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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #440 on: March 7, 2024, 01:57:32 pm »
I think it was emailed to hundreds of journalists.

Wow...
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #441 on: March 7, 2024, 02:12:27 pm »
From an employment law perspective, Red Bull's case is likely to be that the Grievance Policy and Procedure was followed, it was found to be not upheld, and there has now been a breach of privacy and confidentiality with the potential/alleged leaks to other teams and the papers, leading to a potential breakdown in confidence in the employer/employee relationship.

On the allegations against Horner themselves, whether you think there's much in the content of the messages that he sent or not, the fact remains that he is in an extremely senior and powerful position at Red Bull and therefore his behaviour towards a junior member of staff is unacceptable. The optics aren't fantastic here from Red Bull.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #442 on: March 7, 2024, 02:29:01 pm »
If she leaked it then her position has to come under question too (Excuse the pun, christian dont get excited)

however it is not a good look if she is suspended and Horner gets off scot free
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #443 on: March 7, 2024, 02:42:16 pm »
I mean, I'm not even sure what Horner is guilty of apart from possibly having an affair based on the evidence we have seen. Everyone is just assuming the man is guilty and the woman is innocent in all of this. Have we not learned from the Amber Heard case to make judgments based on stereotypes? The woman was pretty much in a consenting relationship from all the texts I have seen, not forced or blackmailed or anything. It's not like this is the Vince McMahon case.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #444 on: March 7, 2024, 02:51:34 pm »
The leaked messages he is constantly pestering her for pictures and asking what she wears etc

also pretty much says he wanked off on a plane about her

Whole thing is a mess anyway
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #445 on: March 7, 2024, 02:52:12 pm »
I mean, I'm not even sure what Horner is guilty of apart from possibly having an affair based on the evidence we have seen. Everyone is just assuming the man is guilty and the woman is innocent in all of this. Have we not learned from the Amber Heard case to make judgments based on stereotypes? The woman was pretty much in a consenting relationship from all the texts I have seen, not forced or blackmailed or anything. It's not like this is the Vince McMahon case.

What evidence have you seen?

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #446 on: March 7, 2024, 02:57:35 pm »
The two top stories on BBC sport:

"Woman who accused Horner suspended by Red Bull"

"Verstappen fastest in Saudi GP first practice"


A sport with many issues......

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #447 on: March 7, 2024, 03:03:25 pm »
I mean, I'm not even sure what Horner is guilty of apart from possibly having an affair based on the evidence we have seen. Everyone is just assuming the man is guilty and the woman is innocent in all of this. Have we not learned from the Amber Heard case to make judgments based on stereotypes? The woman was pretty much in a consenting relationship from all the texts I have seen, not forced or blackmailed or anything. It's not like this is the Vince McMahon case.

The main point from this is he,'s a senior manager who should know better than go pesrering a junior member of the team. Or perhaps you think it's something he should be able to do. 🙄
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #448 on: March 7, 2024, 03:06:26 pm »
The two top stories on BBC sport:

"Woman who accused Horner suspended by Red Bull"

"Verstappen fastest in Saudi GP first practice"


A sport with many issues......

Its certainly a fitting backdrop

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #449 on: March 7, 2024, 05:54:25 pm »
If she leaked it then her position has to come under question too (Excuse the pun, christian dont get excited)

however it is not a good look if she is suspended and Horner gets off scot free

It looks absolutely awful for Red Bull which to me means there must have been a very good why they suspended her, forget the Red Bull F1 team, the Red Bull brand has suffered already and is now suffering more if the alleged victim of sexual harassment has been suspended so I can only see that happening as a last resort for Red Bull because something big has come up.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #450 on: March 7, 2024, 06:14:53 pm »
changing the price of something while you're wating to pay for it due to their own slowness is pretty fucking scandalous really.

I watch quite a few sports, and have attended pretty much all of them at some point, but never f1. not sure why but something about it just doesn't really appeal to me.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #451 on: March 7, 2024, 06:47:14 pm »
The main point from this is he,'s a senior manager who should know better than go pesrering a junior member of the team. Or perhaps you think it's something he should be able to do. 🙄

I may have missed it but has Horner ever said at any point that the text messages have nothing to do with him?  Not me guvnor.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #452 on: March 7, 2024, 11:01:09 pm »
He should resign or take a sabbaticalSimple as.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #453 on: March 8, 2024, 07:25:05 am »
I may have missed it but has Horner ever said at any point that the text messages have nothing to do with him?  Not me guvnor.
No.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #454 on: March 8, 2024, 07:31:30 am »
I mean, I'm not even sure what Horner is guilty of apart from possibly having an affair based on the evidence we have seen. Everyone is just assuming the man is guilty and the woman is innocent in all of this. Have we not learned from the Amber Heard case to make judgments based on stereotypes? The woman was pretty much in a consenting relationship from all the texts I have seen, not forced or blackmailed or anything. It's not like this is the Vince McMahon case.
He is her boss, at the very least it is unprofessional and a fireable offense in many companies. If the texts are to be believed he continued to solicit her for sex after she ended the relationship.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #455 on: March 8, 2024, 09:28:00 am »
He is her boss, at the very least it is unprofessional and a fireable offense in many companies. If the texts are to be believed he continued to solicit her for sex after she ended the relationship.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/jun/02/johnny-depp-amber-heard-libel-outcomes-differ-us-uk
The Johnny Depp case proved WHY women can't win against a beloved wealthy man. The entire case was showmanship and her lawyers were incompetent. Depp has multiple assault cases and claims against him, some of which he admitted. He is no victim. Neither is Horny.
I’m not sure how you can be so certain in a case like this, it’s sounds like at least one of them was

On another note, is it a qualifying day today?
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #456 on: March 8, 2024, 09:34:43 am »
Depp has multiple assault cases and claims against him, some of which he admitted. He is no victim

Not to derail the discussion, but that's a really poor comparison. Anything Depp did or didn't do previously was irrelevant to the case. I'm sure some of the things Heard accused Depp of may have happened, but she was a dreadful witness and got caught telling lies at numerous times during the trial and it destroyed her credibility as a witness. Heard and Depp were as bad as each other.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #457 on: March 8, 2024, 10:22:08 am »
Not to derail the discussion, but that's a really poor comparison. Anything Depp did or didn't do previously was irrelevant to the case. I'm sure some of the things Heard accused Depp of may have happened, but she was a dreadful witness and got caught telling lies at numerous times during the trial and it destroyed her credibility as a witness. Heard and Depp were as bad as each other.
The entire US court case was a clown show, and both came off terribly. However she's the one that gets mocked because she dared to accuse a very popular man of being a scumbag. When he so obviously is, and a UK judge agreed with her.

Anyway I digress, RBR are a clown show but at least something is interesting while Max rides off into the dust.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #458 on: March 8, 2024, 10:52:26 am »
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #459 on: March 8, 2024, 10:57:22 am »
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #460 on: March 8, 2024, 11:13:39 am »
I’m not sure how you can be so certain in a case like this, it’s sounds like at least one of them was

On another note, is it a qualifying day today?

5pm qualifying. Everyone watching will be preying Verstappen fucks up somehow.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #461 on: March 8, 2024, 11:34:47 am »
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Carlos Sainz has been diagnosed with appendicitis and requires surgery, Ferrari say. He will be replaced by reserve driver, Briton Oliver Bearman, for the rest of the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #462 on: March 8, 2024, 11:38:44 am »
Jeez him putting his torso through those g forces yesterday doesn't look so smart now

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #463 on: March 8, 2024, 11:50:00 am »
Australia's two weeks away, does Sainz make it back for that?  Hopefully the surgery goes better than what happened to Alex Albon, I just re-read some of what happened to him and it seems a lot scarier than I remember.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #464 on: March 8, 2024, 12:08:31 pm »
Australia's two weeks away, does Sainz make it back for that?  Hopefully the surgery goes better than what happened to Alex Albon, I just re-read some of what happened to him and it seems a lot scarier than I remember.
did his scars split or something?

Random one but in 1995 I think Andrea Montermini driving for Pacific GP raced about a week after his op

Mika Hakkinen had his done later in season too
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #465 on: March 8, 2024, 12:17:16 pm »
What an opportunity for Bearman though. If he does well they've got to parachute him into a Haas seat.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #466 on: March 8, 2024, 12:20:48 pm »
did his scars split or something?
He had to be ventilated because he suffered respiratory failure post-anaesthetic.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #467 on: March 8, 2024, 01:04:47 pm »
youngest ferrari driver ever apparently so, fair play.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #468 on: March 8, 2024, 01:07:43 pm »
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #469 on: March 8, 2024, 01:32:23 pm »
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Carlos Sainz has been diagnosed with appendicitis and requires surgery, Ferrari say. He will be replaced by reserve driver, Briton Oliver Bearman, for the rest of the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix
That sucks, wish him well. Carlos is having the shittiest start to 2024.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #470 on: March 8, 2024, 01:33:29 pm »
Bearman!! The latest super hero with the power of being able to sniff a picnic from over 20-miles away.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #471 on: March 8, 2024, 01:50:12 pm »
Bearman!! The latest super hero with the power of being able to sniff a picnic from over 20-miles away.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #472 on: March 8, 2024, 01:52:14 pm »
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Carlos Sainz has been diagnosed with appendicitis and requires surgery, Ferrari say. He will be replaced by reserve driver, Briton Oliver Bearman, for the rest of the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix

I wish Carlos all the best having appendicitis is no fun at all.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #473 on: March 8, 2024, 02:07:48 pm »
I wish Carlos all the best having appendicitis is no fun at all.

I dunno. Call it the Appendix Challenge and stick it on TikTok and the kids'll fucking love it.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #474 on: March 8, 2024, 02:16:34 pm »
red flag in practise, Zhou has spun into a wall.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #475 on: March 8, 2024, 02:18:02 pm »
red flag in practise, Zhou has spun into a wall.
Proper binned it, wonder how tough it'll be to rebuild it before quali.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #476 on: March 8, 2024, 02:55:31 pm »
He had to be ventilated because he suffered respiratory failure post-anaesthetic.
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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #477 on: March 8, 2024, 02:59:04 pm »


well that won't buff out.

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Re: Formula 1 2024 season
« Reply #478 on: March 8, 2024, 04:03:08 pm »
Even the F2 race has ‘VER’ in 1st position as Richard Verschoor leads the spring
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« Reply #479 on: March 8, 2024, 05:31:03 pm »
at best that's a procedural fuck-up. I noticed a car off the track when russell went past and the yellow (the red) didn't come out until over a minute later on.