Topic: The Men in Suits behind the scenes

[KingKolo]

In the Championship and has played 1 Premier League game in his whole career to date. Mignolet is 30 and still has several years left in him for a mid-table Premier League or continental side. If he leaves he's not leaving for a similar amount to Ward, he's going for a fair bit more. Either way £25m for Mignolet and Ings as stated in the original quote is extremely conservative.

Well, it'll be interesting to see, but you're probably right, seeing as £50m gets you Richarlison these days (lol)

[SerbianScouser]

Moneyball 2 with Brad Pitt as sir Michael Edwards. Gary Busey as Klopp. You're welcome Hollywood.

[KingKolo]

We got £12.5m for Ward, we're getting much more than that for Mignolet if we move him on.

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2018/07/25/lfc-set-to-do-another-smart-12m-deal/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/simon-mignolet-emerges-shock-barcelona-12980965
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/liverpool/transfer-talk/news/Beşiktaş-lining-up-12m-mignolet-move_331410.html

Apparently not...

[Hazell]

Apparently not...

That first link is quoting The Sun.

[KingKolo]

That first link is quoting The Sun.

Removed!

[Boaty McBoatface]

We need to clone Michael Edwards and get him to negotiate a "golden handcuffs" contract for the original.

Man's playing a blinder.

[the_red_pill]

We need to clone Michael Edwards and get him to negotiate a "golden handcuffs" contract for the original.

Man's playing a blinder.

Klopp and Edwards are really a great team. I get the sense they have an easy-going partnership and they have a few things in common and share some views. Reminds me of the great managerial-upper brass/owner partnerships, such as our own during Shankly's/Paisley's era, Arsenal's and even United's - in all their successful years.

We've got a good thing with Henry at the helm - he knows how to surround himself with talented individuals; and in the end that's what you want from an owner. Who would've thought such a thing after the Cancers and their misery!

[Dim Glas]

Klopp and Edwards are really a great team. I get the sense they have an easy-going partnership and they have a few things in common. Reminds me of the great managerial-upper brass/owner partnerships, such as our own during Shankly's/Paisley's era, Arsenal's and even United's - in all their successful years.

We've got a good thing with Henry at the helm - he knows how to surround himself with talented individuals; and in the end that's what you want from an owner. Who would've thought such a thing after the Cancers and their misery!

The 3 teams Kloppo has been at he's had a really strong working relationship with the sporting director, Christian Heidl at Mainz, Michael Zorc at BVB, and now with Michael Edwards it seems to be that way too.  Probably not a coincidence!

 

[Giono]

Moneyball 2 with Brad Pitt as sir Michael Edwards. Gary Busey as Klopp. You're welcome Hollywood.

Gary Busey? No way. It would have to be a red like Daniel Craig. And Danny DeVito as Mourinho....

[FlashGordon]

Reports he's being lined up to lead Trump's new spaceforce. His deal making has been described as out of this world.

[mercury]

The 3 teams Kloppo has been at he's had a really strong working relationship with the sporting director, Christian Heidl at Mainz, Michael Zorc at BVB, and now with Michael Edwards it seems to be that way too.  Probably not a coincidence!

 

A real leader of man and man of confidence, our Klopp

[PaisleyPrint]

Gary Busey? No way. It would have to be a red like Daniel Craig. And Danny DeVito as Mourinho....

That works for me 😂

[GBF]

Remember those days when we had Coco and the transfer committees...

[clinical]

He's done very well so far this window. Few more to sell. Wasn't his fault the Fekir deal fell through. If not would have been perfect window imo.

[No666]

Remember those days when we had Coco and the transfer committees...

The transfer committee were the same personnel as are at the club now, more or less, minus Ayre and Rodgers. That probably indicates where the problems lay.

[CraigDS]

The transfer committee were the same personnel as are at the club now, more or less, minus Ayre and Rodgers. That probably indicates where the problems lay.

I don’t think the issue was any one particular person, just a lack of joined up thinking with manager and club wanting different things.

[redk84]

Waited until the end of the window to make any comments on how well he's done.....and this will kind of spill into other areas so apologies if its not in the right place but....

Edwards and co have stepped up a lot and have supported klopp well. Which is what I was hoping from the outset when Klopp first arrived.
The manager has built a team he wants and was allowed to with the help he's been given.....so you can't really complain at the moment.

The difference between us and City/United is the speed at which we can make money available and add that's it. But I guess it suits as Klopp has eventually got who he wants. It fits.
CB cover, Creative spark in midfield (Fekir).....there's holes.....but there's holes in every squad. We're in a great position after 2 and a half seasons under Klopp on and off the pitch.

We do spend what we recoup and then £20-£40m net. We know it - that's our lot. Its not a coincidence our biggest window came right after our biggest sale but its ok as Klopp has his team and ultimately if we win silverware thats all that will matter.

(We are attempting to change that maybe? and be able to spend AND hold on to our best players at the same time, I guess I just have to see it consistently to be convinced thats the way we're going)

Anyways, well done to Edwards et al and it was a good transfer window.
This squad now has the next two seasons i'd say to leave Klopp's stamp on this club in terms of what we achieve in silverware. And we are not going into it scared, but embracing it as that is the atmosphere Klopp has brought....let's hope its a great season.

[Giono]

The transfer committee were the same personnel as are at the club now, more or less, minus Ayre and Rodgers. That probably indicates where the problems lay.

Ya, there is a lot less monitoring and buying players who had a good game against us.

[Djimi Smicer34]

He’s overseen the best transfer window we’ve had in years IMO - arguably just short of perfect but that wasn’t down to Edwards or Liverpool.  I’d still score us a 9.5/10 in the market and think we’re very well placed to challenge on multiple fronts this season.

Edwards deserves great credit for acting quickly and decisively, not just this summer but in getting the Keita and VVD deals over the line. 

[The G in Gerrard]

Be interesting to see what we do over next couple of weeks in terms of outgoings. Done a amazing job on incomings this summer.

[Barefoot Doctor]

He’s overseen the best transfer window we’ve had in years IMO - arguably just short of perfect but that wasn’t down to Edwards or Liverpool.  I’d still score us a 9.5/10 in the market and think we’re very well placed to challenge on multiple fronts this season.

Edwards deserves great credit for acting quickly and decisively, not just this summer but in getting the Keita and VVD deals over the line.

Yeah, it's the speed we operate with that impresses me so much. Had the window gone exactly to plan, he'd have secured deals for Keita, Fabinho, Shaqiri, Alisson and Fekir all by July 19. I suppose that's the benefit of a truly joined-up approach - we know exactly who we want and just go buy them. Unlike many of our rivals, we have a clear vision of the exact type of player we need and there's no jumping between targets.

It just feels like we have adults in charge. And while that leads to some short term disappointment (like not getting another attacker) the long term benefits are massive. I'm sure they'll already have a fairly clear idea in their heads of what positions they'll look to strengthen in next, which is a huge positive.

[No666]

There was a glowing article in the Evening Standard of all places about our transfer business.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-transfers-jurgen-klopp-deadline-day-nabil-fekir-christian-pulisic-a3907071.html

[clinical]

So from this time last year:

Brought in VVD (£75m)

Lost Coutinho (£142m) brought in Keita (£53m)

Lost Can (£0m) brought in Fabinho (£43m)

Lost Ox for the year brought in Shaqiri (£13m)

Also will lose Mignolet (£8M) And Ward (£12m) and brought in Alisson (£65m)

Lallana in for Ings (£20m) basically too.

I'd say we have increased the quality overall. Especially in keeper department. I wouldn't say squad depth has increased too much in attack but we're certainly better off overall. Assuming we get £8m for mignolet give or take. We've basically done that on about £70m net. Have to be glad at that. It will be a bit more than that due to agent fees etc. But that's a big improvement with a relatively low spend which could be made better if we get real money for Origi and Markovic.

[joekim87]

If he manages to offload Mignolet, Markovic, Origi, Ward and Ings for a combined 60m (not impossible), he should be audited for accounting fraud. An amazingly upgrade squad for basically peanuts in the P&L!

[CraigDS]

If he manages to offload Mignolet, Markovic, Origi, Ward and Ings for a combined 60m (not impossible), he should be audited for accounting fraud. An amazingly upgrade squad for basically peanuts in the P&L!

Well what's that leave, £28m to find over Mignolet, Markovic and Origi? If he can get £12m each for Mignolet and Origi I'd be happy with anything for Markovic 

[joekim87]

Well what's that leave, £28m to find over Mignolet, Markovic and Origi? If he can get £12m each for Mignolet and Origi I'd be happy with anything for Markovic 

I think I was being much too conservative perhaps? I'll raise from 60m to 80m. Is 80m possible?

[clinical]

I think I was being much too conservative perhaps? I'll raise from 60m to 80m. Is 80m possible?

No.

[arab88]

I wanted two players with all my heart:

VVD and Alisson. He brought both of them.

Keita was another amawing buy.

We bought only players who are going to DRASTICALLY improve our first lineup.

We could have bought another CB and Fekir, but nobody is perfect.

I give him a 9.5/10, we have done fantastically well. Congrats Edward!

[rocco]

There was a glowing article in the Evening Standard of all places about our transfer business.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-transfers-jurgen-klopp-deadline-day-nabil-fekir-christian-pulisic-a3907071.html

Alisson
The Reds will pay a guaranteed £50m for the 25-year-old, with the £9m worth of success-related add-ons included - ones that the club would no doubt be delighted to hand over further down the line.

Thought we paid £65m

[CraigDS]

Alisson
The Reds will pay a guaranteed £50m for the 25-year-old, with the £9m worth of success-related add-ons included - ones that the club would no doubt be delighted to hand over further down the line.

Thought we paid £65m

€65m wasn't it? Which works out to £59m roughly.

[newterp]

€65m wasn't it? Which works out to £59m roughly.

not when the other teams decide what we paid - according to them it's £65m. What's a symbol mean anyway.

[elpistolero7]

Its like him and Klopp are pretty much the exact opposite of Rodgers and Ayre/Transfer committee.

We can now attract top players, sell for massive fees every single time and bring in great players, with a very high success rate. We've basically lost nothing in value on every single player Klopp has brought in. Even Klavan and the much maligned Karius would go for more than we got them. Every big money signing has been a success. When your 'worst' signing is Wijnaldum, you're doing a ridiculously good job, cause Gini is fucking ace.

[Qston]

There was a glowing article in the Evening Standard of all places about our transfer business.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-transfers-jurgen-klopp-deadline-day-nabil-fekir-christian-pulisic-a3907071.html

And praise for achteberg on there as well

[No666]

Yes - interesting that Achteberg has been following, and recommending, Alisson since his Internacional days. Interesting, too, that the two ex-Bayern Munich staff members had nothing but praise for Shaqiri's character. Those details are entirely at odds with the public perception.

[Oberyn_Martell]

Near enough perfect. Well done to the entire team.

Obviously Fekir would probably have made it a 10/10 window but maybe we'll still get him in Jan. I think we just lack enough attacking depth but we've bridged the gap in a way nobody could have expected.
We have the best manager in the league who took us to a CL final. With this quality who knows what he can do!!

[mc_red22]

The transfer committee were the same personnel as are at the club now, more or less, minus Ayre and Rodgers. That probably indicates where the problems lay.

The problem was with everybody, not just one person. One of the big problems is when the input of everybody in such a mixed bag of people (job role wise)carries the same weight. The manager must not have been the only one having a say on who we buy when looking at some of our signings. Most of the personnel may be the same but there's been a drastic change in how the club operates now when it comes to transfers.

[No666]

As far as I can see, it's exactly the same template: the manager having the last word. But this manager is comfortable with the system rather than being threatened by it. The new 'finaliser' (Edwards rather than Ayre) then gets the deals done as quietly and efficiently as possible.

[elpistolero7]

I wanted two players with all my heart:

VVD and Alisson. He brought both of them.

Keita was another amawing buy.

We bought only players who are going to DRASTICALLY improve our first lineup.

We could have bought another CB and Fekir, but nobody is perfect.

I give him a 9.5/10, we have done fantastically well. Congrats Edward!

Strange to credit Hodgson, but to each their own.

[elpistolero7]

The problem was with everybody, not just one person. One of the big problems is when the input of everybody in such a mixed bag of people (job role wise)carries the same weight. The manager must not have been the only one having a say on who we buy when looking at some of our signings. Most of the personnel may be the same but there's been a drastic change in how the club operates now when it comes to transfers.

The biggest problem was the lack of pull. Without a big name manager and CL football, you just can't attract the right players. Even when we had CL football we couldn't get the right guys in under Rodgers.

We had VVD, Salah, Mane, Ox all sign without that great CL run having happened. The name of the club will only do so much, it has to be complimented by the quality of the manager and European football. Lucky for us, we have a great club with amazing history, one of the best managers around, and genuine pedigree in the CL. Massive turnaround in just 3 years, when we were spending 30 million on Benteke. Nightmare that was.

[TepidT2O]

The only points that count are league points...


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