Topic: Never mind 'Stop the Boats' - STOP THE TORIES

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I think she's really very unhinged, and it's worrying that someone so delusional can be in positions of power. Even more worrying is that journalists keep giving her air time despite everything she did.

She looks absolute bonkers

Deleted that because of where it seems it might have come from. But she's a loon.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I think she's really very unhinged, and it's worrying that someone so delusional can be in positions of power. Even more worrying is that journalists keep giving her air time despite everything she did.

She's a clueless, vindictive, spiteful cvnt.

[Jshooters]

She’s been a parody of herself on Fox…

https://x.com/bgrueskin/status/1780213620720251029?s=46&t=q3w4iokRYJyz_JobJRZQfw

[Libertine]

[west_london_red]

Nails it perfectly, her inability to keep her mouth shut and craving for the limelight is an absolute gift for Labour

[west_london_red]

“The Conservative Party has an electoral mountain to climb. If we want to overturn the Labour lead in the opinion polls, we need to start pursuing conservative policies and show a sense of proportion.
How many voters will switch back to the Tories because of this complex and impractical ban”

That’s from Rees-Mogg and it pretty much sums up the Tory Party. No thought about the benefits this could have on peoples health, on the NHS, on productivity, on even maybe keeping people in work… nope, none of that, instead it’s just about the Tory Party and desperately trying to stay in power.

[oldfordie]

James Dalys just come up with another Bulls... attack on Labour to discredit anyone who scrutinises him or the Torys.
Chris Bryant is talking calmly asking Daly about what offence Raynors committed. Daly comes back with stop shouting, that's the trouble with Labour they can't hear becuase they are always shouting. Bryant ignores this and repeats the question, what offence do you think Raynors committed, Daly says ive answered your question GMP are investigating this so stop shouting, that's the trouble with Labour they are always shouting, nice try Daly but you should really pick the right time for this bulls.. not when the Labour MP is talking calmly and quiet.

[Schmarn]

Now I know most people don't watch PMQs but it is relevant to party morale etc.

Starmer on excellent form today referring to having a "rare unsigned copy" of Liz Truss' book and asking Sunak whether he agrees that the lettuce was part of the deep state conspiring to stop her. 

[Kenny's Jacket]

Now I know most people don't watch PMQs but it is relevant to party morale etc.

Starmer on excellent form today referring to having a "rare unsigned copy" of Liz Truss' book and asking Sunak whether he agrees that the lettuce was part of the deep state conspiring to stop her.

Sunaks constant refusal to answer the same question highlights the farce of PMQs

[Red Beret]

There’s something to be said for a prolonged death. It means you can get your grieving in when the patient is still alive. All the more important when that patient is you. The Tories have known the game is up for some time now. They can read the polls as well as the rest of us. They are facing electoral wipeout. It’s not totally out the question that they might even be the third largest party after the next election.

None of this comes easy for Tories, born to believe that they are the party of government. So there has been plenty of tears as they process their grief. First the denial. This can’t be happening, they told themselves. These things don’t happen to people like them. It is against the natural order. So they dictated their own reality. One of their choosing. The methodology of the polls was wrong. Of course it was.

Then came the anger. Messy and raw. Torrents of unprocessed rage. How dare voters even contemplate kicking them out of government? Where was the gratitude for all the government had done in making people’s lives so much worse? The country didn’t deserve them. Closer to the truth than they cared to imagine.

Next up was the bargaining. OK, we may have made one or two mistakes, the Tories whined. But they were very, very little mistakes. The sort that any government could easily make. So they were sorry. Sort of. Not that they could actually bring themselves to mouth the word. But look, just trust us. Vote for us again and this time we will get it right. We will deliver untold riches. Promise.

The fourth stage was depression. Here the Tories just sat motionless unable to raise any sort of fight. They sat largely silent in the Commons as they stared into the abyss. Those that could be bothered to even make it to Westminster. Many just lay in bed with their phones switched off, only moving to let their constituency associations know that they wouldn’t be standing again. Last one to leave could turn out the lights.

Finally the grieving process has been completed. They have reached a state of unsteady acceptance. They have come through the worst into a parallel universe where they are neither totally dead nor alive. A half-life in which they are neither happy nor sad. Just going through the motions of an existence they are struggling to recall. To give one last performance before the final curtain.

Were you to be completely clueless about the reality of current UK politics, you might have thought that all was well with the Conservatives as they gathered for the first prime minister’s questions since the Easter recess. The backbenches were almost full and MPs managed to rise to a throaty roar of approval when Rishi Sunak took his place in the chamber. And Rish! looked almost happy to be back.

Only scratch the surface and what you have is just a chimera. Nothing is quite as it seems. All smoke and mirrors. The backbenchers merely the walking dead. Sunak’s ripostes, not smart so much as desperate. What we were getting was not a battle of equals, but the spectacle of a prime minister who has always been out of his depth and is now getting his arse handed to him on a plate yet again. Because almost everything Rish! says is untrue. A bedtime fantasy to help him sleep at nights.

Keir Starmer went in on the Liz Truss sci-fi memoir. The gift that will keep on giving for Labour in the months to come. The Diary of an Idiot. Liz taking centre stage in her own commedia dell’arte. Something to put front and centre of every election leaflet. The Trusster had said that her Kamikwasi budget was the happiest day of her life. Did the prime minister know if any mortgage holder shared this ecstasy? Sunak had come prepared. Starmer should spend more time reading Angela Rayner’s tax advice. He thought he was being smart. Playing to the crowd. The reality was he just sounded bitchy and peevish. His default setting.

“Mmm,” said the Labour leader. “We have a billionaire prime minister and a billionaire peer [Lord Ashcroft] who had saved millions in tax through non-dom loopholes smearing a working-class woman over £2,000 of tax.” Is that really the rabbit hole you want to run down, Rish!? Literally, no one except the Daily Mail really cares. You want to look like a graceless, entitled bully then go right ahead.

Even Sunak had the antennae to realise that this wasn’t the best of looks. His trainer collection is worth far more than the tax Rayner is alleged to have avoided. So he found himself babbling in desperation, hoping if he carried on talking for long enough he might alight on some sentences that bordered on coherence.

He had never rated Liz Truss. Truss was a loser, he was a winner. Er … hello. Earth to Rishi. Earth to Rishi. Is there anyone there? You actually lost to the Trusster. The Tory members preferred her to you. So this one is on you and your party. You don’t get to pretend you had nothing to do with the chaos. Just grow up and take some responsibility for once.

Starmer went in for the kill. At the last budget Sunak had made £46bn of unfunded tax cuts by promising to get rid of national insurance contributions. How on Earth was he going to pay for that? Cut the NHS? Cut the state pension?

Now the bolloxometer tipped into the red. It was Labour who had put up taxes, insisted Sunak. Apparently Labour were the ones who had been in government for the past 14 years. In any case, the NHS had more than enough money. In fact it was over-funded. The waiting lists were just a fiction. Pensioners were also far too well-off. Truly, Rish! was a man of infinite compassion. He ended by saying “Vote Conservative for a brighter future”. Yup, that will work. Because the present is so obviously shit.

The rest of the session was largely taken up with local election stuff. It was Labour’s fault that local authorities were going to have to increase council tax because their money from central government had been cut. And Liz Truss’s crowning achievement had been the Australian and New Zealand trade deals that Sunak had previously rubbished. One for the ages that.

It had been an ill-tempered and sulky PMQs. One that did the Commons no favours. Then there are few depths that Sunak has not shown himself willing to explore. The golden boy repeatedly falling from grace. Then, as we know, the grieving process is rarely simple.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/17/tory-mps-limp-into-pmqs-after-finally-accepting-their-fate

[west_london_red]

Sunaks constant refusal to answer the same question highlights the farce of PMQs

Said it before and I’ll say it again, opposition MPs should just boycott and spend their time doing something useful like work in food bank for a couple of hours.

[PaulF]

Said it before and I’ll say it again, opposition MPs should just boycott and spend their time doing something useful like work in food bank for a couple of hours.

.maybe send one mp in. With a single question. Just to avoid any possible backlash.

[west_london_red]

.maybe send one mp in. With a single question. Just to avoid any possible backlash.

Backlash from who? As long as they are doing something useful instead of wasting it in the Commons there’s nothing to complain about.

[PaulF]

Backlash from who? As long as they are doing something useful instead of wasting it in the Commons there’s nothing to complain about.

I didn't have anyone in mind. But I'm sure someone will say they are undermining democracy or not representing the electorate or something.

[west_london_red]

I didn't have anyone in mind. But I'm sure someone will say they are undermining democracy or not representing the electorate or something.

Your probably right but it’s not exactly hard to evidence what a waste of time it’s become, we see the same shit every week.

[TepidT2O]

And another one…


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-mp-mark-menzies-under-investigation-campaign-funds-bhksggpwl

[west_london_red]

WTF???

[Bobsackamano]

And another one…


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-mp-mark-menzies-under-investigation-campaign-funds-bhksggpwl

🤣🤣 Kinell, this one again!

"A decade ago Menzies quit as a ministerial aide following allegations about his behaviour made by a Brazilian male escort."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/17/tory-mp-loses-whip-after-claims-he-used-party-funds-to-pay-bad-people

[Statto Red]

🤣🤣 Kinell, this one again!

"A decade ago Menzies quit as a ministerial aide following allegations about his behaviour made by a Brazilian male escort."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/17/tory-mp-loses-whip-after-claims-he-used-party-funds-to-pay-bad-people

Has given up the whip.

https://news.sky.com/story/mark-menzies-mp-gives-up-tory-whip-following-newspaper-claims-13116735

[TSC]

https://news.sky.com/story/lords-delay-rwanda-bill-to-next-week-in-blow-to-rishi-sunaks-agenda-13117237

[PaulF]

🤣🤣 Kinell, this one again!

"A decade ago Menzies quit as a ministerial aide following allegations about his behaviour made by a Brazilian male escort."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/17/tory-mp-loses-whip-after-claims-he-used-party-funds-to-pay-bad-people

I don't understand this.  Using baby steps, I think...

He's locked in a flat , presumed kidnapped, under death threat unless a ransom is paid
He phones a volunteer (not sure why the time or age matters, unless to point out how crap he is)
volunteer contacts office manager
office manager pays quickly with her own funds
office manager paid back from party funds.

If he'd been taken, because he's a Tory MP , then I can kind of see why party funds might be used to release him. And I can see that it makes sense for the office manager to pay privately as that would be quickest.
Weirdly he's only worth £6.5k  , I mean I know he's a tory MP and everything, but surely you demand more if you are going to those lengths.

[Bobsackamano]

I don't understand this.  Using baby steps, I think...

He's locked in a flat , presumed kidnapped, under death threat unless a ransom is paid
He phones a volunteer (not sure why the time or age matters, unless to point out how crap he is)
volunteer contacts office manager
office manager pays quickly with her own funds
office manager paid back from party funds.

If he'd been taken, because he's a Tory MP , then I can kind of see why party funds might be used to release him. And I can see that it makes sense for the office manager to pay privately as that would be quickest.
Weirdly he's only worth £6.5k  , I mean I know he's a tory MP and everything, but surely you demand more if you are going to those lengths.

Also a kidnapping and ransom paid must be a police matter now. Surely they investigate. Would not surprise me in any way if this gets even more murky from here on in. No one wanted this to come out. I wonder what sordid shit a middle aged Tory MP with a penchant for young male prostitutes could have been up to 🤔

[Bobsackamano]

A council leader this time, sounds a right horrible c**t

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-68829156

[Kenny's Jacket]

I don't understand this.  Using baby steps, I think...

He's locked in a flat , presumed kidnapped, under death threat unless a ransom is paid
He phones a volunteer (not sure why the time or age matters, unless to point out how crap he is)
volunteer contacts office manager
office manager pays quickly with her own funds
office manager paid back from party funds.

If he'd been taken, because he's a Tory MP , then I can kind of see why party funds might be used to release him. And I can see that it makes sense for the office manager to pay privately as that would be quickest.
Weirdly he's only worth £6.5k  , I mean I know he's a tory MP and everything, but surely you demand more if you are going to those lengths.

'
My assessment so far seems to be, Tory MP uses emotional blackmail to gain access to Tory money. Its hard to get angry about it.

[Red Beret]

I don't understand this.  Using baby steps, I think...

He's locked in a flat , presumed kidnapped, under death threat unless a ransom is paid
He phones a volunteer (not sure why the time or age matters, unless to point out how crap he is)
volunteer contacts office manager
office manager pays quickly with her own funds
office manager paid back from party funds.

If he'd been taken, because he's a Tory MP , then I can kind of see why party funds might be used to release him. And I can see that it makes sense for the office manager to pay privately as that would be quickest.
Weirdly he's only worth £6.5k  , I mean I know he's a tory MP and everything, but surely you demand more if you are going to those lengths.

Sounds like a "gambling" debt of some sort to me. He might have been sitting there with one hand in a vice. Or could be blackmail. Something that he clearly wanted no police involvement with. He could have just said he was locked up to impart the urgency needed to get the money sharpish.

Whatever it was, someone is very bold to do that to an MP.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Sounds like a "gambling" debt of some sort to me. He might have been sitting there with one hand in a vice. Or could be blackmail. Something that he clearly wanted no police involvement with. He could have just said he was locked up to impart the urgency needed to get the money sharpish.

Whatever it was, someone is very bold to do that to an MP.

'Thats my assumption too

[PaulF]

Thanks folks, essentially, he's just found a batshit crazy way to steal from Tory funds?

[filopastry]

https://twitter.com/CliveWismayer/status/1780854197392486652

It has to be said, that list has aged very well for Menzies and Wragg

[Kenny's Jacket]

https://twitter.com/CliveWismayer/status/1780854197392486652

It has to be said, that list has very well for Menzies and Wragg

Is that real? 

[west_london_red]

Kwateng has had a go at Truss and Rudd?!?!

[gazzalfc]

Forget a general election, just keep having tory MP's losing their whip and Labour will have a majority before the end of the year.

[Riquende]

Is that real? 

Come on, does this look like the face of a man marked down as "perpetually intoxicated" (and very inappropriate with women)?

[Kenny's Jacket]

Come on, does this look like the face of a man marked down as "perpetually intoxicated" (and very inappropriate with women)?

 

[killer-heels]

https://twitter.com/CliveWismayer/status/1780854197392486652

It has to be said, that list has very well for Menzies and Wragg

Guy Copperfeel

John Wittingdale wanting odd sexual acts. Reminds me of the time in The Thick of It when Malcolm Tucker and Stewart Pearson argue over these things being carried out by their parties MP’s.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Rory Stewart -who knew 

[TepidT2O]

Rory Stewart -who knew 

??

[TepidT2O]

The guy who was suspended yesterday?

Turns out he was an unofficial government trade envoy to…., Colombia

[Kenny's Jacket]

??

asked Sophie Boslover to do 'odd' things

[TepidT2O]

asked Sophie Boslover to do 'odd' things

Oh… he’s addressed this in the past I think.
Funny, all those marked as dodgy are in fact ….dodgy

[oldfordie]

Kwateng has had a go at Truss and Rudd?!?!

Well that's one way of putting it. seems he's been putting it everywhere he can.
No wonder he's always smiling,