Topic: The Men in Suits behind the scenes

[Peabee]

The only real Liverpool ITK is Durlmints, and that's because he's part of the scouting team, so it's a given really. He's the only ITK with 98% accuracy on his information. But don't take my word for it, why not subscribe to durlmintsLFCtransfernews.blogspot.com for only £49.99 a month?

Can I pay with bitcoins?

[afc tukrish]

Can I pay with bitcoins?

Or more mints, maybe...

[BabuYagu]

Well we all have opinions mine are not as rosy as yours :

 Ayre was happy to assist Cecil and the two crooks in getting rid of Rafa, he changed his allegiances when he was told that the two crooks were to be got rid of,  he didnt sort out the deal for FSG three people were involved and he had the least status and say in the whole matter.
FSG called the shots later they got Klopp, not Ayre, Klopp got Firmino not Ayre, he was good at selling shirts but as a CEO he was a fucking disaster.

Firmino has largely been put down to Edwards and the scouting department and arrived a few months before Klopp I believe.

Ayre also didn't have a brilliant go of things at 1860 Munich after leaving here. They were 2. Bundesliga, finished in the relegation play offs, lost to get relegated to 3. Liga. They were unable to pay their licence and therefore got relegated into the Regional divisions (non-league). Ayre resigned shortly after.

[No666]

And was reviled by Huddersfield supporters before he came to us.

[Giono]

Firmino has largely been put down to Edwards and the scouting department and arrived a few months before Klopp I believe.

Ayre also didn't have a brilliant go of things at 1860 Munich after leaving here. They were 2. Bundesliga, finished in the relegation play offs, lost to get relegated to 3. Liga. They were unable to pay their licence and therefore got relegated into the Regional divisions (non-league). Ayre resigned shortly after.

Wasn’t Emre his as well? Or maybe that was someone else?

[PhaseOfPlay]

Well we all have opinions mine are not as rosy as yours :

 Ayre was happy to assist Cecil and the two crooks in getting rid of Rafa, he changed his allegiances when he was told that the two crooks were to be got rid of,  he didnt sort out the deal for FSG three people were involved and he had the least status and say in the whole matter.
FSG called the shots later they got Klopp, not Ayre, Klopp got Firmino not Ayre, he was good at selling shirts but as a CEO he was a fucking disaster.

Surely that was Rodgers?

[PhaseOfPlay]

I don't know about Edwards' involvement in any breakdown of the Fekir deal, but if Deadpool 2 isn't as good as it's been made out, when I go to see it this weekend, that Edwards fekir better be given his cards on Monday morning, I'll tell ye that for free!

[Something Worse]

I don't know about Edwards' involvement in any breakdown of the Fekir deal, but if Deadpool 2 isn't as good as it's been made out, when I go to see it this weekend, that Edwards fekir better be given his cards on Monday morning, I'll tell ye that for free!

I went into Deadpool 2 and a transfer mod was saying to calm down the Fabinho stuff. When the movie ended he was doing the lean.

Hope it's the same story for you haha

[TepidT2O]

I went into Deadpool 2 and a transfer mod was saying to calm down the Fabinho stuff. When the movie ended he was doing the lean.

Hope it's the same story for you haha

Ah... yes... sorry.

[SkyCaptain]

Guys, Fenerbahce SK had elected a new president a few days ago. Damien Comolli is signed as new sporting director and according to Turkish media Comolli’s first manager target is Zeljko Buvac. What can you say about Comolli and Buvac? Why did Buvac leave from Klopp’s staff?

[sms1986]

Guys, Fenerbahce SK had elected a new president a few days ago. Damien Comolli is signed as new sporting director and according to Turkish media Comolli’s first manager target is Zeljko Buvac. What can you say about Comolli and Buvac? Why did Buvac leave from Klopp’s staff?

How reliable would you say the media reports are?

We don't know why Buvac took some time away from the club.

[J-Mc-]

#EdwardsOut

[SkyCaptain]

How reliable would you say the media reports are?

We don't know why Buvac took some time away from the club.

News are spreading from more than one sources and yes some of them are really reliable.

New president have strong business relations with UK, Spain and Germany. Beko is just one of their trademarks.

Zeljko and Jurgen’s playing philosophy suits Fenerbahce and its fans too. So we will be really happy if the news are true and we signed Zeljko Buvac as new Fenerbahce manager.

[Vorg]

We've come a long way from Comolli, haven't we?

To be fair, Comolli did OK. He got the players the manager wanted. By Kenny's own account, the reason e.g. much-vilified Downing, Carroll and Downing were signed was because Dalglish wanted them in the team. The same goes also for Henderson (£16 million), who according to Comolli was the last straw that cost him his job. Comolli is also the man who brought us Luis Suárez.

[Dim Glas]

News are spreading from more than one sources and yes some of them are really reliable.

New president have strong business relations with UK, Spain and Germany. Beko is just one of their trademarks.

Zeljko and Jurgen’s playing philosophy suits Fenerbahce and its fans too. So we will be really happy if the news are true and we signed Zeljko Buvac as new Fenerbahce manager.

no offense to Fenherbahce, but what an utterly peculiar move that would be for Buvac.

I could have seen him going back to Germany, but this, very odd. We'll see I guess.

[SkyCaptain]

no offense to Fenherbahce, but what an utterly peculiar move that would be for Buvac.

I could have seen him going back to Germany, but this, very odd. We'll see I guess.

Actually if you watch the 2005 Istanbul final you may have the idea why he would choose Turkey as a destination. Football passion is much more different than Germany in Turkey. Fenerbahce is like BVB in Turkey. Budgets, supporters and training facilities are so similar. Media says that he will take charge of Mainz or Fenerbahce. And one last note, he is Bosnian. Bosnians and Turks have also so similar cultures, his adaptation time would be so short.

What can you say about Comolli? He will be responsible for all football operations in Fenerbahce for 3 years. We don’t have so healthy transfer budgets for now and the board are expecting him to establish a very effective scouting team and improve youth academies.

[Dim Glas]

Actually if you watch the 2005 Istanbul final you may have the idea why he would choose Turkey as a destination. Football passion is much more different than Germany in Turkey. Fenerbahce is like BVB in Turkey. Budgets, supporters and training facilities are so similar. Media says that he will take charge of Mainz or Fenerbahce. And one last note, he is Bosnian. Bosnians and Turks have also so similar cultures, his adaptation time would be so short.

What can you say about Comolli? He will be responsible for all football operations in Fenerbahce for 3 years. We don’t have so healthy transfer budgets for now and the board are expecting him to establish a very effective scouting team and improve youth academies.

Not sure what the istanbul final has to do with it, or football passion    Can't beat Germany for that anyway in my mind.

Just from a footballing perspective it'd be so odd. But whatever, we'll see where he goes. Mainz would make more sense, but I hope they stick with the coach they have rather than go for a guy whos not been a head coach of a team in 18 years.

[Something Worse]

Ah... yes... sorry.

Haha no need to apologize it was awesome

[SkyCaptain]

Not sure what the istanbul final has to do with it, or football passion    Can't beat Germany for that anyway in my mind.

Just from a footballing perspective it'd be so odd. But whatever, we'll see where he goes. Mainz would make more sense, but I hope they stick with the coach they have rather than go for a guy whos not been a head coach of a team in 18 years.

Danke.

I meant, German fans are so responsible while they are enjoying in football matches. But English, Turkish, Greek and South Italian fans are crazy. They’re living with the football in their daily routines. That’s what I meant with the word of passion.

If he don’t like this kind of atmospheres, well of course he should stick with the Bundesliga. And i think that Zeljko Buvac is more than a regular assistant manager. Unfortunately LFC family will realize that this season.

[Dim Glas]

Danke.

I meant, German fans are so responsible while they are enjoying in football matches. But English, Turkish, Greek and South Italian fans are crazy. They’re living with the football in their daily routines. That’s what I meant with the word of passion.

If he don’t like this kind of atmospheres, well of course he should stick with the Bundesliga. And i think that Zeljko Buvac is more than a regular assistant manager. Unfortunately LFC family will realize that this season.

I don't think atmosphere is what that is going to sway a coach, that's what I'm saying I don't think that is what is topping the list of reasons for choosing a club. It's about football firstly. So I'm not getting why that is a basis to an argument.

I know what Buvac is like, I've followed his career alongside Kloppo's for years, and I know the impact losing him can have if he isn't replaced properly. Which is another reason I would think him mad to make such a career move, yes you can say 'but he'll be a head coach instead of an assistant'. It's still one allmighty step downwards, unless he has nothing better to go for. Again, no offense to your league.

 

[Dougle]

I think what he's guilty of is saying something is certain.

Like he'll hear something is agreed verbally between player and club and he'll say it's done.

Or Fekir has medical issue = it's off.

When it's usually not as back and white as that. For what it's worth I think after reading Reddys article Edwards will be back over there to renegotiate the fee based on appearances. Protects LFC whilst if stays fit Lyon get full amount.

Reckon you are spot on there.

[Mutton Geoff]

Surely that was Rodgers?

Nobody likes a smart arse 

[riismeister]

Seems he is doing a very good job. Fair play

Indeed.

[Cid]

Well we all have opinions mine are not as rosy as yours :

 Ayre was happy to assist Cecil and the two crooks in getting rid of Rafa, he changed his allegiances when he was told that the two crooks were to be got rid of,  he didnt sort out the deal for FSG three people were involved and he had the least status and say in the whole matter.
FSG called the shots later they got Klopp, not Ayre, Klopp got Firmino not Ayre, he was good at selling shirts but as a CEO he was a fucking disaster.

I'll forever bear a custom title for saying it, but it was Purslow I believe most responsible.  Only a slimy prick like that had the pure gall to sell the club from under his own bosses.  I recall a video of him celebrating after the sale went through too.

Consider also that H&G tried to have Purslow and Ayre removed from the board and the generally held notion that Ayre favoured Lims bid.  Combine that with the final decision being a majority, not unanimous and we can make an educated guess that Purslow wanted FSG.

Many will always hate him for the decisions he made in the dark times, but for me he and Broughton are the reasons we escaped that fate.

[clinical]

Assuming Ings and Mignolet together raise £25m along with a few £m loan fees for Origi and Markovic. Edwards could raise £40m there abouts with Ward fee. Amazing really.

£180m raised in 2018. Is that a record?

Considering we've spent £173m this summer that truly is incredible taking into account we are much stronger. You'd think there really should be plenty of £ left for future windows. Unless Coutinho money was planned for VVD and Keita. But I'm sure their purchases weren't dependant on him being sold.

Either way. Well done Edwards.

[KingKolo]

Assuming Ings and Mignolet together raise £25m along with a few £m loan fees for Origi and Markovic. Edwards could raise £40m there abouts with Ward fee. Amazing really.

£180m raised in 2018. Is that a record?

Considering we've spent £173m this summer that truly is incredible taking into account we are much stronger. You'd think there really should be plenty of £ left for future windows. Unless Coutinho money was planned for VVD and Keita. But I'm sure their purchases weren't dependant on him being sold.

Either way. Well done Edwards.

What on earth makes you so sure of that?

[clinical]

What on earth makes you so sure of that?

Because we wanted them before Neymar was sold and Barca came for Phil. Simple at that mate.

You think the VVD and Keita were only bought on the back of selling a player we had no plan of selling?

[KingKolo]

Because we wanted them before Neymar was sold and Barca came for Phil. Simple at that mate.

You think the VVD and Keita were only bought on the back of selling a player we had no plan of selling?

By summer 2017 it was pretty obvious to everyone that Coutinho would be off to Barca sooner or later.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if we held onto Coutinho a bit longer because we'd failed to get deals for Van Dijk and Keita over the line.

Obviously we'll never know, and it's not in the interest of the club to make it known if true.

Our average yearly net spend under FSG before Klopp arrived was about €40m.
First couple of years he didn't really spend any money, so let's say he saved €80m from that period, plus another €40m for this year, it still doesn't add up to the €168m we've spent this summer.

Of course there's a bit more TV money kicking around... but overall I reckon it's safe to assume that we've spent what there is to spend.

[lorenzo]

By summer 2017 it was pretty obvious to everyone that Coutinho would be off to Barca sooner or later.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if we held onto Coutinho a bit longer because we'd failed to get deals for Van Dijk and Keita over the line.

Obviously we'll never know, and it's not in the interest of the club to make it known if true.

Our average yearly net spend under FSG before Klopp arrived was about €40m.
First couple of years he didn't really spend any money, so let's say he saved €80m from that period, plus another €40m for this year, it still doesn't add up to the €168m we've spent this summer.

Of course there's a bit more TV money kicking around... but overall I reckon it's safe to assume that we've spent what there is to spend.

Oh here we go.............

[KingKolo]

Oh here we go.............

haha ffs...

Let me be clear:

FSG and Klopp are the best two things to happen to LFC since we last won the European Cup (and I was in Istanbul btw). FSG are fantastic owners IMO. The main stand is an absolute credit, they're doing mostly good things off the pitch in terms of commercial revenues, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being run sensibly and sustainably.

We've made some brilliant signings in the last few years, and I have no issue whatsoever with the extent to which FSG are putting their hands in their pockets.

I just think it's a bit fantasist to think that there's a big pot of money leftover somewhere from the Coutinho deal. This year we've bought the world's most expensive centre back and the world's most expensive goalkeeper, along with investing nearly £100m on our midfield.

[kasperoff]

Because we wanted them before Neymar was sold and Barca came for Phil. Simple at that mate.

You think the VVD and Keita were only bought on the back of selling a player we had no plan of selling?

I don't really believe in this kitty whereby it ebbs and flows depending on who we've bought and sold. We've been negative net spend for a while, but I don't think we have a transfer pot that still has money in it from 2015. It'll be a case-by-case basis per transfer. Yes, we've done very well in sales lately and they will positively effect the health of the club, but along with the CL run and the expanded marketing and sales, it will just all go into the bank. When we want a player, we see what we've got, and go from there.

This Alisson fee has blown me away really. We are doing what I hoped we would do. In January after signing VVD, I said to a colleague that we need to do the same with a keeper. Find the right man and blow the bank to get him, given it was our last obvious weak spot. I never thought we'd actually do it. But I don't think it's because we are in the black over the last 5 years in transfer fees. It's because we've been doing well, Klopp has a good record of identifying the right targets and the coffers are generally in rude health.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

haha ffs...

Let me be clear:

FSG and Klopp are the best two things to happen to LFC since we last won the European Cup (and I was in Istanbul btw). FSG are fantastic owners IMO. The main stand is an absolute credit, they're doing mostly good things off the pitch in terms of commercial revenues, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being run sensibly and sustainably.

We've made some brilliant signings in the last few years, and I have no issue whatsoever with the extent to which FSG are putting their hands in their pockets.

I just think it's a bit fantasist to think that there's a big pot of money leftover somewhere from the Coutinho deal. This year we've bought the world's most expensive centre back and the world's most expensive goalkeeper, along with investing nearly £100m on our midfield.

I think that Klopp has been willing to wait for the right men because he was assured that any money that came in and any money he didn't spend would roll over,for that reason I also think that if the right player came along before the 5th he still has the funds to splash out & if that player was silly money I have faith that FSG would release more money.

[kasperoff]

haha ffs...

Let me be clear:

FSG and Klopp are the best two things to happen to LFC since we last won the European Cup (and I was in Istanbul btw). FSG are fantastic owners IMO. The main stand is an absolute credit, they're doing mostly good things off the pitch in terms of commercial revenues, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being run sensibly and sustainably.

We've made some brilliant signings in the last few years, and I have no issue whatsoever with the extent to which FSG are putting their hands in their pockets.

I just think it's a bit fantasist to think that there's a big pot of money leftover somewhere from the Coutinho deal. This year we've bought the world's most expensive centre back and the world's most expensive goalkeeper, along with investing nearly £100m on our midfield.

You seem to be trying to paint a skinflint narrative here, but we've got the worlds most expensive defender and goalkeeper. I know we've been good at balancing the books lately, but the outlay sanctioned for VVD and Alisson is fucking bigtime. The owners clearly have ambition and want to win things.


Plus, I'm quite happy that we are bring run in a sustainable fashion.

[KingKolo]

You seem to be trying to paint a skinflint narrative here, but we'd got the worlds most expensive defender and goalkeeper. I know we've been good at balancing the books lately, but the outlay sanctioned for VVD and Alisson is fucking bigtime. The owners clearly have ambition and want to win things.


Plus, I'm quite happy that we are bring run in a sustainable fashion.

You say I'm 'painting a skinflint narrative', and then go on to repeat back to me pretty much everything I said, all of which was really complimentary about FSG. Strange.

I think that Klopp has been willing to wait for the right men because he was assured that any money that came in and any money he didn't spend would roll over,for that reason I also think that if the right player came along before the 5th he still has the funds to splash out & if that player was silly money I have faith that FSG would release more money.

I very much doubt it, but would be delighted to be proved wrong.

Either way, we're in a great position compared to where we were when FSG first came in, and I'm really happy about the direction the club is moving in.

[dimwit]

Seems he is doing a very good job. Fair play

[Welshred]

Assuming Ings and Mignolet together raise £25m along with a few £m loan fees for Origi and Markovic. Edwards could raise £40m there abouts with Ward fee. Amazing really.

£180m raised in 2018. Is that a record?

Considering we've spent £173m this summer that truly is incredible taking into account we are much stronger. You'd think there really should be plenty of £ left for future windows. Unless Coutinho money was planned for VVD and Keita. But I'm sure their purchases weren't dependant on him being sold.

Either way. Well done Edwards.

We got £12.5m for Ward, we're getting much more than that for Mignolet if we move him on.

[KingKolo]

We got £12.5m for Ward, we're getting much more than that for Mignolet if we move him on.

Dunno if it'll be much more. Mignolet will have minimal resale value for whoever buys him, and Ward enhanced his credentials with his stint at Huddersfield.

[Welshred]

Dunno if it'll be much more. Mignolet will have minimal resale value for whoever buys him, and Ward enhanced his credentials with his stint at Huddersfield.

In the Championship and has played 1 Premier League game in his whole career to date. Mignolet is 30 and still has several years left in him for a mid-table Premier League or continental side. If he leaves he's not leaving for a similar amount to Ward, he's going for a fair bit more. Either way £25m for Mignolet and Ings as stated in the original quote is extremely conservative.

[Lycan]

Smashing it at the moment is the lad. Fair play to him.

Shame on all the naysayers who weren't prepared to give him a chance.

[Clint Eastwood]

https://youtu.be/fkMOwZpU3zM?t=4m35s

That's the first time I've seen Edwards that isn't the usual picture. Also the first time I've heard him speak. Pretty sure he tries to escape the video too when he sees them walking up the stairs

Done well this summer.