Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread

[gazzalfc]

Not LFC related any more but still thought it deserved putting in here

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The Echo claim that Fiotentina have asked FIFA to allow them to terminate Bobby Duncan’s contract with the youngster expecting first-team football and the club not believing he deserves it.

Daniele Prade, their sporting director, said: “In his head, he wanted to play immediately with Fiorentina. We are seeing what to do with him...”

Duncan hasn’t played for Fiorentina’s U19 side in months and this news suggests he’ll never make the senior team either.

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Not LFC related any more but still thought it deserved putting in here

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The Echo claim that Fiotentina have asked FIFA to allow them to terminate Bobby Duncan’s contract with the youngster expecting first-team football and the club not believing he deserves it.

Daniele Prade, their sporting director, said: “In his head, he wanted to play immediately with Fiorentina. We are seeing what to do with him...”

Duncan hasn’t played for Fiorentina’s U19 side in months and this news suggests he’ll never make the senior team either.

So either City, Us and Fiorentina are wrong or he's just a nob

[Too early for flapjacks?]

Not LFC related any more but still thought it deserved putting in here

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The Echo claim that Fiotentina have asked FIFA to allow them to terminate Bobby Duncan’s contract with the youngster expecting first-team football and the club not believing he deserves it.

Daniele Prade, their sporting director, said: “In his head, he wanted to play immediately with Fiorentina. We are seeing what to do with him...”

Duncan hasn’t played for Fiorentina’s U19 side in months and this news suggests he’ll never make the senior team either.

Moving to Fiorentina made absolutely no sense what so ever. I could understand if he'd been offered the number 9 shirt at a Championship/League 1 club who’d just lost their main striker, but he was never going to get game time at Fiorentina. He’s not even close to that level. He doesn’t seem the smartest kid around and looks like he has some bad people advising him.

[cipher]

Scored some goals in the youth team and thought he was the next Sancho while also being badly directed by his advisors.  The kid needs to reset his expectations and realize it could take a couple of years to get where he wants to be.  if I was him, I'd try and find a Championship level team so he can get some game time and exposure instead of wasting time trying to prove he's better than first team regulars in some of the top leagues in the world.

[terry_macss_perm]

Not LFC related any more but still thought it deserved putting in here

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The Echo claim that Fiotentina have asked FIFA to allow them to terminate Bobby Duncan’s contract with the youngster expecting first-team football and the club not believing he deserves it.

Daniele Prade, their sporting director, said: “In his head, he wanted to play immediately with Fiorentina. We are seeing what to do with him...”

Duncan hasn’t played for Fiorentina’s U19 side in months and this news suggests he’ll never make the senior team either.

The Echo report last week suggested they only want to loan him out but need clarification if he can play for a third youth team in the one season, having turned out for us and Fiorentina already.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Scored some goals in the youth team and thought he was the next Sancho while also being badly directed by his advisors.  The kid needs to reset his expectations and realize it could take a couple of years to get where he wants to be.  if I was him, I'd try and find a Championship level team so he can get some game time and exposure instead of wasting time trying to prove he's better than first team regulars in some of the top leagues in the world.

I don't think he'd be close to making a Championship starting 11 to be honest. League 1 or League 2 would be his level at the moment if he is adamant about getting first team football.

[CraigDS]

It’s fucking hilarious he was moving for first team football and he’s not even got in their reserve side.

He’d have made his full debut for us this season if he stayed.

[farawayred]

Not LFC related any more but still thought it deserved putting in here

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The Echo claim that Fiotentina have asked FIFA to allow them to terminate Bobby Duncan’s contract with the youngster expecting first-team football and the club not believing he deserves it.

Daniele Prade, their sporting director, said: “In his head, he wanted to play immediately with Fiorentina. We are seeing what to do with him...”

Duncan hasn’t played for Fiorentina’s U19 side in months and this news suggests he’ll never make the senior team either.

He's got one of these fantastic agents, doesn't he? They are a special breed, making a lot of fuss about nothing to get their way, but that rarely works more than once or twice, they get found out. Except Mino Fucking Raiola, but he's one off among them.

[Rosario]

Quite funny the way things have unfolded for us and Duncan  really. If he’d have stayed would’ve be able to make multiple starts in proper cup competition and if he was as good as he and his agents seem to think he is and performed he would’ve put himself firmly in Klopp and the clubs long term plans going forward!

Weird decision by him and his advisers all round though if you want to make it straight into the first team at a young age this is as good a place to try as any. If you’re good enough you’re old enough under Klopp and that’s not always the case under other managers at top clubs.

[naYoRHa2b]

Haha. He done fucked up.

[Fromola]

Scored some goals in the youth team and thought he was the next Sancho while also being badly directed by his advisors.  The kid needs to reset his expectations and realize it could take a couple of years to get where he wants to be.  if I was him, I'd try and find a Championship level team so he can get some game time and exposure instead of wasting time trying to prove he's better than first team regulars in some of the top leagues in the world.

At least it helps the club explain to someone like Curtis Jones that Sancho is an outlier. There's a ton of Bobby Duncans. It was purely delusional to expect to be playing up front at a big Serie A club at 18. Maybe Michael Owen.

[ThePoolMan]

At least it helps the club explain to someone like Curtis Jones that Sancho is an outlier. There's a ton of Bobby Duncans. It was purely delusional to expect to be playing up front at a big Serie A club at 18. Maybe Michael Owen.

Duncan is going to pay the penalty for not being able to distinguish between hubris and confidence. 

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Duncan is going to pay the penalty for not being able to distinguish between hubris and confidence. 

I can, this is confidence here :-

[Coolie High]

At least it helps the club explain to someone like Curtis Jones that Sancho is an outlier. There's a ton of Bobby Duncans. It was purely delusional to expect to be playing up front at a big Serie A club at 18. Maybe Michael Owen.

No not really, Jones has always been a bigger talent more akin to Sancho and Foden than Duncan, he wouldn’t face the same problems.

[ElPayaso]

You think there's any way a regretful Bobby Duncan might end up back in our U23's? I don't think we'd go out of our way to get him but he's a decent prospect.

[CraigDS]

You think there's any way a regretful Bobby Duncan might end up back in our U23's? I don't think we'd go out of our way to get him but he's a decent prospect.

Nah, bridges burnt.

[HopefulRed]

Larouci subbed off injured in tonight’s U23 match which means Adam Lewis just might get his debut v Shrewsbury next Tuesday.  Maybe Tony G though is Lewis is still rusty.

[Lycan]

You think there's any way a regretful Bobby Duncan might end up back in our U23's? I don't think we'd go out of our way to get him but he's a decent prospect.

Wouldn't surprise me if he ended up at Everton.

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Umm did Elliot just score via an overhead kick from a corner? My eyes can't see it on instagram properly

[sminp]

He's got one of these fantastic agents, doesn't he? They are a special breed, making a lot of fuss about nothing to get their way, but that rarely works more than once or twice, they get found out. Except Mino Fucking Raiola, but he's one off among them.

He’s burnt through several agents. In this case I think it’s as much about Bobby’s bigheadedness as it is about a poor agent given the number he’s been through. Hopefully he can come to his senses and settle down otherwise he’ll never make the most of his abilities.

[Fordy]

Larouci subbed off injured in tonight’s U23 match which means Adam Lewis just might get his debut v Shrewsbury next Tuesday.  Maybe Tony G though is Lewis is still rusty.

It was a knock for Larouci.. depends how bad it is.

[Fordy]

Looks like the FA cup team will be:: Kelleher or Lonergan(Kelleher might go out on loan)Williams, Hoever, Van den Berg, Larouci or Lewis, Clarkson or Cain, Jones,  Chirivella, Elliott, Millar, Hardy.

Hardy must me buzzing. Joins about 2 weeks ago and abaout to play for Liverpool 1st team at Anfield.

In fact all the parents for the under 23's under 18's must be buzzing and proud.

[duvva 💅]

Umm did Elliot just score via an overhead kick from a corner? My eyes can't see it on instagram properly

Sounds like it’s worth a watch this goal

[SinceSixtyFive]

Sounds like it’s worth a watch this goal

Been posted in his thread but here you go -

https://twitter.com/StatmanJoey/status/1222613753004482560?s=20

[duvva 💅]

Been posted in his thread but here you go -

https://twitter.com/StatmanJoey/status/1222613753004482560?s=20

Cheers. Very nice finish. Hope for more of the same vs Shrewsbury

[GIPPO77]

Sensational finish from Harvey.

[ElPayaso]

Looks like the FA cup team will be:: Kelleher or Lonergan(Kelleher might go out on loan)Williams, Hoever, Van den Berg, Larouci or Lewis, Clarkson or Cain, Jones,  Chirivella, Elliott, Millar, Hardy.

Hardy must me buzzing. Joins about 2 weeks ago and abaout to play for Liverpool 1st team at Anfield.

In fact all the parents for the under 23's under 18's must be buzzing and proud.

I think Elijah Dixon-Bonner should feature as well, but maybe Clarkson is ahead of him now. I like EDB but he's a tough one to place.

[MD1990]

He’s burnt through several agents. In this case I think it’s as much about Bobby’s bigheadedness as it is about a poor agent given the number he’s been through. Hopefully he can come to his senses and settle down otherwise he’ll never make the most of his abilities.

He isnt that good at all.
Playing in good youth sides means he picks up some goals. But he has little to his game. Np pace,strength, or outstand techique.

He make it in League 1 if he is lucky.

[Fromola]

He isnt that good at all.
Playing in good youth sides means he picks up some goals. But he has little to his game. Np pace,strength, or outstand techique.

He make it in League 1 if he is lucky.

He thought he was the next Sancho (and wanted it all now in the process) rather than the next Adam Morgan. He needs to read up on Morgan's story for a much needed reality check.

[Fordy]

He thought he was the next Sancho (and wanted it all now in the process) rather than the next Adam Morgan. He needs to read up on Morgan's story for a much needed reality check.

Looks like Sunderland want to sign him on loan.

Edit Sunderland pulled out. Bobby stays where he is.

[terry_macss_perm]

Been reading a lot of good things about the lad Stewart. Anyone know more about him?

I said he was from Wallasey which appears to be wrong. the official site says he’s from Liverpool and an interview online recently says Knowsley.

[Redcap]

So who's the next big thing after Elliott? Have we got anyone likely at the moment?

[IanZG]

So who's the next big thing after Elliott? Have we got anyone likely at the moment?

Given that Elliott's not 17 years old yet, don't think the next one is legally allowed to be talked about on the internet.

[smurfinaus]

do we have any pacey forward/winger types in the youth teams atm?.

[mallin9]

Given that Elliott's not 17 years old yet, don't think the next one is legally allowed to be talked about on the internet.

Seen any likely looking sonograms doc?

[RogerTheRed]

I see 23’s play Arsenal today and there is no 18’s game. Line up will be interesting to see if many are rested before Shrewsbury match.
Also, hope to see Jones not involved today at Anfield so he stays and captains on Tuesday.

[Fordy]

I see 23’s play Arsenal today and there is no 18’s game. Line up will be interesting to see if many are rested before Shrewsbury match.
Also, hope to see Jones not involved today at Anfield so he stays and captains on Tuesday.

Well Lallana is back so I think he will be on the bench, maybe ahead of Jones.

Think a lot of the Under 18's will play for the Under 23's then. We can't really afford to risk injury considering the cup game is on Tuesday

[So… Howard Philips]

Well Lallana is back so I think he will be on the bench, maybe ahead of Jones.

Think a lot of the Under 18's will play for the Under 23's then. We can't really afford to risk injury considering the cup game is on turpentine

Turpentine? Is that our PED of choice these days?

[Fordy]

Turpentine? Is that our PED of choice these days?

Ha ha my bloody iPhone

[Chris~]

do we have any pacey forward/winger types in the youth teams atm?.

Not really, no. Closest to what you describe is Liam Miller. We've really not produced any stand out wingers/wide forwards since the 96/97 group.