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mobydick · « **Reply #19800 on:** May 18, 2024, 04:55:37 pm »

Quote from: DangerScouse on May 18, 2024, 04:53:25 pm

Some escape for Union Berlin. Volland will be a very happy camper!!

Never understood why he left Leverkusen, was a good player. Maybe something behind the doors. Bet he wish he’d stayed.

MonsLibpool · « **Reply #19801 on:** May 18, 2024, 04:57:45 pm »

Doing it in one season is so difficult.

stara · « **Reply #19802 on:** May 18, 2024, 04:58:10 pm »

UB saved saved by a whisker and my national team's goalkeeper lifting a throphy.

DarkOfTheManatee · « **Reply #19803 on:** May 18, 2024, 04:58:46 pm »

Great last day with Union Berlin surviving, Stuttgart pipping Bayern and Leverkusen getting the unbeaten league season.

Statto Red · « **Reply #19804 on:** May 18, 2024, 06:50:48 pm »

Quote from: DarkOfTheManatee on May 18, 2024, 04:58:46 pm

Great last day with Union Berlin surviving, Stuttgart pipping Bayern and Leverkusen getting the unbeaten league season.

That's bonkers & very Spurs that Bayern [with Kane & Dier] end up 3rd in a 2 horse race.

Great achievement for Leverkusen going unbeaten, 2 more matches though.

WorldChampions · « **Reply #19805 on:** May 18, 2024, 08:37:16 pm »

Quote from: Statto Red on May 18, 2024, 06:50:48 pm

That's bonkers & very Spurs that Bayern [with Kane & Dier] end up 3rd in a 2 horse race.

Great achievement for Leverkusen going unbeaten, 2 more matches though.

Third in a one horse race

Fromola · « **Reply #19806 on:** May 18, 2024, 08:40:53 pm »

I think that's Heidenheim in Europe next season if Leverkusen win the German Cup

afc tukrish · « **Reply #19807 on:** May 18, 2024, 09:37:39 pm »

Quote from: Fromola on May 18, 2024, 08:40:53 pm

I think that's Heidenheim in Europe next season if Leverkusen win the German Cup

Absolutely love that if it happens... Frank Schmidt is a genius...

Illmatic · « **Reply #19808 on:** May 18, 2024, 09:37:51 pm »

Quote from: oojason on May 18, 2024, 03:55:33 pm

Technically a season...

A staggering achievement that! I'm surprised how little it gets talked about. Im pretty sure its the most consistent run of performance and results we have seen in English top flight football history.

Clint Eastwood · « **Reply #19809 on:** May 18, 2024, 09:52:53 pm »

If Leverkusen win the treble unbeaten, that has to be the greatest footballing achievement by a side/manager in a single season, hasn’t it?

Leicester winning the league with 81 points in a season where only one other side got over 70 doesn’t come close in my opinion.

Fromola · « **Reply #19810 on:** May 18, 2024, 10:33:39 pm »

Quote from: Clint Eastwood on May 18, 2024, 09:52:53 pm

If Leverkusen win the treble unbeaten, that has to be the greatest footballing achievement by a side/manager in a single season, hasn’t it?

Leicester winning the league with 81 points in a season where only one other side got over 70 doesn’t come close in my opinion.

A club going unbeaten in a full season has never happened before when they've got European football.

It happened once in England (Preston in 1889 - obviously pre-European competition and far fewer games).

Bread · « **Reply #19811 on:** May 19, 2024, 10:30:49 am »

Got to feel a tad bad for Stuttgart really. I bet if you told their fans at the start of the season that they'd finish above Bayern Munich, they'd have assumed that they'd win the title. They'll no doubt be buzzing about their achievements regardless, but maybe a tad unfortunate that the (presumably) one season where they overachieve is the same season that Leverkusen go on a mad one.

CortexVortex · « **Reply #19812 on:** May 19, 2024, 10:31:56 am »

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wvHyGrXM5IE

Great scenes in Leverkusen. Xabi celebrating with the Ultras is just great to see.

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #19813 on:** May 19, 2024, 10:45:20 am »

Quote from: CortexVortex on May 19, 2024, 10:31:56 am

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wvHyGrXM5IE

Great scenes in Leverkusen. Xabi celebrating with the Ultras is just great to see.

Giving them their first title in their 119 year history. And in that fashion. Amazing.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #19814 on:** May 19, 2024, 11:10:51 am »

Worth mentioning that not only were they unbeaten, their points per game is equivalent to more than a 100 point season if it was played across 38 games.

If they win the next two, the sleight against them will be that they weren’t in the Champions League. They’ll be very revved up for the Super Cup I reckon.

Fromola · « **Reply #19815 on:** May 19, 2024, 11:31:17 am »

Quote from: mikey_LFC on May 19, 2024, 11:10:51 am

Worth mentioning that not only were they unbeaten, their points per game is equivalent to more than a 100 point season if it was played across 38 games.

If they win the next two, the sleight against them will be that they weren’t in the Champions League. They’ll be very revved up for the Super Cup I reckon.

Although, lo and behold, Bayern got 90 ad 91 in successive seasons in 2013 and 2014 (Leverkusen got 90 with a weaker goal difference).

It's one record in Germany Bayern haven't got though, as they haven't gone unbeaten a whole league season.

Considering everything Leverkusen have achieved in terms of an unbeaten league season and the title, in their entire history they'd only won one German Cup and a UEFA Cup. They can even equal that next week.

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #19816 on:** May 19, 2024, 11:35:03 am »

Quote from: mikey_LFC on May 19, 2024, 11:10:51 am

Worth mentioning that not only were they unbeaten, their points per game is equivalent to more than a 100 point season if it was played across 38 games.

If they win the next two, the sleight against them will be that they weren’t in the Champions League. They’ll be very revved up for the Super Cup I reckon.

It will be 57 games in all comps. That's a pretty intense number of matches.

Hopefully they won't suffer the fatigue we hit the year after our Quad attempt. Mind you, if they win the next two trophies they'll be starting on a high.

Fromola · « **Reply #19817 on:** May 19, 2024, 11:43:39 am »

Quote from: mikey_LFC on May 19, 2024, 11:10:51 am

Worth mentioning that not only were they unbeaten, their points per game is equivalent to more than a 100 point season if it was played across 38 games.

If they win the next two, the sleight against them will be that they weren’t in the Champions League. They’ll be very revved up for the Super Cup I reckon.

I've said all season had they been in the CL this season they could have won it. However, they'd have probably lost a game at some point and could have fallen short against City or Madrid, at least in one of the two legs. Even in Europa they were close to extra time against Roma (and a minute away from losing second leg) and minutes away from getting knocked out to Qarabag of all teams.

If they go a whole season unbeaten and win the Europa League i'd say that tops Bayern's trebles of 2013 and 2020 or City's last year. Barca also won the treble twice in 2009 and 2015 and would have won another one in 2019 but for the Anfield comeback.

Winning the treble has been diluted a lot. Going unbeaten a whole season hasn't been done before with a team in Europe and is less likely to be repeated.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #19818 on:** May 19, 2024, 11:47:26 am »

Quote from: Fromola on May 19, 2024, 11:43:39 am

I've said all season had they been in the CL this season they could have won it. However, they'd have probably lost a game at some point and could have fallen short against City or Madrid. Even in Europa they were close to extra time against Roma (and a minute away from losing second leg) and minutes away from getting knocked out to Qarabag of all teams.

If they go a whole season unbeaten and win the Europa League i'd say that tops Bayern's trebles of 2013 and 2021 or City's last year. Barca also won the treble twice in 2009 and 2015 and would have won another one in 2019 but for the Anfield comeback.

Winning the treble has been diluted a lot. Going unbeaten a whole season hasn't been done before with a team in Europe and is less likely to be repeated.

If you take the context out of it around who is winning the respective trebles, I still think the Champions League trebles are better, despite not being undefeated. With the context of Bayer Leverkusen being the ones doing it, this becomes the bigger achievement, in my opinion.

Fromola · « **Reply #19819 on:** May 19, 2024, 02:54:57 pm »

Quote from: mikey_LFC on May 19, 2024, 11:47:26 am

If you take the context out of it around who is winning the respective trebles, I still think the Champions League trebles are better, despite not being undefeated. With the context of Bayer Leverkusen being the ones doing it, this becomes the bigger achievement, in my opinion.

True, but since the advent of European competition, an unbeaten domestic season hasn't been achieved in any of the top leagues (I know Celtic did it recently in Scotland). Arsenal in 2004 didn't win either of the domestic cups for example. So just the unbeaten domestic season is unique.

Add in full European campaign on top as well.

The treble has been done 5 times just in the last 15 years.

Boston Bosox · « **Reply #19820 on:** **Yesterday** at 06:27:51 pm »

FLORIAN WIRTZ VOTED BUNDESLIGA PLAYER OF THE SEASON 2023/24

https://www.bayer04.de/en-us/news/bayer04/florian-wirtz-voted-bundesliga-player-of-the-season-202324

Boston Bosox · « **Reply #19821 on:** **Yesterday** at 06:30:19 pm »

COMING HOME ON 26 MAY: PARADE THEN CELEBRATIONS IN AND AROUND THE BAYARENA

https://www.bayer04.de/en-us/news/bayer04/coming-home-on-26-may-parade-then-celebrations-in-and-around-the-bayarena

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #19822 on:** **Yesterday** at 09:31:35 pm »

Thomas Frank and Vincent Kompany are now linked with the Bayern job according to Christian Falk. Frank I can understand, but Kompany

stoa · « **Reply #19823 on:** **Yesterday** at 11:03:28 pm »

To be fair, Frank was the first one he mentioned and with Kompany he just seems to have jumped on the bandwagon after Plettigoal and Romano named him. So, my money would be on Frank being a candidate...Also Bild (whom Falk is working for) seem to have mentioned Ange, Poch and Howe as possible candidates. It might as well just be nobody having a clue about what is actually happening except that Bayern are looking at the PL and just mentioning random names.

Tokyoite · « **Reply #19824 on:** **Today** at 02:40:39 am »

Have Bayern been such a shitshow before? Can't remember it being this bad. Glad the decision to sack Nagelsmann is coming back to bite them in the arse. Their arrogant board fully deserves this.

stoa · « **Reply #19825 on:** **Today** at 03:06:04 am »

I think on the higher level this is the most horrible they've been for ages. There's a reason why they're called FC Hollywood and they've had their issues, but most of the time it was players/managers/media causing the troubles and the higher ups basically had to fix the stuff. They didn't always look great either (like when they signed Otto Rehhagel), but in the end they still seemed to be more or less in charge and knew what they wanted (even if it didn't come off like they had planned). From what I can remember this is the first time, the people in charge of the club seem absolutely clueless and are more or less passengers in their search for a new manager.