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Really, the defence needs to wake the fxxk up. Do we really need to continue to score 3, 4 goals before we can win games?

I don’t think the issue was just the personnel in defence.

Midfield lost its shape plus we seemed to lose the ability to press Spurs effectively.

Feels like systemic issues rather than necessarily just the defenders.
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We score enough, we concede to many.

The switch off at 4-0 proves that.

To be fair we usually switch off at 0-0 so it's a huge improvement.

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A few players went straight down the tunnel at the final whistle today.

Maybe a quiet word from the captain is in order.

Some of those players who headed straight down the tunnel have had unwavering support from the crowd. Whatever frustration you have with performance or grievance you have with the manager I think you should show your appreciation for the crowd at the end of a game.
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which players went straight down the tunnel? Didn't see

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Funny what not having a midweek fixture can do. We had more juice in the batteries.
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I don’t think the issue was just the personnel in defence.

Midfield lost its shape plus we seemed to lose the ability to press Spurs effectively.

Feels like systemic issues rather than necessarily just the defenders.

It wasn't about the defence. Bajcetic comes on as DM and was well off the pace, Spurs make 3 attacking changes but we persist with the highline. Therefore a couple of passes and they're clean through (loads of times). It took some last ditch defending to stop it going 4-3 and then more panic stations.

We could have afforded to switch off like we did if we just shut the game down. You can't do that with a DM miles off the pace and a high defensive line against a fast attack. The systemic issues are we can't shut a game down. The two Old Trafford games the obvious examples.

Today it doesn't matter but it's cost us in other games. Even last season we  blew a 3 goal lead against these. We need to adapt properly to conceding goals.
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Thought this game was a good representation of our season really. Play well for large parts, but we lost control and took a while for us to really take the sting out of the game. I think this problem is systematic though, rather than with personnel. That press was so off for large parts after we made the subs and then we overplayed a times.

There's plenty to be proud about of this season, but few areas where can massively improve too. And let's not forget the injuries this season which totally destroyed our momentum. City and Arsenal both got incredibly soft penalty decisions yesterday too to break the deadlocks - that sort of luck has deserted us for large parts this season. Not to make this a moan, but you need a lot of luck to win league titles too and not sure we've had much this season.

Thought Mo was back to his best today, but you can really tell he's lost that massive burst of pace he used to have.

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I don’t think the issue was just the personnel in defence.

Midfield lost its shape plus we seemed to lose the ability to press Spurs effectively.

Feels like systemic issues rather than necessarily just the defenders.

Looked like we went back to Trent inverting and they then exploited the space.

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Obviously delighted with the win and all that, but I thought the midfield subs were a bit naive. Of course, I have no business calling Klopp naive, but still...

We went narrow to push Spurs out wide where they are less dangerous, and knowing that our superior midfield would keep them under control. To then relinquish all that control by taking off Endo and Mac was aksing for trouble. Baj is a magnificient prospect but he was so rusty there was no way he was getting up to speed, and Grav is just not the combatative midfielder that's going to keep Sun, Richarlison and Kulusevski at bay. We handed them control of the midfield, basically.

Anyway... bummer for not getting a clean sheet, but totally happy about the win and the mostly fun football

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Thought we looked great for a lot of the game, movement was brilliant up until the subs. Elliott is still a little lightweight but there are few players in the division better on the ball. Quansah had a great game too.

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Didn’t see the game so can’t comment other than it was great to see us go 4 up but concerning to hear that we then conceded 2 goals

A win is a win though.
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I loved that .... up till the 70th minute... then it was mad.

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All the glass half full crowd should remember we went 4-0 up while the game was still on. That hour gave me massive excitement for next year.

then we throttled back almost fully in a late season dead rubber and they threw on 3 guys who had been sat for being shit lately so they carried the last half hour. That and five bucks will get you a coffee at Starbucks. i think.

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the reason steffan came on was because we were 4 nill up

klopp obviously wanted to give him some game time before the end of the season

really impressed with harvey and quansah today

trent was great first half

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And second, third and fourth.   8)
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Shame we didn't sarcastically celebrate the win as if we'd just won the world cup, kinda like they did after the Spurs win earlier in the season. Petty, I know, but it would have made me giggle..
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Really need to sort the defence out next season. Nowhere near enough clean sheets. We've obviously spunked a load of chances recently but that's the main reason we dropped out of contention for the title.


1-0 is enough and should be for a good number of games.

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Substitutions seemed to shake the flow of the team. We need to make them I guess but perhaps not so much en mass, could be better approach.

Too late now, season over, we’re 3rd. Ww had it in our grasp and we let it go, I’d like to think that mental toughness is something we reflect on for next season.
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Really enjoyed yesterday. The crowd was good, the team was good, bar 10 mins in the second half, the goals were good, the weather was good.

Thought the front three were excellent first 60 mins. The fullbacks brilliant. Elliott is an absolute star. Understandably lost our shape a bit once we changed the midfield especially, but good to see Bajcetic back on the pitch.

Two more of them before the end of the season Reds.
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Substitutions seemed to shake the flow of the team. We need to make them I guess but perhaps not so much en mass, could be better approach.

Too late now, season over, we’re 3rd. Ww had it in our grasp and we let it go, I’d like to think that mental toughness is something we reflect on for next season.

Yeah I said to my brother yesterday that it's such a shame that THAT Liverpool shows up once the pressure is off. But I try really hard to just remember that at the start of the season, no-one thought we'd be this close. Maybe it was always a hurdle too far. Maybe a couple of them just aren't up to it mentally or otherwise. But I'm sure we'll be better for it next season.
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Yeah I said to my brother yesterday that it's such a shame that THAT Liverpool shows up once the pressure is off. But I try really hard to just remember that at the start of the season, no-one thought we'd be this close. Maybe it was always a hurdle too far. Maybe a couple of them just aren't up to it mentally or otherwise. But I'm sure we'll be better for it next season.
Agree. On reflection it’s been a fantastic season, and certainly because we bought an entirely new midfield and whilst it spluttered in the beginning, it’s become quite a progressive unit, though, it still needs work to it and those players need to reflect on themselves as well for that in game mental edge.

A cup, CL secured, and a new midfield almost bedded in, not too shabby a season. Though my heart longs for what might have been….
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Agree. On reflection it’s been a fantastic season, and certainly because we bought an entirely new midfield and whilst it spluttered in the beginning, it’s become quite a progressive unit, though, it still needs work to it and those players need to reflect on themselves as well for that in game mental edge.

A cup, CL secured, and a new midfield almost bedded in, not too shabby a season. Though my heart longs for what might have been….

Dont think its just a mental thing, we are now 2 goals away from conceding 40 goals this season and for a title winner thats far too many. We have struggled a lot to take control in games and have conceded first a lot of times.

I know we dont play like Arsenal and City, but there is still something wrong with this side tactically.

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Dont think its just a mental thing, we are now 2 goals away from conceding 40 goals this season and for a title winner thats far too many. We have struggled a lot to take control in games and have conceded first a lot of times.

I know we dont play like Arsenal and City, but there is still something wrong with this side tactically.
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Other than the 5 minutes they got the goals, I was really pleased with the performance yesterday.

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Anyone hear the Divock Origi chants in the Annie Road end towards the end of the game? What’s that all about?
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Anyone hear the Divock Origi chants in the Annie Road end towards the end of the game? What’s that all about?

I assumed that was about 2019?

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Anyone hear the Divock Origi chants in the Annie Road end towards the end of the game? What’s that all about?

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Son Heung-Min is a hell of a player. Intelligent and creative as fuck.

For all the narrative about Kane not winning titles (eventually he'll win something with Bayern and/or England), chances are Son will end his career without winning anything, depending on his next club move. Next season will be his 10th at Spurs and he's 32 this summer.
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