Topic: The Nathaniel Clyne Experience

[Chrismonster]

As if a player like Clyne is going to choose Cardiff over Bournemouth!! I'm sure if Colin Wanker was being honest with himself, he'd understand that too.

PS HAHAHA.. That name change!!!!

 

[number 168]

Warnock hates Rafa and Liverpool by association. He thinks that Rafa fielding a weakened team (in Warnock's eyes) was the reason Sheffield United got relegated, forgetting he was in charge for the whole season. The bell end even claimed Rafa was trying to sue him for saying so. His team got beaten by Gillingham so he needs something to deflect from his ineptitude.

[RedForeverTT]

Warnock hates Rafa and Liverpool by association. He thinks that Rafa fielding a weakened team (in Warnock's eyes) was the reason Sheffield United got relegated, forgetting he was in charge for the whole season. The bell end even claimed Rafa was trying to sue him for saying so. His team got beaten by Gillingham so he needs something to deflect from his ineptitude.

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

[Djimi Smicer34]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

Nonsense.

Why is it down to us to tell Cardiff and Warnock that Clyne didn't want to go there?  Warnock claims he's got a relationship with the player and it's up to the player and his representatives to look at the offers they get and decide what to do about them.  Warnock's issue is with Clyne, he's just got some weird little chip on his shoulder when it comes to Liverpool so he wants to blame us for it, like he blames us for getting him and Sheffield United relegated.

[classycarra]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

Wouldn't take the miserable little man's word on anything to be fair though. And who's to say the club decided against calling him on a Friday night when they had a game on at midday Saturday, and that they'd communicate after.

[Gerry Attrick]

Colin Wanker acting like a wanker. If you saw that coming you're a genius.

[Djimi Smicer34]

His little outburst has gotten more coverage than Cardiff getting knocked out of the FA Cup by a League One club.

It's obvious what Warnock's game is here and it's worked out for him. 

[didi shamone]

We don' know what the deal is with Camacho and Hangover is supposed to an elite level younger. If Klopp wanted to go with youth then that wouldn't be a bad plan because it would mean there would be a clear path to the first team and you could use the funds saved in other areas.

Not sure about Camacho but I hope the other lad doesn't linger.

[El Lobo]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

It sounds like we actually let them know that he could move there, so even better 

[Chakan]

I’m sure it’s Rafa’s fault somehow

[Dim Glas]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

No one knows how Liverpool dealt with this. Every chance the deal wasn't anywhere near as far along as Warnock thought it was, and no decision had been made.

[jillcwhomever]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

His team have just crashed out of the FA Cup, its nothing but an effort to take attention away from that.

[Hazell]

No one knows how Liverpool dealt with this. Every chance the deal wasn't anywhere near as far along as Warnock thought it was, and no decision had been made.

Or, what I'm hoping is, we deliberately strung Warnock along, just to piss him off.

[redmark]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

What we don't know, though, is the facts behind him being "promised" the player. That's not really how transfers work. Either we had an agreement with Cardiff, or we didn't. If what actually happened was that he expressed an interest and we said he could talk to the player, but Clyne signed for Bournemouth before he got round to it - well, tough.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

Maybe we agreed before he decided to slag Mo off again.

Lack of class my arse.

[Ratboy3G]

Rumours today Palace want Clyne to replace Bissaka, I'd like to keep him obviously as he can cover either side but if he wants first team football then I hope we get a good price from Palace knowing how much they have just got from United.

[Believe]

Would be a nice move to end his career where it started. Hope it happens for him.

[El Lobo]

Noooooooooo

[deFacto please, you bastards]

How did we win the 6th without him?

[Ratboy3G]

How did we win the 6th without him?

Obviously we'd have won the league as well if we'd not loaned him to Bournemouth 😉

[RedSandgrounder]

If Palace offer decent money for Clyne then it makes sense to let him go, but I have a feeling he may stay in the same way Sturridge did this last season.

Firstly he'll be on a good wage here, which I doubt anyone else will be able to meet. We could really do with cover at left back and right back, which Clyne provides, and he's out of contract next summer. I think it makes sense for him to stay with us, knowing he will get a fair amount of playing time in the cups, a real chance of picking up a few medals with us before he leaves. He's only 28 still, so it's not like the clock is ticking that fast for him.

Then he gets his choice of club next summer to go and get the playing time he wants along with a big wedge of a signing on fee.

[Dim Glas]

I'd be very surprised if Clyne stays. Reckon the club will actively be trying to shift him too. 

[redgriffin73]

Considering he actively wanted to go out on loan for more games in January when he could have stayed and (as it turned out) get a CL medal, I'd be surprised if he chose to stay now if he got the chance of first team action elsewhere.

[Tobelius]

Yeah,it's clear he wants to go and we're happy to let him if we get a good offer.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Would be a really good fit for the way Palace play. They'll not miss Wan Bissaka. Defensive set up, not expected to do anything going forward.

[zero zero]

The thing is if we never called a club to tell them their offer has been refused is wrong on our part. I thought we are more classy than that.

I get pissed off with job agents not returning calls after speaking with me so this is no different. Although being Colin Wanker, I will say to Liverpool FC, well done.

Apparently we did notify Colin by email.

To: Colin Wanker
From: Michael Edwards

Re: Nathaniel Clyne

Dear Colin,



The deal's off. As in Sod.

Kind Regards,

Michael

[Mighty_Red]

The deal's off. As in Sod.

I have very little time for Clyne or for anyone who doesn't want to be part of this adventure, so might as well let him go and invest in someone who wants to be here.

I know Sturridge came back, but he knuckled down and worked hard to get back into the squad and his quality meant we would always give him another chance.

[Redcap]

Clyne is just not a good fit in the squad anymore. We have not one but three players who can do a defensive shift at RB (Fab, Gomez, Milly), and Clyne doesn't add a great deal beyond what those can do in a pinch. Similar to the situation at LB, he would have been better served if he was a right winger who could put in a defensive shift than a right back who can't attack.

[clinical]

I'm surprised there's not much reported interest in him. £12m for experienced right back. Surely Palace would be mad not to get him and use wan-bissaka money elsewhere?

[Giono]

I'm surprised there's not much reported interest in him. £12m for experienced right back. Surely Palace would be mad not to get him and use wan-bissaka money elsewhere?

He was out injured for considerable time.

Did he get much playing time at Bournemouth?

[mc_red22]

He was out injured for considerable time.

Did he get much playing time at Bournemouth?

Yeah he played loads.

[Schmidt]

Clyne is just not a good fit in the squad anymore. We have not one but three players who can do a defensive shift at RB (Fab, Gomez, Milly), and Clyne doesn't add a great deal beyond what those can do in a pinch. Similar to the situation at LB, he would have been better served if he was a right winger who could put in a defensive shift than a right back who can't attack.

Milner and Gomez have looked consistently poor at right back, despite both having good stints at left back. Milner just doesn't have the ability to change direction needed to deal with fast attackers and Gomez seems to get lost a weird amount for a naturally defensive player.

We could really do with another Arbeloa in the squad.

[Gods_Left_Boot]

He's been consistently healthy for several months now. He might not be the best fit for the way our fullbacks play, but he can be a dependable, versatile backup who can play both flanks. If Jurgen and the club convince him to stay, I'd definitely keep him.

[Fromola]

If he stays he's good back up for both full back positions. If he goes then we haven't got any cover for either full back without moving players out of position. Not to mention games like Leicester at home where we were messing round with Henderson at right back when Clyne would have done a solid job and allowed us to use Henderson in his natural role.

If he stays fit he'd get plenty of game time. If he goes then he's signing his one last main contract at some mid table club and isn't really going to achieve anything. He must look on with a bit of envy at the CL win as he could have had a medal, been in that photo, been on the bus etc, even if he didn't get on in the final. If he stays another year here before he moves on it's his last chance of success and silverware, realistically.

[El Lobo]

If he stays he's good back up for both full back positions. If he goes then we haven't got any cover for either full back without moving players out of position.

If he stays fit he'd get plenty of game time. If he goes then he's signing his one last main contract at some mid table club and isn't really going to achieve anything. He must look on with a bit of envy at the CL win as he could have had a medal, been in that photo, been on the bus etc, even if he didn't get on in the final. If he stays another year here before he moves on it's his last chance of success and silverware, realistically.

Not sure what that’s based on. He’s our second ‘out and out’ right back and yet I’d guess he’s about 4th/5th choice there. If he chose to stay I can’t see him getting much game time at all.

[Fromola]

Not sure what that’s based on. He’s our second ‘out and out’ right back and yet I’d guess he’s about 4th/5th choice there. If he chose to stay I can’t see him getting much game time at all.

We're playing in 7 competitions next season. If Clyne is fully fit I don't see why he wouldn't be second choice right back and at least 3rd choice left back. Okay he might be competiting with Gomez but Gomez is a centre back and also got a bad injury record and we don't really want to be using midfielders there if we can avoid it.

Okay he could go to Bournemouth or Palace and got 30 games or he could stay here and get 15-20 and have a good chance at winning a few trophies.

[CraigDS]

Not sure what that’s based on. He’s our second ‘out and out’ right back and yet I’d guess he’s about 4th/5th choice there. If he chose to stay I can’t see him getting much game time at all.

He came straight into the side vs United at home after being injured (when TAA was injured), starting ahead of Henderson who was on the bench & Milner. Played the full 90 too.

I think if he was able to stay fit he's a better option there than both Henderson or Milner, but not entirely sure about Gomez, but the main issue is he 100% wants to be a starter somewhere and not a back up, which he will be here.

[Fromola]

He came straight into the side vs United at home after being injured (when TAA was injured), starting ahead of Henderson who was on the bench & Milner. Played the full 90 too.

I think if he was able to stay fit he's a better option there than both Henderson or Milner, but not entirely sure about Gomez, but the main issue is he 100% wants to be a starter somewhere and not a back up, which he will be here.

Which is fair enough, but he could leave on a bosman next year at 29 with a potential league title or CL medal (or at least 1 or 2 of the other 5 trophies we're playing for) and get a good last payday somewhere else. Or he could leave now and spend the rest of his career in mid table.

[CraigDS]

Which is fair enough, but he could leave on a bosman next year at 29 with a potential league title or CL medal (or at least 1 or 2 of the other 5 trophies we're playing for) and get a good last payday somewhere else. Or he could leave now and spend the rest of his career in mid table.

Agreed, however I wouldn't begrudge a player putting playing the vast majority of the time over winning something you only play a handful of times in. Fair play to him.

Personally unless we got a really decent fee which would allow us to replace him I'd keep him, but I doubt we will.

[Fromola]

Agreed, however I wouldn't begrudge a player putting playing the vast majority of the time over winning something you only play a handful of times in. Fair play to him.

Nor would I, but in terms of the club selling the idea of staying to him, then there's a good pitch. He's never won anything in his career, a stack of runners up medals with Liverpool. He's got the chance to put that right next season before he moves on. We saw the CL celebrations how everyone felt a part of it, even if weren't on the pitch in the final.

Sturridge didn't feature much last season but he got on the pitch and made key contributions and so could Clyne. Sturridge got his medal before moving on after all the near misses. And not just that but if he really backs himself then he could win the shirt back.

Personally unless we got a really decent fee which would allow us to replace him I'd keep him, but I doubt we will.

Then he needs to be properly replaced. Not just moving players out of position all season to cover. I don't mind which one it is but it has to be one or the other (keep Clyne or properly replace him).