Topic: Russell Brand accused of rape, sexual assaults and abuse

[Ziltoid]

Mate sent me this last night from author Michael Marshall Smith - don't think he's posted it on here.

https://michaelmarshallsmith.substack.com/p/the-vile-leading-the-lost

[Bioluminescence]

This is true but it isn't just that. Centre-left media outlets like the Guardian tend to present the world as one where men intrinsically mistreat women, are inherently in a position of privilege and need to change everything they do, think and enjoy. That is not realistically going to resonate with most young men, who are socially awkward at that age, have no power in society and see girls holding all the cards when it comes to romance (from their point of view), outperforming them at school and being celebrated in culture simply for being themselves*, while the only time boys are ever spoken about is as a problem. Something that has very much crossed over into popular culture by the way, especially Gen Z culture.

People like Tate succeed because they say outrageous things to get attention and then speak to that feeling of alienation their audience feels. Those young men aren't going to look for understanding from people who tell them they need to stop whining about their problems because everything is the fault of the patriarchy (we're at the point where Andrea Dworkin of all people is being dragged back into the feminist mainstream FFS), and they aren't going to stop watching porn when it's the only access they have to anything sexual.

Ultimately, it makes it incredibly easy to say: "It's not your fault. The feminists hate you. Women hate you. They always will. You can't have a real relationship with them. The only way to get what you want is to dominate them and show them who's boss". The situation is the sexual equivalent of Donald Trump, who most progressives still don't understand because they refuse to even engage with the basic reality of his appeal. It's just a recipe for making everyone miserable.

None of this has anything much to do with Russell Brand, I just thought it was an interesting tangent.

*Even though that notion of being yourself tends to always be tied to consumer goods and selfish individualism, though that's probably a discussion for another time.

There's nothing more alienating for young men than this message. It means no real connection, no respect, no love. It effectively compounds the problem. The whole manosphere is a disaster for younger generations - I remember watching a programme on Channel 4 in which a young man was scared of talking to women because of the way women were portrayed in these groups (manipulative, lying, etc.). It's so grim, and the frustrating thing is that there are great role models out there who somehow get lost in all of this, in part due to algorithms that push more and more extreme content such as on YouTube. Then there's all the porn and the harm that that's causing.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I don't know if you're being deliberately obtuse. You think every interaction between a man and a woman all over the world involves the man having the power? Or that men always mistreat women in relationships? If the answer is no, what are you disagreeing with? I never suggested there isn't a power imbalance in general or that it doesn't need to be corrected.

I don't understand why you named the centre-left media like the Guardian.

But I don't disagree with your main points.

[mattD]

She was 16.

Doesn't matter though does it. It's still creepy and the boundaries between what's legal and what's not doesn't make it right. Doesn't matter if she's 16, its still abuse coercing a young girl like that.

16 year olds know fuck all about the world, they are still essentially children. When I was 16 I knew fuck all, and when I look at 16 year olds today, they are still quite obviously kids. How anyone could have an attraction to that is disturbing.

I hope we never hear of him ever again and his life is destroyed, but I suspect the right wing nutjobs will give him a career, while being backed by his lapdog goons like Noel Gallagher and Jonathan Ross who'll argue he's 'just a naughty boy' to ensure he still has a celebrity profile. Sadly.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Doesn't matter though does it. It's still creepy and the boundaries between what's legal and what's not doesn't make it right. Doesn't matter if she's 16, its still abuse coercing a young girl like that.

16 year olds know fuck all about the world, they are still essentially children. When I was 16 I knew fuck all, and when I look at 16 year olds today, they are still quite obviously kids. How anyone could have an attraction to that is disturbing.

I hope we never hear of him ever again and his life is destroyed, but I suspect the right wing nutjobs will give him a career, while being backed by his lapdog goons like Noel Gallagher and Jonathan Ross who'll argue he's 'just a naughty boy' to ensure he still has a celebrity profile. Sadly.

I agree as would any soon to be room mates

[John C]

Mate sent me this last night from author Michael Marshall Smith - don't think he's posted it on here.

https://michaelmarshallsmith.substack.com/p/the-vile-leading-the-lost

Superb piece of writing.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Mate sent me this last night from author Michael Marshall Smith - don't think he's posted it on here.

https://michaelmarshallsmith.substack.com/p/the-vile-leading-the-lost

Good read that. Reflected just about all my views.

[Rob Dylan]

Yeah you can go all the way back to the 50's & then some.

I think it was just more publicised and celebrated in the media in the 00s than in previous decades, and was presented as a lifestyle that ordinary people could aspire to.

[slotmachine]

This is true but it isn't just that. Centre-left media outlets like the Guardian tend to present the world as one where men intrinsically mistreat women, are inherently in a position of privilege and need to change everything they do, think and enjoy. That is not realistically going to resonate with most young men, who are socially awkward at that age, have no power in society and see girls holding all the cards when it comes to romance (from their point of view), outperforming them at school and being celebrated in culture simply for being themselves*, while the only time boys are ever spoken about is as a problem. Something that has very much crossed over into popular culture by the way, especially Gen Z culture.

People like Tate succeed because they say outrageous things to get attention and then speak to that feeling of alienation their audience feels. Those young men aren't going to look for understanding from people who tell them they need to stop whining about their problems because everything is the fault of the patriarchy (we're at the point where Andrea Dworkin of all people is being dragged back into the feminist mainstream FFS), and they aren't going to stop watching porn when it's the only access they have to anything sexual.

Ultimately, it makes it incredibly easy to say: "It's not your fault. The feminists hate you. Women hate you. They always will. You can't have a real relationship with them. The only way to get what you want is to dominate them and show them who's boss". The situation is the sexual equivalent of Donald Trump, who most progressives still don't understand because they refuse to even engage with the basic reality of his appeal. It's just a recipe for making everyone miserable.

None of this has anything much to do with Russell Brand, I just thought it was an interesting tangent.

*Even though that notion of being yourself tends to always be tied to consumer goods and selfish individualism, though that's probably a discussion for another time.

+1

Superb post that.

These fucking celebrity types and men in power who treat women like this and then it just creates more distrust and fear from women towards men. It just fucks the mating/dating game up even more than it already is. We have men and women isolated and dying of loneliness and a big part i believe in the increase in mental health problems.

I feel all genders are yearning for a connection and the culture has become too tribal to have a honest discourse so people just go to there own little echo chamber on the internet which is were the grifters are making a fortune by telling people what they want to hear.

I didnt watch the Brand doc on Saturday but i read the Times story which someone linked on this thread. It was horrific reading and i didnt have the stomach to watch the Dispatches. I commend the victims for being so brave in coming forward.

[slotmachine]

Mate sent me this last night from author Michael Marshall Smith - don't think he's posted it on here.

https://michaelmarshallsmith.substack.com/p/the-vile-leading-the-lost

Thanks for that. Good piece of writing and i agree with more or less all of it.

[fowlermagic]

There must be a lot of other "laddish" 2000's celebrities shitting themselves this week as well. The culture looks absolutely tragic when you look back on it now.

I think every generation will have to look at their actions further down the road n wonder a little. What was deemed OK in the 50s n 60s was frowned upon, likewise 20 years ago and today's generation will have their time too. I can only imagine how many screen shots will pop up in newspapers over the coming years when the current teenagers become adult celebrities.

I never liked Brand but do wonder how this all didn't crop up during the Me Too posts a couple of years ago.

[Rob Dylan]

I think every generation will have to look at their actions further down the road n wonder a little. What was deemed OK in the 50s n 60s was frowned upon, likewise 20 years ago and today's generation will have their time too. I can only imagine how many screen shots will pop up in newspapers over the coming years when the current teenagers become adult celebrities.

I never liked Brand but do wonder how this all didn't crop up during the Me Too posts a couple of years ago.

Me Too helped some women to speak out but that doesn't mean that every famous / powerful person who's done these things was exposed. The women involved would still have had their own personal reasons for not speaking out, which may have included legal threats. There will be a lot more of these kind of stories about other celebrities, I suspect.

[Filler.]

Superb piece of writing.

The writer forgets that he WAS a 'sexy guy' tho. Come on. He was! An opinion piece that just ignores that Russell Brand WAS sexy. He had long hair and was called Russell and he was up for it and he was gonna challenge everyfink yeah?

edit: Replace WAS for IS

[Elliemental]

I never liked Brand but do wonder how this all didn't crop up during the Me Too posts a couple of years ago.

These allegations have been around since the mid-2000s and Brand's had the alleged victims silenced several times already. I guess that's why it didn't emerge in the main "me too" era.

[Sheer Magnetism]

Yeah, everyone has pretty much said Brand's lawyers were very procative with this kind of thing. The other part people need to keep in mind is that the victims almost certainly didn't know each other and would have probably worked in a similar industry or proximity to him, which is why they met him in the first place.

Basically, you can't underestimate how difficult it is for a victim to come forward in those circumstances. Maybe it was a one time thing and not a pattern of behaviour as far as they know, maybe everyone was drunk/high and the instance it gets to that point his lawyers paint you as a wreckhead who didn't know what was going on. That leads to no one in your industry wanting to hire you anymore - if his lawyers don't follow through on the threat to sue you into destitution.

It may not be by design but it is how the entertainment industry works in practice, and not only entertainment. Look how many MPs are 'under investigation' right now for cases we've heard absolutely nothing about.

[Nick110581]

Yeah, everyone has pretty much said Brand's lawyers were very procative with this kind of thing. The other part people need to keep in mind is that the victims almost certainly didn't know each other and would have probably worked in a similar industry or proximity to him, which is why they met him in the first place.

Basically, you can't underestimate how difficult it is for a victim to come forward in those circumstances. Maybe it was a one time thing and not a pattern of behaviour as far as they know, maybe everyone was drunk/high and the instance it gets to that point his lawyers paint you as a wreckhead who didn't know what was going on. That leads to no one in your industry wanting to hire you anymore - if his lawyers don't follow through on the threat to sue you into destitution.

It may not be by design but it is how the entertainment industry works in practice, and not only entertainment. Look how many MPs are 'under investigation' right now for cases we've heard absolutely nothing about.

He met the 16 year old when she was out shopping and went through her bags rating her purchases.

He then sent taxis to pick her up from school. He was 31 at the time.

Money equals power with these c*nts. Send a a flimsy threat from lawyers and most people back away as they haven’t got the means to fit it.

[Dull Tools]

I think it was just more publicised and celebrated in the media in the 00s than in previous decades, and was presented as a lifestyle that ordinary people could aspire to.

Have you seen what the rock/filmstars of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s were like? Every generation things their problems are worse than the previous generation.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Would be amazed if he ends up behind bars.  Think he'll just be cancelled but nothing will stick if it ever gets as far as court.  These things never seem to.

I think you're right, but the text messages are quite damming

[Rob Dylan]

Have you seen what the rock/filmstars of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s were like? Every generation things their problems are worse than the previous generation.

What I meant was, in that decade it was just more publicised and plastered all over the media and online to an extent that it wasn't previously. And by then it was more than just glamourous rock stars and film stars living that lifestyle, it was all kinds of z-list celebrities, many of whom were just famous for being famous. It was more public and I think more ordinary people felt they could be a part of that lifestyle.

[Nobby Reserve]

Mate sent me this last night from author Michael Marshall Smith - don't think he's posted it on here.

https://michaelmarshallsmith.substack.com/p/the-vile-leading-the-lost

That's genuinely superb in terms of setting it all down in a simple fashion.

Thanks for the link

[Buck Pete]

Not a single article about Brand on the BBC News home page anymore.  They are all gone.  Shit loads there only yesterday.

There's no way this story can be already deemed as 'today's chip paper'.  Is this so as not to prejudice the case, or because one of the corporations that enabled him has now been seen to have done their bit (for 1 day), and is now sweeping it under the carpet?

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Not a single article about Brand on the BBC News home page anymore.  They are all gone.  Shit loads there only yesterday.

There's no way this story can be already deemed as 'today's chip paper'.  Is this so as not to prejudice the case, or because one of the corporations that enabled him has now been seen to have done their bit (for 1 day), and is now sweeping it under the carpet?

It's down to he clicks, whatever is most visited is left on the main page.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66856089

[Andy82lfc]

Not a single article about Brand on the BBC News home page anymore.  They are all gone.  Shit loads there only yesterday.

There's no way this story can be already deemed as 'today's chip paper'.  Is this so as not to prejudice the case, or because one of the corporations that enabled him has now been seen to have done their bit (for 1 day), and is now sweeping it under the carpet?

This one popped up today about Rumble denying to take him down: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66875128

That's all they or any outlet care about though; outrage. They don't give a shiny shit about justice or anything trivial like that, all about the clicks and if they aren't getting them with regular content re-hashing the same stuff they move on. Then the next one will appear when something like this happens again to get people to tut and expel shock and disgust.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

No doubt the sweaty looking prick will claim that because he was open about it, it doesn't count.

As for the BBC 

Russell Brand: Woman says star exposed himself to her then laughed about it on Radio 2 show

A woman has accused Russell Brand of exposing himself to her and then laughing about it minutes later on his BBC radio show.

The woman says it happened in 2008 when she was working in the same building as the BBC in Los Angeles. The encounter left her stunned, she says.

Minutes later, he was recorded laughing with his co-presenter who said Brand "showed his willy to a lady".

Neither Brand nor his co-presenter have replied to requests for comment.

It is the first time that Brand has been accused of sexual misconduct and then heard discussing it.

It also raises serious questions for the BBC about how that part of the show, which was pre-recorded, was allowed to be broadcast days later.

The woman never made a formal complaint. BBC management was informed about the incident in 2019, but no formal action was taken.

In a statement, the BBC said it was sorry to hear the allegations and would investigate them as part of a review into Brand's time at the BBC.

Four other women have also accused Brand, 48, of sexual assaults and rape between 2006 and 2013. He has denied the claims, saying his relationships were "always consensual".

The woman, who we are calling Olivia, worked for a media company in the same building as the BBC's Los Angeles office.

On 16 June 2008, she says she answered the door to Brand and his team, who were there to pre-record an episode of The Russell Brand Show for Radio 2.

She then went to the bathroom to get some sinus medication, walking past the radio studio. While squatting to look through the medicine cabinet, she says she felt someone behind her.

She turned around to face a man's crotch. "I was startled and got up and I realised it was the man that I'd let in - Russell."

In the conversation that followed, she recalls him saying: "Oh, I think you're a bit alright. I think you're a bit of alright." 

She says he told her he was going to call her Betty. When she said that wasn't her name, she says he replied: "Well, I'm gonna fuck you."

"And I said: 'No, you're not.'" 

She says he then pulled out his penis on his hand and "pretty much served it to me as you would be serving someone some food".

She says the door to the bathroom was closed, and she felt trapped.

"There was a bit of banter going on because I didn't know what to do."

Olivia says he then put his penis back in his trousers, and she heard someone banging on the door. She says someone from his team called for him, at which point Brand left.

'I felt disgusted'

Olivia says she returned to her desk in disbelief at what had happened, and texted a BBC employee in the office about it.

He told her that he knew what had happened because Brand was talking about it in the studio.

Following the investigation by The Sunday Times, The Times and Channel 4's Dispatches programme into Brand's alleged behaviour, published earlier this month, Olivia says she tracked down a recording of the programme.

The episode, which aired on 21 June, 2008, features this exchange between Brand and Matt Morgan.

Morgan: It's been 25 minutes since he showed his willy to a lady.

Brand: (Laughing) Very easy to judge! Very easy to judge!

Morgan: The receptionist…

Brand: (Laughing) Look…

Morgan: Receive this!

Morgan adds: "He got told off for ringing a bell, minutes later he's showing his willy." Brand can be heard laughing in the background.

Olivia, who has never worked as a receptionist, says she felt disgusted when she heard it.

"I feel ashamed, but more so I wonder had something been done, perhaps there would have been fewer women he would have done horrible things to, which we're reading about in the papers now."

Olivia never made a complaint but said she had hoped that someone from the BBC would contact her after hearing the recording. That never happened.

"I thought to myself, Oh, that's a bit strange nobody has come to say sorry to me, for his behaviour. So I thought perhaps that particular audio - because it was so graphic - had been cut out, which is probably why I never pursued it."

She says she thought people wouldn't take her seriously: "I am blonde. Accented."

She says she was also worried about the potential impact on her and her family if she had raised it officially.

"Had I known audio existed, I probably would have done something as the incident would have been corroborated," she says.
Shock and disbelief

When she told BBC staff about the story over the years, they would laugh it off, she says.

"We all did. It was shock and like, 'What, did this really happen?'"

In 2019, BBC management was informed about the incident by a BBC staff member who had spoken to Olivia.

She says nobody from BBC management approached her directly about the incident and no formal action was taken.

Olivia says she feels let down by the BBC.

"What allowed that output go out like that? What made the BBC think that was appropriate to go out like that? I just don't understand why they didn't investigate this much sooner.

"And I suspect there's far worse in all those episodes that I can't even stomach to listen to."

The BBC's Director General Tim Davie, who became director of Audio and Music at the BBC a few days after the show was broadcast, has already announced a review of Russell Brand's time at the BBC.

In its statement on this incident, the BBC invited the woman involved to contact them. "We would be very keen to hear from her and anyone else who may have information," it said.

The statement continued: "We will of course speak to the bureau team and anyone who was working there in 2008 as part of this."

"Further, the Director General has been very clear that some broadcasts from that period were, and are, inexcusable and totally unacceptable, and would never be aired today," it added.

Brand resigned from the BBC in October 2008 after he and presenter Jonathan Ross left obscene voicemail messages for Fawlty Towers actor Andrew Sachs about Brand's sexual relationship with Sachs' granddaughter.

Olivia says she told her family about the incident last weekend.

"My sister said to me: 'Why didn't you kick him in the nuts and drop elbow him?'"

"I couldn't have done that. What I needed to do was get out of that bathroom in one piece, which I did."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66882644

[Millie]

Fair enough. I should read the article before running my mouth off - old habits die hard. There will be the sound of backtracking a wee bit here as I just assumed (ass+u+me etc) that he just flashed his bits like an idiot - and not doing what he did 'handing it on a plate for her etc... '... I mean it's just a trashy thing to do - and in keeping with who he is. But equally... the article gives the reader a warning that people could be upset by the story... really? Sure it's a dick move, especially as she was on her own, but.. I dunno...just feels a bit overly dramatic?

It's not over dramatic at all - I was travelling home from Liverpool one evening on the train, some years ago, and the bloke opposite me exposed himself.   I can assure you that it wasn't a laugh and was traumatic for me. 

Seriously I just don't think you blokes understand.

[rob1966]

It's not over dramatic at all - I was travelling home from Liverpool one evening on the train, some years ago, and the bloke opposite me exposed himself.   I can assure you that it wasn't a laugh and was traumatic for me. 

Seriously I just don't think you blokes understand.

It's not hard to understand that a man exposing himself to a woman can be quite a threatening act, you don't know if that is as far as he will take it, or of ots the start of an assault. I don't get at all why some men laugh it off or take it lightly.

[Black Bull Nova]

Well, as long as I can remember I thought he was a prick and could not understand why people thought him funny/worth the time. In the same way I remember feeling Saville was a weirdo I always felt Brand was as well. It's not special insight at all but I think some people with ego and confidence can attract a strange sort of interest and any critical eye can be lost. None of this week has surprised me at all. Self-serving prick and all round fucking creep. What I don't get is those around him who knew more, they are guilty (not equally) but nevertheless guilty.

There are others I feel the same about but then that's just instinct, sometimes the truth emerges but I also could be very wrong.

[The_Nomad]

Why do some of us men actually think that showing their genitalia to a (usually)relatively less ‘powerful’ woman increases their sexual desirability? From an anthropological and animal kingdom perspective, is it somewhat equivalent to males displaying the size of their horns? Perhaps it’s no coincidence that the men who do engage in such behaviour are also usually people who are considered ‘powerful’ in society and therefore ‘better able’ to sire and protect their progeny.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Perhaps it’s no coincidence that the men who do engage in such behaviour are also usually people who are considered ‘powerful’ in society and therefore ‘better able’ to sire and protect their progeny.

It's a theory I guess, but have you seen the state of most flashers. If anything the guys best equipped to sire and protect their loved ones are the guys who'd beat the shit out of any flasher, were they about at the time.

People flash their cocks because they're fucking weirdos, no other reason.

[rowan_d]

Thought at the time when they talked about it on the radio show that it was either exaggerated, or assumed that there'd have been some semblance of consent. If I'd heard the story for the first time today, it'd immediately remind me of Louis CK in a way that it never has even when I've listened to it since CK's behaviour has come to light somehow.

In hindsight it's pretty crazy how stuff like that could be obscured and overlooked due to the light-hearted approach to the discussion, casual brashness of it, and pre-MeToo environment. While I always felt talk of his sexual exploits was by far the least interesting part of the radio shows, maybe I just didn't want to see him for what he was and is.

[Bioluminescence]

It's not over dramatic at all - I was travelling home from Liverpool one evening on the train, some years ago, and the bloke opposite me exposed himself.   I can assure you that it wasn't a laugh and was traumatic for me. 

Seriously I just don't think you blokes understand.

The problem is that it's part of a pattern of behaviours that women are subjected it, and we never know whether things will escalate if we don't react in an "acceptable" way. Also flashing can lead to more serious crimes when perpetrators become emboldened by not getting caught. Wayne Couzens got away with repeated flashing, in some cases days, before he raped and murdered Sarah Everard.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

It's not over dramatic at all - I was travelling home from Liverpool one evening on the train, some years ago, and the bloke opposite me exposed himself.   I can assure you that it wasn't a laugh and was traumatic for me. 

Seriously I just don't think you blokes understand.

The majority of us do Millie.

[thejbs]

It's not hard to understand that a man exposing himself to a woman can be quite a threatening act, you don't know if that is as far as he will take it, or of ots the start of an assault. I don't get at all why some men laugh it off or take it lightly.

My mum and sister had a guy expose himself and then ejaculate in the direction of them and two other women on the London Underground. They were completely traumatised by it.

[rob1966]

Well, as long as I can remember I thought he was a prick and could not understand why people thought him funny/worth the time. In the same way I remember feeling Saville was a weirdo I always felt Brand was as well. It's not special insight at all but I think some people with ego and confidence can attract a strange sort of interest and any critical eye can be lost. None of this week has surprised me at all. Self-serving prick and all round fucking creep. What I don't get is those around him who knew more, they are guilty (not equally) but nevertheless guilty.

There are others I feel the same about but then that's just instinct, sometimes the truth emerges but I also could be very wrong.

I sad on here last week I've always found him repulsive, there's just something about him, the way he looks, the way he acts, that makes me despise him. I never got what women saw in him, he's fucking vile.

I saw the way he was talking about women on Dispatches and his words about wearing women down until they give in and have sex with him, brought to mind the song Sex Type Thing by Stone Temple Pilots and the words of the rapist in the song  (Scott Weiland wrote it after his G/f was raped by 3 men)

I am, I am, I am
I said, I wanna get next to you
I said, I'm gonna get close to you
You wouldn't want me have to hurt you too, hurt you too?

I know you want what's on my mind
I know you like what's on my mind
I know it eats you up inside
I know you know, you know, you know
I know you want what's on my mind
I know you like what's on my mind
I know it eats you up inside
I know you know, you know, you know

[rob1966]

My mum and sister had a guy expose himself and then ejaculate in the direction of them and two other women on the London Underground. They were completely traumatised by it.

I'm not surprised, I'd fucking batter any fella I saw doing that.

[Red-Soldier]

I've always though he was a bit of a sleazeball.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I'm not surprised, I'd fucking batter any fella I saw doing that.

Send him to the 3rd rail.

[TepidT2O]

Thought at the time when they talked about it on the radio show that it was either exaggerated, or assumed that there'd have been some semblance of consent. If I'd heard the story for the first time today, it'd immediately remind me of Louis CK in a way that it never has even when I've listened to it since CK's behaviour has come to light somehow.

In hindsight it's pretty crazy how stuff like that could be obscured and overlooked due to the light-hearted approach to the discussion, casual brashness of it, and pre-MeToo environment. While I always felt talk of his sexual exploits was by far the least interesting part of the radio shows, maybe I just didn't want to see him for what he was and is.

Most comedy acts greatly exaggerate or totally make stuff up for laughs….often casting them selves in a poor light by this hyperbole ….Sadly this turns out not to have been the case..it Al appears to have been true

[Statto Red]

I've never liked Brand, & that was long before the prank phone call on his BBC radio show, which ended with him resigning from the BBC a few days after that.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

BBC have the audio up, not listened to it as like Trump, I cannot stand the c*nts voice.