deal will have to be a new one, which means an extension, which means begging the EU for an extension, and so on.

[ShakaHislop]

Agreed. So what is the question then? Because a negotiated deal will have to be a new one, which means an extension, which means begging the EU for an extension, and so on.

Says who?

[Lusty]

was she trying to lose?

It's a very safe seat! If you've never had Anne Widdecombe scream at you through a megaphone from the back of a pickup truck, you're very lucky.

[killer-heels]

Agreed. So what is the question then? Because a negotiated deal will have to be a new one, which means an extension, which means begging the EU for an extension, and so on.

No idea and thats what makes a second vote difficult.

[TepidT2O]

Jesus, Anne Widdecombes voice is doing my head, if you trained a parrot too sit in it's cage all day shouting Brexit it would sound exactly like Widdecombe

I’ve met her twice.

She’s utterly repellant.  Made my flesh crawl.

[oldfordie]

I live in her old constituency. Her idea of campaigning was to drive around the town screaming at us through a megaphone. You have no idea.

     

[red_Mark1980]

I live in her old constituency. Her idea of campaigning was to drive around the town screaming at us through a megaphone. You have no idea.

Re elect Mayor Goldie Wilson. Progress is his middle name

[PaulF]

Re elect Mayor Goldie Wilson. Progress is his middle name

Watch out for the lightening striking the clock tower though. 😀

[oldfordie]

I’ve met her twice.

She’s utterly repellant.  Made my flesh crawl.

Yeah, Forget her political views, she just comes across as being a nasty drama queen. high pitched shrill every time she opens her gob.

[ShakaHislop]

I’ve met her twice.

She’s utterly repellant.  Made my flesh crawl.

British TV allowed her to reinvent herself as a lovable (anti-gay) eccentric. It doesn't matter that she supports Brexit which, in the words of pro-Brexit economists, will destroy British manufacturing; she was funny on Strictly!

Like that prick Portillo and his endless (licence fee payer funded) train journeys.

[Jiminy Cricket]

All earning probably a lot more money than you ( not bad for an idiot is it


On another note the obsession with some in here about Dave even to the point of quoting his stuff on twitter is so hysterically funny in my opinion, especially as Dave probably doesnt give a shit about what any of you think.

Dave does not even care what he thinks. He only cares about Corbyn's proclamations. There is never any discussion. Surely you have noticed this!?

[Jiminy Cricket]

I think you will find though the obsessional actions are only going one way in here cant have him not keeping in line with the RAWK elite can we 

Fucking dying here!

[Riquende]

I’ve met her twice.

She’s utterly repellant.  Made my flesh crawl.

Surprised you agreed to that second date then.

Unless crawling flesh is a fetish...

[TepidT2O]

Surprised you agreed to that second date then.

Unless crawling flesh is a fetish...

#pukes#

She visited the school I worked at twice.  I only met her briefly.  Yuk

Happily the week after she came (actually not the best phrase to use with her I suppose) Armando Iannuci came to visit and he was everything you’d hope.  Prince Phillip was pretty cool too.

[drmick]

Says who?

Jeremy/Labour with their deal. Because you can be damn sure that the new Tory leader isn't going to use May's deal, nor put any deal to a referendum.

[oldfordie]

Question to May or the next PM I don't know the answer too. maybe some on here might.
If we leave with no deal then that means no WA, all the agreements we've reached to solve some serious problems like aviation are in that WA.
I expect solutions to be found in the future but that will mean making a deal with the EU and it will take time.
So does a No deal mean no planes etc will be able to fly into the EU and to the USA.

[Zeb]

Question to May or the next PM I don't know the answer too. maybe some on here might.
If we leave with no deal then that means no WA, all the agreements we've reached to solve some serious problems like aviation are in that WA.
I expect solutions to be found in the future but that will mean making a deal with the EU and it will take time.
So does a No deal mean no planes etc will be able to fly into the EU and to the USA.

No. The EU has prepared temporary arrangements to minimise disruption to the EU so far as it's possible. It's purely one sided though so they can yank them whenever they choose.

edit: what they've been doing to prepare: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-19-1813_en.htm

[oldfordie]

No. The EU has prepared temporary arrangements to minimise disruption to the EU so far as it's possible. It's purely one sided though so they can yank them whenever they choose.

Thanks. So I assume open skies to fly to the USA is ok as well with the USA.
Reading some of the EUs contingency plans for a no deal doesn't paint a good picture, more like keeping the basics going rather than keeping things as they are. they will have us by the balls and they know it. they are in a different league to our politicians.

Air connectivity and safety: these two measures will ensure basic air connectivity in order to avoid full interruption of air traffic between the EU and the UK in the event of a “no-deal” scenario.

 Road connectivity: allows for the continuation of safe basic road connectivity between the EU and the UK for a limited period of time, provided that the UK gives reciprocal treatment to EU companies and operators.

Rail connectivity: ensures the validity of safety authorisations for certain parts of rail infrastructure for a strictly limited period of three months to allow long-term solutions in line with EU law to be put in place. This is, in particular, related to the Channel Tunnel and will be conditional on the United Kingdom maintaining safety standards identical to EU requirements.

[Zeb]

Thanks. So I assume open skies to fly to the USA is ok as well with the USA.

From recollection, there's a bilateral agreement we've signed with the US but it's more restricted than what we have now. Think it was announced towards end of last year but I can't find any info on a quick google.

edit: ha. German press has details: https://www.dw.com/en/us-and-uk-reach-post-brexit-open-skies-deal-on-air-services/a-46496516

[Trada]

Why are MPs saying now we need a people vote. But what will the people be voting on there is no deal and doesn't look likely that one will be passed to be voted on. they really mean a 2nd referendum but don't want to say it. A real peoples vote is a general election. 

The Tories will soon be for leaving without a deal, Seems to me the only way we can leave the EU with a deal is with a Labour Government and for that to happen we need a general election.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Why are MPs saying now we need a people vote. But what will the people be voting on there is no deal and doesn't look likely that one will be passed to be voted on. they really mean a 2nd referendum but don't want to say it. A real peoples vote is a general election. 

The Tories will soon be for leaving without a deal, Seems to me the only way we can leave the EU with a deal is with a Labour Government and for that to happen we need a general election.

And you will grow and extra bollock & admit that Comrade Jezza is fraud before that happens

[Zeb]

Why are MPs saying now we need a people vote. But what will the people be voting on there is no deal and doesn't look likely that one will be passed to be voted on. they really mean a 2nd referendum but don't want to say it. A real peoples vote is a general election. 

The Tories will soon be for leaving without a deal, Seems to me the only way we can leave the EU with a deal is with a Labour Government and for that to happen we need a general election.

Look forward to you guiding Labour to making that case in a General Election. It's been a wonderful thing to watch the past couple of elections. Make it a hattrick.

[oldfordie]

From recollection, there's a bilateral agreement we've signed with the US but it's more restricted than what we have now. Think it was announced towards end of last year but I can't find any info on a quick google.

edit: ha. German press has details: https://www.dw.com/en/us-and-uk-reach-post-brexit-open-skies-deal-on-air-services/a-46496516

Thanks for that.