Author Topic: The Amazing Coutinho (Read 112553 times)

lorenzo23 · « **Reply #640 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:18:03 pm »

Really needs to be playing AM and not LW.

Crouch Potato · « **Reply #641 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:21:19 pm »

Was one of his weakest games today, but at least most of the others had a stormer.

rscanderlech · « **Reply #642 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:24:44 pm »

He has struggled in the last couple of games. He seems to be rushing his decision making a bit. Probably an experience thing.

Motty · « **Reply #643 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:27:30 pm »

Looked off the pace a bit the last 3 games he's been in
Needs to start at AM to get the best out of him as I think he's getting a bit mixed up switching positions

The Gigi · « **Reply #644 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:28:15 pm »

Quote from: rscanderlech on September 1, 2013, 04:24:44 pm

He has struggled in the last couple of games. He seems to be rushing his decision making a bit. Probably an experience thing.

I think the fact that he plays on the wing has a lot to do with his performances. I think he is much much better in the N°10 role, and I would be happy if we get Moses because we would have the opportunity to give him the N°10 role.

I'm not worried, he is a fantastic talent and he'll show us how good he is in the games to come just as he did last season.

Wesley Pipes · « **Reply #645 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:29:56 pm »

Started really well I thought but went off the boil with a couple of harsh challenges.

lucas65 · « **Reply #646 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:39:31 pm »

He took a bad knock after he danced around Giggs and made him look like a traffic cone.

farawayred · « **Reply #647 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:44:31 pm »

Quote from: lucas65 on September 1, 2013, 04:39:31 pm

He took a bad knock after he danced around Giggs and made him look like a traffic cone.

Around Giggs, Giggs... I just want to repeat that. I know that's not the Giggs of young when he was in a league of his own, but still.

Sinos · « **Reply #648 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:48:03 pm »

He had a good game today because his tireless movement stopped Cleverly building any attacking momentum.

God's Left Peg · « **Reply #649 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:48:23 pm »

He gets tired, doesn't he? Lots of reasons for this, and we have to remember how young he is - he needs protection and, dare I say it, resting from time to time.

Filler. · « **Reply #650 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:50:50 pm »

One of the most important things you need in a good side, is having a team that can win games with one of your most effective and important players having a bit of a duff one.

Chakan · « **Reply #651 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:51:24 pm »

This lad is going to be something special. He is getting clattered left and right though. We really need to protect him a bit better. My one issue is his ball retention, he needs to pass it a bit quicker. But being only 21 he'll come into his own. Not the best game from him today but still head and shoulders above a lot of other premier league middle men.

Inter must be kicking themselves.

007.lankyguy · « **Reply #652 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:52:15 pm »

In the first half he was good, dribbling was brilliant and got plenty of space every time he drifted inside between the lines. In the second half he struggled to get into it and when he was moved inside, he played too much like a forward rather than an orchestrating number ten that you would want, even on the counter.

Prefer him to Aspas inside. We lose fluidity in possession when Aspas has the ball between the lines, certainly compared to Coutinho.

killer-heels · « **Reply #653 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:52:49 pm »

Quote from: Chakan on September 1, 2013, 04:51:24 pm

This lad is going to be something special. He is getting clattered left and right though. We really need to protect him a bit better. My one issue is his ball retention, he needs to pass it a bit quicker. But being only 21 he'll come into his own. Not the best game from him today but still head and shoulders above a lot of other premier league middle men.

Inter must be kicking themselves.

A few Suarez rollockings and he will certainly be passing the ball earlier.

careful on these streets, I've heard stories · « **Reply #654 on:** September 1, 2013, 04:58:59 pm »

Opposition paying alot more attention to him now, I'm sure he'll get settled really soon and even more so with Suarez due back

Danny_ · « **Reply #655 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:00:00 pm »

He's being targeted for the some 'treatment' from defenders because they know he's maybe our biggest creative threat. When Suarez gets back, it will be better as they will have two huge threats to worry about (obviously, talking about creative here - Sturridge is also a massive threat for them). I don't think Aspas has done enough to keep Suarez on the bench. Even a half-fit Suarez is better. He'll go straight back into the team once the suspension is up.

spider-neil · « **Reply #656 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:00:21 pm »

Struggling a bit in a wide area. I think Moses will help to move Coutinho inside but at the expense of Henderson dropping out of the team.

jason42 · « **Reply #657 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:08:01 pm »

Quote from: Wesley Pipes on September 1, 2013, 04:29:56 pm

Started really well I thought but went off the boil with a couple of harsh challenges.

That seems to be the only way teams can deal with him - kick fuck out of the lad. He needs more protection.....

Wasn't his best game today, but given we had scored so early, I didn't think we would be attacking too wildly and he didn't have a load of time on the ball or a lot of the support that is usually around him.

Pinky_Bieber · « **Reply #658 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:11:14 pm »

Quote from: Filler. on September 1, 2013, 04:50:50 pm

One of the most important things you need in a good side, is having a team that can win games with one of your most effective and important players having a bit of a duff one.

well said

Camarero25 · « **Reply #659 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:14:39 pm »

Quote from: spider-neil on September 1, 2013, 05:00:21 pm

Struggling a bit in a wide area. I think Moses will help to move Coutinho inside but at the expense of Henderson dropping out of the team.

Nah, I reckon Aspas will drop out before Hendo.

Danny_ · « **Reply #660 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:17:49 pm »

Quote from: Camarero25 on September 1, 2013, 05:14:39 pm

Nah, I reckon Aspas will drop out before Hendo.

It depends on where we play Suarez. If we play him on the right, then that is Hendo's place gone. If he's behind Sturridge, then it's Aspas.

JustDan · « **Reply #661 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:17:54 pm »

Says a lot when one of our most consistently brilliant players, who we've already started to rely on quite a bit, has an average game against Man U yet we still come away with the result.
The players and the manager, everyone talks about the emphasis on the 'team' rather than just one player, and it's showing already.
Wasn't long ago when it was all down to one or two star players to do it all themselves in a lot of games.
Loving what I'm seeing so far, long may it continue

jason42 · « **Reply #662 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:20:32 pm »

Quote from: Danny_ on September 1, 2013, 05:17:49 pm

It depends on where we play Suarez. If we play him on the right, then that is Hendo's place gone. If he's behind Sturridge, then it's Aspas.

Who?

If we carry on as we are, Suarez is going to have work fucking hard to force his way back into the team. More so when you consider all of the bollocks this summer....

GerrardRock2 · « **Reply #663 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:23:12 pm »

Quote from: lucas65 on September 1, 2013, 04:39:31 pm

He took a bad knock after he danced around Giggs and made him look like a traffic cone.

Gramps should have been sent off for that, it was a cowardly shit challenge, the football tackling equivalent of fucking your sister-in-law.

B0151? · « **Reply #664 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:23:14 pm »

Quote from: Danny_ on September 1, 2013, 05:17:49 pm

It depends on where we play Suarez. If we play him on the right, then that is Hendo's place gone. If he's behind Sturridge, then it's Aspas.

It seems like we bought Aspas to fill the Suarez role so won't have to change the system too much when Luis eventually makes his return (and other times he's unavailable). That will be our main formation I think, unless Moses becomes undroppable. I'm sure there'll be a few games in which we play Coutinho no. 10 though, Suarez going to the left/right then maybe.

Arcadian · « **Reply #665 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:30:05 pm »

It's blatantly obvious teams are going to be under orders not to give wee Phil a yard of space. He's mobbed when he's on the ball and I think this season is going to be tough for him unless we can sort out some protection or he figures out how to use it to our advantage.

Luis will be back soon and there's only so much man marking that can be done without the opposition opening up space.

Filler. · « **Reply #666 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:37:09 pm »

Quote from: Danny_ on September 1, 2013, 05:17:49 pm

It depends on where we play Suarez. If we play him on the right, then that is Hendo's place gone. If he's behind Sturridge, then it's Aspas.

Quote from: Bakez0151 on September 1, 2013, 05:23:14 pm

It seems like we bought Aspas to fill the Suarez role so won't have to change the system too much when Luis eventually makes his return (and other times he's unavailable). That will be our main formation I think, unless Moses becomes undroppable. I'm sure there'll be a few games in which we play Coutinho no. 10 though, Suarez going to the left/right then maybe.

I don't think Aspas fills the Suarez role at all. Nobody can fill in for Suarez. I think we'll have a front three of Suarez Sturridge and Moses more often than not during the autumn, with Coutino or Henderson in behind.

It won't be anything rigid - I think we'll go for a shape or an idea for 9 outfield players and then drop Suarez in there.

b_joseph · « **Reply #667 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:37:30 pm »

Quote from: jason42 on September 1, 2013, 05:20:32 pm

Who?
If we carry on as we are, Suarez is going to have work fucking hard to force his way back into the team. More so when you consider all of the bollocks this summer....

Not a chance..or margin of error has been tiny so far. Having Suarez on the pitch is going to be a massive help for us when killing off a game.
I mean, he is our best player and all that.

The style we have played in 2nd half's haven't suited Coutinho. So it isn't a surprise that he hasn't had great impacts in them or completed the 90.
I think we all have to remember that he is still developing as well. Suarez back will allows us to use him off the bench every now and then.

LFC when it suits · « **Reply #668 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:46:04 pm »

Quote from: jason42 on September 1, 2013, 05:20:32 pm

Who?
If we carry on as we are, Suarez is going to have work fucking hard to force his way back into the team. More so when you consider all of the bollocks this summer....

This.

We have now earned 22 points from a possible 24 without Suarez in the league under Rodgers. It's quite clear that we don't really miss him and actually excel without him.

b_joseph · « **Reply #669 on:** September 1, 2013, 05:56:39 pm »

Quote from: LFC_4_a_while on September 1, 2013, 05:46:04 pm

This.

We have now earned 22 points from a possible 24 without Suarez in the league under Rodgers. It's quite clear that we don't really miss him and actually excel without him.

Correlation isn't causation. A few years back, we had a great record without Stevie..ofcourse some would say we were better without him but come on, really.

Over the course of a season, we will need him in a big way. And there is nothing wrong with that, it's what he is paid to be.

Passmaster Molby · « **Reply #670 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:07:00 pm »

Typical fucking alehouse tactics from Moyes - make sure you give the wee playmaker a good kicking. Did ok today but not one of his best, however he will have much better days in terms of his personal performance.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #671 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:09:24 pm »

He can't always be magical but it's important to work just as hard and he deffo did that today. Closed down, harried, tracked back. Happy with him I am.

Anonymous5 · « **Reply #672 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:22:18 pm »

People need to relax. We'll see the best of him once he moves into central position. Plus he looks tired IMO.

Prof · « **Reply #673 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:22:25 pm »

I wouldn't read too much into his performance today. It was quite clear that the longer the game went on, the less we were going to commit bodies to attack. He is a player who thrives from having options on the ball. Today he didn't have many very often.

This was a game for him to retain possession and draw fouls. He did this reasonably well. Sturridge did this brilliantly.

If we had more physical options on the bench, they would have been used earlier. Moses would have suited this game.

Stockholm Syndrome · « **Reply #674 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:31:50 pm »

I mentioned this in the Aspas thread, but I'll say it here as well; today wasn't his type of game. We played Counter attacking football a lot of the time, and we had Coutinho up forward for the counter (due to lack of forward numbers to start tbf) instead of in the midfield spraying ball forward for players to hit on the counter. Coutinho thrives on having options to pass long to (how we will play counter attacking football in the future when we have more options with Moses and Suarez coming back), or on having close options in the final 3rd for little dinking through balls or one two's (how we play most of the time). Today just wasn't his type of day to perform the magic he usually produces. Not that he was bad today like, just not as good as he can be.

Geezer08 · « **Reply #675 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:36:54 pm »

Decent game today.. Gave the ball away too much though, and his decision making needs to be better if he is to play central. But he is only 21, so have a lot time to develop

saoirse08 · « **Reply #676 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:37:07 pm »

Quote from: Passmaster Molby on September 1, 2013, 06:07:00 pm

Typical fucking alehouse tactics from Moyes - make sure you give the wee playmaker a good kicking. Did ok today but not one of his best, however he will have much better days in terms of his personal performance.

Think Moyes took Philippe's bewilderment as to who the fuck he is was before he joined United a wee bit too personal.

Il Capitano · « **Reply #677 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:41:36 pm »

He isn't having a massive impact because we're playing tight, defensive, very physical games where he's surrounded by two or three opposition defenders every time he receives the ball. He's part of a winning team and that is what is important, his output will get better later on in the season when the league has settled down.

Advil · « **Reply #678 on:** September 1, 2013, 06:46:15 pm »

What I like about him is even though he is small and he is brutally tackled, he will just get up and try again. Play without fear, Downing would have been a star if he had that type of attitude.

Gaz123456 · « **Reply #679 on:** September 1, 2013, 08:02:11 pm »

Struggling a bit so far this season, but he's still working his socks off and I'm sure that he will soon have a very big impact. Talent will always cone through.