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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14280 on: May 10, 2024, 03:14:39 pm »
Hyperbole much? No-one has said Trent cannot defend, the discussion (without resorting to you're a utd fan insults) is why he's stopped defending. If you want to argue he's not fair enough, but I think he is a much worse defender now than he used to be, again as stated before I don't know if thats tactical or personal but on the tactical side I think it's crazy to have both Trent and Salah with minimal defensive duties.

The key part is Bradley, being asked to do the exact same role as Trent (maybe less long balls) has been a far better defender.

It's a really strange situation because a few years ago when the the public (mainly around England call ups) statements he couldn't defend came out, it was with a great irony as that was utter rubbish, he was a good defender at that point, yet since then he's got worse (in my humble opinion). When we played 433 Trent and Robbo were the best all round fullbacks in the world.

Bradley is just probably a better defender though. Seems quicker over short distances so is able to keep up with wingers. He looks like your classic well rounded full back who is quality at both sides of the game.

Going forward there is no-one like Trent though. That's why you want to be giving him the protection he needs, to let him create from that space. Playmaker at full back, we need to be harnessing that.


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14281 on: May 10, 2024, 03:27:27 pm »
The Trent in midfield argument always comes down to why Klopp and Lijnders haven't gone all in and moved him there.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14282 on: May 10, 2024, 03:38:14 pm »
The Trent in midfield argument always comes down to why Klopp and Lijnders haven't gone all in and moved him there.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14283 on: May 10, 2024, 04:13:15 pm »
The Trent in midfield argument always comes down to why Klopp and Lijnders haven't gone all in and moved him there.

He’s a world class right back, has been for 5-6 years now, having the position sorted has meant we haven’t had to recruit a right back and can invest resources into other areas of the field. It gives us a ridiculous advantage having so much offensive firepower from that position and, when the tactics are right, we can get him operating in that right midfield area which has been by far his most dangerous area, usually in space with the game in front of him rather than on the turn.

It’s not abnormal for a player to change position, though, Phillip Lahm was the best full back in the world and was a world class midfielder too, Kimmich similar, Fabinho went from defence to midfield, Pirlo was a 10 who became a deep lying playmaker, you can go on and on. Now we have a viable alternative in Bradley, I don’t see why we can’t stick Trent in centrally and at least try him there and see how it goes. I actually think Jurgen will have tried it this season, unfortunately neither Trent or Conor have been fit at the same time, such is life…

Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14284 on: May 10, 2024, 08:07:48 pm »
One thing, though: when Gomez played as LB and inverted, he always found himself around the left-sided CM position but didn't have the vision or technique to shoot or play incisive passes. I think if that were Trent, he would have done more with that opportunity. So maybe playing him as an inverted LB next season and Bradley as RB, allowing Salah to play narrow, could work.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14285 on: May 10, 2024, 09:54:59 pm »
One of the most interesting tactical questions with Slot will be how he will use Trent
I will be very curious when the season starts

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14286 on: May 14, 2024, 12:29:35 pm »
Thought Trent played like someone who now feels right back isn't his position, interesting to see what Slot thinks he is.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14287 on: May 14, 2024, 12:52:23 pm »
Thought Trent played like someone who now feels right back isn't his position, interesting to see what Slot thinks he is.

I thought that as well as I found myself shouting "get yerself back in at right back" where you've given your best performances under Klopp, making goals, switching play and stretching the opposition.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14288 on: May 14, 2024, 01:32:50 pm »
I would understand wanting to keep Trent at right back before but in Bradley we have a total baller waiting in the wings to take that position. We don't have anyone as good as Trent on the ball in midfield. Even Mac doesn't have Trent's passing range.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14289 on: May 14, 2024, 01:34:45 pm »
I would understand wanting to keep Trent at right back before but in Bradley we have a total baller waiting in the wings to take that position. We don't have anyone as good as Trent on the ball in midfield. Even Mac doesn't have Trent's passing range.

Competition for places then, two players for every position and all that.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14290 on: May 14, 2024, 08:43:11 pm »
I would understand wanting to keep Trent at right back before but in Bradley we have a total baller waiting in the wings to take that position. We don't have anyone as good as Trent on the ball in midfield. Even Mac doesn't have Trent's passing range.
Competition for places then, two players for every position and all that.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14291 on: Yesterday at 02:43:57 pm »
“This morning Trent's mum was here, she wanted to say thank you and goodbye. She told me what she thought when Brendan left and I came in. They told her before when your boy is that age you need an English manager because other managers don't look at the academy. She was really worried. How that all worked out was a beautiful story.”

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14292 on: Yesterday at 02:54:34 pm »
When the fuck are all these million technical directors going to put a contract in front of this guy?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14293 on: Yesterday at 02:58:47 pm »
Trent closer to the goal for me. Slot's team don't play so many long balls. Though balls, crosses and screamers.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14294 on: Yesterday at 03:27:55 pm »
When the fuck are all these million technical directors going to put a contract in front of this guy?
Maybe they already have, why would they tell us? Why not flip the question around and question why our vice-captain (or Captain for that matter) hasn't committed to the club?

It is fairly obvious that talks will have gone on between the club and his representatives but they have not reached any sort of agreement on a number of things whether that be money, contract length or even whether Trent wants to commit long term or not.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14295 on: Yesterday at 03:29:23 pm »
I am not convinced he wants to sign a new contract.
Real Madrid has a big hole to fill when Carvajal leaves and they love a free transfer on big wages.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14296 on: Yesterday at 03:37:26 pm »
I am not convinced he wants to sign a new contract.
Real Madrid has a big hole to fill when Carvajal leaves and they love a free transfer on big wages.

Possibly, but it would be an utter disaster. Our only world class player under 30 and to lose him would be a disaster,

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14297 on: Yesterday at 03:37:45 pm »
Maybe they already have, why would they tell us? Why not flip the question around and question why our vice-captain (or Captain for that matter) hasn't committed to the club?

It is fairly obvious that talks will have gone on between the club and his representatives but they have not reached any sort of agreement on a number of things whether that be money, contract length or even whether Trent wants to commit long term or not.

That will mean us being a bit fucked.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14298 on: Yesterday at 03:43:29 pm »
Possibly, but it would be an utter disaster. Our only world class player under 30 and to lose him would be a disaster,

We'd live, we have Bradley who has shown lots of promise.

I feel for Trent it would be a mistake as he has the opportunity to become woven forever into the fabric of his home town club, he need only look at the likes of Stevie to know what that looks like. At Madrid he'll just be another number.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14299 on: Yesterday at 03:48:26 pm »
We'd live, we have Bradley who has shown lots of promise.

I feel for Trent it would be a mistake as he has the opportunity to become woven forever into the fabric of his home town club, he need only look at the likes of Stevie to know what that looks like. At Madrid he'll just be another number.

We would live but we have lost so much talent in the past few seasons and havent replaced them with players as good and it wont be long until we lose some more. Feel like if we lose talents like Trent, Salah then we are further drifting away from Arsenal and City.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #14300 on: Yesterday at 03:57:06 pm »
We would live but we have lost so much talent in the past few seasons and havent replaced them with players as good and it wont be long until we lose some more. Feel like if we lose talents like Trent, Salah then we are further drifting away from Arsenal and City.

Oh i totally agree mate - we need to add to what we have in certain spaces whilst keeping the best of the next generation.

At the end of the day, the player will decide - and if he is of the mindset he wants to be elsewhere, well he's not the future for us.