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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #600 on: February 10, 2015, 04:47:32 pm »
What has the Dutch national team got to do with playing Spurs tonight?

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #601 on: February 10, 2015, 04:48:09 pm »
Has the team been leaked yet?

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #602 on: February 10, 2015, 04:48:27 pm »
Keeper and back as normal for me then...


Ibe   Henderson   Allen   Markovic

   Lallana                    Coutinho

                 Sturridge


Ibe is cuptied on Saturday so should play, Markovic should be rested from the weekend. I don't think Sturridge presses as well as Sterling so we need Lallana in there with Gerrard missing out

Ibe   Henderson   Allen   Moreno

   Lallana                    Coutinho

                 Sturridge

Keep Markovich/Gerrard as options to change the game for us, I would probably have Balotelli on the bench for this one too

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #603 on: February 10, 2015, 04:50:57 pm »
Has the team been leaked yet?

Markovic coutinho Sturridge front 3.
same defence
Ibe and Moreno wing backs
Not sure who's starting next to Henderson, Allen or Gerrard

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #604 on: February 10, 2015, 04:51:20 pm »
Has the team been leaked yet?
So the "rumoured" side is?

----------------------Mignolet

-----------Can--------Skrtel---------Sakho

Ibe--------Henderson-----Gerrard---------Moreno

-----------Coutinho-------------Markovic

----------------------Sturridge

I'd still have gone for Allen over Gerrard and possibly Lallana over Moreno (with Markovic at LWB)!

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #605 on: February 10, 2015, 04:51:50 pm »
Has the team been leaked yet?

Mignolet
Can Skrtel Sakho
Ibe Henderson Gerrard (or Allen) Moreno
Markovic Coutinho
Sturridge

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #606 on: February 10, 2015, 04:51:56 pm »
What has the Dutch national team got to do with playing Spurs tonight?
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #607 on: February 10, 2015, 04:52:12 pm »
Quite sad and pertinent that Balotelli doesnt feature in anyone plans. Is he injured?

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #608 on: February 10, 2015, 04:54:05 pm »
Quite sad and pertinent that Balotelli doesnt feature in anyone plans. Is he injured?

He should be at least on the bench today... Ridiculous that Lambert was on the bench the last times will he was at home...

Really hope he is on the bench

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #609 on: February 10, 2015, 04:54:42 pm »
I'm going to add to this Markovic playing in the front 3 debate.

Honestly, if that is where he is playing, it's going to be a struggle. He's been really poor in the games against Bolton and West Ham. Eventually, he may well prove to be a good front 3 player, but if you're going to have him in the team then play him at RWB, and play Ibe in the front 3. The miss against West Ham was truly shocking, and I know he's scored a couple this season but he doesn't seem to have much confidence at all in front of goal.
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #610 on: February 10, 2015, 04:54:57 pm »
In terms of creativity, Markovic has a pretty respectable key pass and chance creation rate. Aren't those big factors of creativity? That's what I associate with the term anyway. For me, I look at those stats and think he might offer even more further up

Yes and no. Key passes can be creative, but essentially "Creativity" in football is the creation of space where it didn't exist before, usually on the ball, but also with runs too. Markovic has all the attributes to be every bit as dangerous as Sterling or Coutinho, but he doesn't take on half as many players as he should. That's a better mark of creativity than a passing statistic, as a key pass could be any basic pass that creates a goal scoring situation. Ibe offers more in that sense, because he is more willing to take players on. Markovic could certainly be excellent at that too, but he doesn't seem to take the responsibility, although that might be a function of having more defensive duties, and maybe he fears putting his defenders under pressure when he loses the ball.
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #611 on: February 10, 2015, 04:55:34 pm »
What has the Dutch national team got to do with playing Spurs tonight?

Some cheeky twat of a Dutch lad slating Markovic and said Jaap Stam and Reggie Blinker were better or something.

John Motson said "Count your world cups before you start on here, you pot smoking shithouses"

Al Murray said "Who won the fucking war eh, you lederhosen wearing tulip growing fucknuggets!?"

And I said, we're gonna twat these c*nts tonight. I'm not sure if Liverpool are playing Spurs and England are playing Holland, but I was only referring to the former. I make no predictions for International friendlies.
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #612 on: February 10, 2015, 05:03:29 pm »
Some cheeky twat of a Dutch lad slating Markovic and said Jaap Stam and Reggie Blinker were better or something.

John Motson said "Count your world cups before you start on here, you pot smoking shithouses"

Al Murray said "Who won the fucking war eh, you lederhosen wearing tulip growing fucknuggets!?"

And I said, we're gonna twat these c*nts tonight. I'm not sure if Liverpool are playing Spurs and England are playing Holland, but I was only referring to the former. I make no predictions for International friendlies.

Oh right, thanks for clearing that up for me mate. ;D

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #613 on: February 10, 2015, 05:04:43 pm »
Have to agree with all of that. For me Markovic so far has been underwhelming. Never saw anything of him before playing for us so there might be something there but at the moment he just looks a little lightweight and almost scared to do anything. Can't really fault his effort though.

His best moment was the 10 minutes in the CL game before getting sent off. Maybe that is a glimpse of what he can do. He is still young and probably needs to work on his physical side - maybe that would give him some extra confidence.

Anyway need to win this game.

This was extremely evident in his earlier matches but he has shown signs of gambling a bit more. I do want to see him take on players more though. However, he has also often busted a gut to support an attack but either remained unseen or unused even when he was probably the best option. If he does get a chance to start in the front three hopefully we see him emerge a little bit as in theory he has less defensive duties to worry about.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #614 on: February 10, 2015, 05:04:55 pm »
Mignolet
Can Skrtel Sakho
Ibe Henderson Gerrard (or Allen) Moreno
Markovic Coutinho
Sturridge

I hope it's not Gerrard - Henderson.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #615 on: February 10, 2015, 05:06:47 pm »


I'm concerned if it Gerrard in the middle. :-\ He's been a passenger that last two games against Bolton and Everton.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #616 on: February 10, 2015, 05:12:43 pm »
If Gerrard is starting tonight I'll be worried myself. Henderson is never the same when Stevie plays either. Tonight’s game is huge if we have any passengers we could be in trouble. Glad to see Ibe keep his place.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #617 on: February 10, 2015, 05:14:06 pm »
I'm concerned if it Gerrard in the middle. :-\ He's been a passenger that last two games against Bolton and Everton.

Seems like the team news is just guess work by chancers recently. Had Sturridge nailed on starting the derby some of them.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #618 on: February 10, 2015, 05:14:32 pm »
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #619 on: February 10, 2015, 05:16:21 pm »
Markovic is still finding his way here, he is still playing within himself and generally deferring to other players instead of making things happen himself the way it looks like he can do. Having been played mostly at RWB lately hasn't helped in getting him to be more comfortable playing his own game either, he has more responsibility there and has to make more decisions about when to go and when to hold, how to transition intelligently without leaving the RCB in the lurch.

Brendan's thinking may be that having him in the two behind the striker will simplify things in his mind and allow him to play his more natural game, as well as to carry the ball in a very direct manner during quick counters, which we know is his strong suit. In terms of on the ball creativity, he's used to being able to beat defenders with speed rather than skill, and has found it difficult to replicate in the English game where spaces are tighter. I think his passing vision is decent, when he knows before receipt of the ball that it needs to be a one touch pass, he does it very well, and he has shown glimpses of good medium-long pass vision. He just needs to improve on beating one man and finding the pass, he has a tendency for the directness he uses to beat one man leading him into getting challenged by the supporting defender before he can get the ball off of his feet.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #620 on: February 10, 2015, 05:17:24 pm »


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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #621 on: February 10, 2015, 05:17:39 pm »


However, he has also often busted a gut to support an attack but either remained unseen or unused even when he was probably the best option. If he does get a chance to start in the front three hopefully we see him emerge a little bit as in theory he has less defensive duties to worry about.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #622 on: February 10, 2015, 05:24:42 pm »
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #623 on: February 10, 2015, 05:24:49 pm »
Some cheeky twat of a Dutch lad slating Markovic and said Jaap Stam and Reggie Blinker were better or something.

John Motson said "Count your world cups before you start on here, you pot smoking shithouses"

Al Murray said "Who won the fucking war eh, you lederhosen wearing tulip growing fucknuggets!?"

And I said, we're gonna twat these c*nts tonight. I'm not sure if Liverpool are playing Spurs and England are playing Holland, but I was only referring to the former. I make no predictions for International friendlies.
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #625 on: February 10, 2015, 05:35:28 pm »
I reckon we'll win like. 
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #626 on: February 10, 2015, 05:39:57 pm »
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #628 on: February 10, 2015, 05:42:13 pm »
I think we are in for a frustrating night and a draw. Hope to fuck I am wrong, cos a win would be immense.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #629 on: February 10, 2015, 05:42:57 pm »
He should be at least on the bench today... Ridiculous that Lambert was on the bench the last times will he was at home...

Really hope he is on the bench

It's like he doesn't even play for us anymore and if that's the case you have to question why he wasn't off loaded in the jan window.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #630 on: February 10, 2015, 05:43:02 pm »
I really hope we don't see Gerrard in the starting 11 tonight.  He's played the full 90 in both the previous games and has been a passenger.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #631 on: February 10, 2015, 05:45:15 pm »
The most common pre-match post is "I hope SG doesn't partner Hendo in the middle"!

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #632 on: February 10, 2015, 05:46:59 pm »
I think we are in for a frustrating night and a draw. Hope to fuck I am wrong, cos a win would be immense.

I have the same sentiments. Think it will be another draw. Don't see them beating us,m but at the same time not so sure if wil beat them either.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #633 on: February 10, 2015, 05:47:06 pm »
Melwood Muzza ‏@The_jamin 15m15 minutes ago

For those waiting to know, team tonight is....Mignolet, Can, Skrtel, Sakho, Ibe, Henderson, Gerrard, Moreno, Markovic, Coutinho, Sturridge


Pray for Hendo lads.
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #634 on: February 10, 2015, 05:47:10 pm »
This was extremely evident in his earlier matches but he has shown signs of gambling a bit more. I do want to see him take on players more though. However, he has also often busted a gut to support an attack but either remained unseen or unused even when he was probably the best option. If he does get a chance to start in the front three hopefully we see him emerge a little bit as in theory he has less defensive duties to worry about.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #635 on: February 10, 2015, 05:47:14 pm »
The most common pre-match post is "I hope SG doesn't partner Hendo in the middle"!

For good reason.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #636 on: February 10, 2015, 05:49:49 pm »
Melwood Muzza ‏@The_jamin 15m15 minutes ago

For those waiting to know, team tonight is....Mignolet, Can, Skrtel, Sakho, Ibe, Henderson, Gerrard, Moreno, Markovic, Coutinho, Sturridge


Pray for Hendo lads.

If that's the case then I think we'll lose the battle in the middle and there'll be a lot of pressure on our backline.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #637 on: February 10, 2015, 05:51:15 pm »
For good reason.

He'll score tonight then.
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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #638 on: February 10, 2015, 05:51:44 pm »
If that's the case then I think we'll lose the battle in the middle and there'll be a lot of pressure on our backline.

Luckily, it's the first time in a while that we've got a backline that is capable of withstanding some pressure for once.

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Re: Liverpool vs Tottenham - Pre Match Thread (Tuesday 10th Feb, 8pm)
« Reply #639 on: February 10, 2015, 05:53:26 pm »
I haven't really seen much of Tottenham this season. Do they still play with that high defensive line?