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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2760 on: September 29, 2013, 06:58:45 pm »
Why are you people turning my Suarez appreciation thread into a bloody transfer thread?

Does this count as an 'I told you so' post or do I have to look for the others?
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2761 on: September 29, 2013, 06:59:39 pm »
Madness to think he isn't one of the best in the world.

Madness to get excited about a statement that clearly depends on your definitions
I know a lot of LFC fans have him in the top 4 or 5 in the world, I think his decision making keeps him outside that group

It's a pointless debate anyway he's clearly very very good 

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2762 on: September 29, 2013, 07:00:49 pm »
Bloody quality player and so glad we told him to sod off your not going.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2763 on: September 29, 2013, 07:03:37 pm »
Glad to see him back and to see that he still has the desire to win games. He could well be the difference for us in our Top 4 chase.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2764 on: September 29, 2013, 07:04:04 pm »
He's so good, made up we made him stay, him, Sturridge and Coutinho.... ohhh shit.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2765 on: September 29, 2013, 07:09:05 pm »
Fuck it, I love him again but then I'm a fickle bastard.

Love it. Between now and whenever he leaves all I care about is him putting the ball in the back of the net as often as possible
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2766 on: September 29, 2013, 08:18:08 pm »
He didn't have that great a game but still managed to score 2 goals.  I think the reason he sometimes misses too many chances is because he is always in the right position at the right time.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2767 on: September 29, 2013, 08:20:28 pm »
I think the crowd have spoken so we can put it to bed. There was a very loud and passionate rendition of his song. They can move on so can this thread.. Oh apart from lfc for a while who if he was there was probably sat on his hands with a face like a slapped arse because he doesnt support suarez fc and he's disrespected us so very very badly and he should be on the bench because were much better without him.

Glad to see him playing and scoring again.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2768 on: September 29, 2013, 08:28:26 pm »
This was mentioned before but I forgot how shit scared the opposition defenders are of him, nice to see them backing off for fear of the nutmeg  ;D
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2769 on: September 29, 2013, 08:29:25 pm »
He's incredible.  Made up he's got a new babe too.  Good on him.

The haters need to keep it in check.  He's our player. 

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2770 on: September 29, 2013, 08:36:48 pm »
He didn't have that great a game but still managed to score 2 goals.  I think the reason he sometimes misses too many chances is because he is always in the right position at the right time.

I think Stevie G summed it up when he was picking his all time XI of players he's played with. He isn't a natural finisher but he easily makes up for that by creating and getting in to scoring positions more than any other player in the league. If you score 2 from 10 shots in a game or score 2 from 4 shots in a game, you've still scored 2 goals at the end of the day.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2771 on: September 29, 2013, 08:59:05 pm »
I think he has toned down a bit, some of those tackles that went in on him today were pretty hard, he just got up and got on with his game, last season he would have been mouthing and jawing to the ref, early days yet I know

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2772 on: September 29, 2013, 09:14:45 pm »
His desire to win is fucking brilliant.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2773 on: September 29, 2013, 09:35:58 pm »
Can't wait to see Coutinho behind LS and LS.

Moses hasn't got the best first touch and that gets him into trouble in the middle of the pitch. I also see Coutinho as a better player in terms of making the right decisions, when to take on a man or keep possession.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2774 on: September 29, 2013, 09:36:41 pm »
Can't wait to see Coutinho behind LS and LS.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2775 on: September 29, 2013, 09:40:18 pm »
Great to have him back and scoring goals again.  I was impressed by his work rate, I really wasn't expecting anything less than 100% but nonetheless I was happy to see that he's got his head down and looked like he loved being back with the team again. 

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2776 on: September 29, 2013, 09:44:43 pm »
Where's that genius LFC for life today?



We are currently 1-0-1 with Suarez as opposed to 7-2-1 without him. So how has he improved our form yet? He helped us win 1 match, and we lost the other match that he played. Form is measured over more than one or two games you know.

Come back to me in 8 games time and we will see if he has improved our form and if LFC pick up more points upon his return than when he wasn't playing.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2777 on: September 29, 2013, 09:53:02 pm »

Great to see him scoring again. It would only raise his price when we put him on the market in January. I know that some people would disagree, but we are definitely a better team without him, and imagine what we could do with all that money in January.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2778 on: September 29, 2013, 09:57:51 pm »
Suarez is boss.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2779 on: September 29, 2013, 10:01:54 pm »
Great to see him scoring again. It would only raise his price when we put him on the market in January. I know that some people would disagree, but we are definitely a better team without him, and imagine what we could do with all that money in January.


In what way are we better without him? And please don't use stats to back up your argument.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2780 on: September 29, 2013, 10:02:31 pm »
I very much doubt he will go in January, maybe at the end of the season, think it really depends on whether we qualify for the Champions League and if we hadn't him today, where were the goals going to come from?

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2781 on: September 29, 2013, 10:05:42 pm »
I find it hard to celebrate with this guy now. I didn't really realize until today that he was dead to me.

I was happy he scored but I didn't care that he stuck it into the fans that were booing him, I didn't relish the fact the he was ours, I didn't even care for what message he had there under his shirt.

I was happy he scored for Liverpool, I don't really care about the rest. I'd have enjoyed any other player's goal a lot more.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2782 on: September 29, 2013, 10:08:30 pm »
Watching Luis Suarez play is like watching hardcore girl on girl action - You know you shouldn't, but you just cant get enough!!

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2783 on: September 29, 2013, 10:09:09 pm »
This lad is so good, if he stays fit I'm confident we can get 4th. Our squad isn't quite good enough but this is definitely the year to get it done - so glad we kept hold of him even if its just for this season, but hopefully longer.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2784 on: September 29, 2013, 10:28:47 pm »
We are currently 1-0-1 with Suarez as opposed to 7-2-1 without him. So how has he improved our form yet? He helped us win 1 match, and we lost the other match that he played. Form is measured over more than one or two games you know.

Come back to me in 8 games time and we will see if he has improved our form and if LFC pick up more points upon his return than when he wasn't playing.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2785 on: September 29, 2013, 10:37:04 pm »
There's stubborn, then there's outright blind.

Maybe it will dawn on him that we went on a winning streak because we added Sturridge and Coutinho, not because we lost Suarez. Maybe.

Welcome back to the PL, Luis. Onwards and upwards.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2786 on: September 29, 2013, 10:37:47 pm »
We are currently 1-0-1 with Suarez as opposed to 7-2-1 without him. So how has he improved our form yet? He helped us win 1 match, and we lost the other match that he played. Form is measured over more than one or two games you know.

Come back to me in 8 games time and we will see if he has improved our form and if LFC pick up more points upon his return than when he wasn't playing.

That's correlation though, not causation. As has been repeatedly stated. It is in no way explanitory to our improvement. Unless you're one of those people that believe that the increase in girls being named 'Anne' is the reason why gun-related deaths in the US are on the rise.

Saying our form was 7-2-1 without Suarez is such a selective figure. Just as easily is saying our form since Coutinho's starting debut until his injury has been 11-5-1 is related to the fact that we signed a Brazilian player who peaked during the summer months, because Brazilians play better in warm weather. Coutinho has only lost 1 game he started, that was against Southampton, where he scored, was becasue that day Suarez played. Using this selective example I could state taht Liverpool are more likely to lose when Suarez plays. I could also use the surrounding games to give a better result over how we play. 5-0 Swansea; Suarez plays. 4-0 Wigan; Suarez plays. 3-2 Tottenham; Suarez plays. Aston Villa 2-1; Suarez plays. That's 4 wins in 5 games with Suarez. How about that? He's some player. 15 goals scored, 6 conceded and 12 points from 5 games. He would make any team better!
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2787 on: September 29, 2013, 11:05:19 pm »
Great to see him scoring again. It would only raise his price when we put him on the market in January. I know that some people would disagree, but we are definitely a better team without him, and imagine what we could do with all that money in January.

If Suarez wasn't playing today do you think we would have been a better team for it?
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2788 on: September 29, 2013, 11:09:54 pm »
I find it hard to celebrate with this guy now. I didn't really realize until today that he was dead to me.

I was happy he scored but I didn't care that he stuck it into the fans that were booing him, I didn't relish the fact the he was ours, I didn't even care for what message he had there under his shirt.

I was happy he scored for Liverpool, I don't really care about the rest. I'd have enjoyed any other player's goal a lot more.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2789 on: September 29, 2013, 11:10:15 pm »
Still a twat.
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2790 on: September 29, 2013, 11:18:31 pm »
How very sad.

No sad at all, its how it should be in regards to him.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2791 on: September 29, 2013, 11:20:09 pm »
You guys shouldn't write off the disparity in our record with and without him. It strikes me as pretty shallow analysis to just call him world class and assume that all of his effects on the team are subsequently positive. How do you know it's not causation? What I've seen is that we hold possession more effectively without him on the pitch. The corollary effect being less pressure on our defense. It might seem like a negligible difference, but consider that, during any given attack, we have only two or three defenders back, with our fullbacks almost always up field, and Lucas the only midfielder holding.

But at the same time, without him, we've at times struggled to score goals.

There are a number of ways that a player influences the game. It doesn't just come down to having a good scoring record.

Personally, I'm on the fence when it comes to Suarez. He clearly adds flair and a scoring punch that we desperately need, but it comes at a cost. I've never seen such a great player, capable of moments of pure world class brilliance, that gave away possession so easily and often. He's a bit of an enigma.

Either way, great result today. It was a pretty awful defensive line for Sunderland, but it was nice to see our strikers finally looking like playing together.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2792 on: September 29, 2013, 11:32:03 pm »
Maybe it will dawn on him that we went on a winning streak because we added Sturridge and Coutinho, not because we lost Suarez. Maybe.

Welcome back to the PL, Luis. Onwards and upwards.


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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2793 on: September 29, 2013, 11:36:06 pm »
No sad at all, its how it should be in regards to him.
Take it you don't go the game?

I don't understand why a pocket full of LFC 'fans' can't stomach Luis Suarez. Yes he tried to leave the club and in retrospect he didn't go about it in a very classy way. At the end of the day he was sold the dream LFC would be a major force again and 2.5 years later progress wasn't made and we came 7th. Those that think he's the devil can you really blame him that much for wanting a crack at the Champions League?

He's a fantastic footballer, one of the best I've ever seen wear a red shirt and those that want him gone are clueless beyond belief.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2794 on: September 29, 2013, 11:36:31 pm »
Suarez vs Sunderland

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2795 on: September 29, 2013, 11:38:32 pm »
Take it you don't go the game?

I don't understand why a pocket full of LFC 'fans' can't stomach Luis Suarez. Yes he tried to leave the club and in retrospect he didn't go about it in a very classy way. At the end of the day he was sold the dream LFC would be a major force again and 2.5 years later progress wasn't made and we came 7th. Those that think he's the devil can you really blame him that much for wanting a crack at the Champions League?

He's a fantastic footballer, one of the best I've ever seen wear a red shirt and those that want him gone are clueless beyond belief.

I can stomach him, and don't want him to go at all, he is a world class player and Liverpool are a better team with in it, saying that though i don't feel the same affinity with him i had before this past summer saga.

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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2796 on: September 29, 2013, 11:39:12 pm »
Welcome back Luis!  Brilliant play today and I love that he seems to have put all the shite of the last couple of months behind him and is fully committed to the cause.  He seems genuinely happy and his team mates seem to have moved on from it all as well.  Excellent news and brilliant performance.  Great to have him back in the side!
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« Reply #2797 on: September 29, 2013, 11:39:16 pm »
We are currently 1-0-1 with Suarez as opposed to 7-2-1 without him. So how has he improved our form yet? He helped us win 1 match, and we lost the other match that he played. Form is measured over more than one or two games you know.

Come back to me in 8 games time and we will see if he has improved our form and if LFC pick up more points upon his return than when he wasn't playing.

If other players don't show up for the match then it's all Suarez's fault? I mean I understand people being a bit bitter towards what he did in the summer but fuck me, thinking that we would be a better team without him is fucking mind blowing...
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Re: Luis Suarez - my flawed hero
« Reply #2798 on: September 29, 2013, 11:42:04 pm »
Take it you don't go the game?

I don't understand why a pocket full of LFC 'fans' can't stomach Luis Suarez. Yes he tried to leave the club and in retrospect he didn't go about it in a very classy way. At the end of the day he was sold the dream LFC would be a major force again and 2.5 years later progress wasn't made and we came 7th. Those that think he's the devil can you really blame him that much for wanting a crack at the Champions League?

He's a fantastic footballer, one of the best I've ever seen wear a red shirt and those that want him gone are clueless beyond belief.

It's a case of biting off the nose to spite the face, man.  I don't get it either.  Seems like these posters feel we would have been better off giving Suarez what he wanted and selling him to Arsenal for barely more than Napoli paid for Higuain. 

He didn't say shit about the fans and again he may have been promised something but since it wasn't in writing, it's worth fuck all. 

It's like people wanted him to parade down the street with a big "I'm sorry" sign just so they can throw tomatoes at him. 

If you think we're better without Suarez, you're nuts.  I really think people don't pay attention to the impact BR coming into his own and getting players to play his way after half a season of adjustment, as well as the addition of Coutinho and Sturridge (arguably our two hottest players with Suarez), had on our results "without Suarez." 

He boggles defenses, plays a great pass, has excellent free kicks, finds space in the box, rarely/ever gets injured, and has stood by the team for 2.5 years. 

Not like he fucked off to play golf a la Tevez. 

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« Reply #2799 on: September 29, 2013, 11:46:23 pm »
It's a case of biting off the nose to spite the face, man.  I don't get it either.  Seems like these posters feel we would have been better off giving Suarez what he wanted and selling him to Arsenal for barely more than Napoli paid for Higuain. 

He didn't say shit about the fans and again he may have been promised something but since it wasn't in writing, it's worth fuck all. 

It's like people wanted him to parade down the street with a big "I'm sorry" sign just so they can throw tomatoes at him. 

If you think we're better without Suarez, you're nuts.  I really think people don't pay attention to the impact BR coming into his own and getting players to play his way after half a season of adjustment, as well as the addition of Coutinho and Sturridge (arguably our two hottest players with Suarez), had on our results "without Suarez." 

He boggles defenses, plays a great pass, has excellent free kicks, finds space in the box, rarely/ever gets injured, and has stood by the team for 2.5 years. 

Not like he fucked off to play golf a la Tevez. 
Spot on.