Topic: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May

[QC]

It's why most people on here criticised Arsenal for going for the 0-0 snooze fest at the Etihad. You can't rely on people to beat City, you need to do the job yourself. We've found that out over the years ourselves. It's all very well getting a battling draw but it's just not enough to not show any ambition to beat them.

Edit: you are also battling the enormous "luck" City get with officials. The Doku non pen, the offside goal against Wolves (might have been Fulham)..about 3 more from Michael Oliver alone.

Arsenal have had plenty of luck themselves, arguably more than City this year. If we'd had a fraction of the wrong decisions go right, we'd still be in this.

[Bennett]

That's why they couldn't lose that.game though. They stayed above City by drawing.

Yeah, if they beat Villa they would still be in the driving seat. Revisionism to suggest 0-0 at the Etihad was anything but a great result.

[JRed]

Yeah, if they beat Villa they would still be in the driving seat. Revisionism to suggest 0-0 at the Etihad was anything but a great result.

Turns out it wasn’t tho . That was Arsenal’s chance to win the title . We all said Arsenal won’t win out but Abu Dhabi would. Arsenal had to win that game.

[QC]

Yeah, if they beat Villa they would still be in the driving seat. Revisionism to suggest 0-0 at the Etihad was anything but a great result.

Nah, that was a poor strategy from Arsenal. Arsenal were in good form, City had a load on injuries. They should've gone for the kill.

[Fromola]

It's no wonder City don't tire or burn out..the games are so slow and methodical. Occasionally they'll get a game like at Anfield.

[smicer07]

Why so much focus on that prick Gallagher?

[Rush 82]

Oh...Foden scored

[smicer07]

Arsenal will regret not trying to beat City away. Said so at the time. They had a massive chance then and completely shut up shop. Villa result was poor but would be irrelevant if they'd beaten City.

[Ray K]

Imagine, supposedly intelligent posters here thought that 115* would drop points after the Arsenal game.

[Zlen]

Arsenal fans in 'coulda, shoulda' contemplations time.

[tonysleft]

Turns out it wasn’t tho . That was Arsenal’s chance to win the title . We all said Arsenal won’t win out but Abu Dhabi would. Arsenal had to win that game.

What by beating City at the Etihad? How many teams have ever done that! Ole did it more times than Klopp!

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Imagine, supposedly intelligent posters here thought that 115* would drop points after the Arsenal game.

If we'd have stayed ahead of them I think it would have been more likely. We saw in 19/20 that they don't like playing catch-up.

It's like with Arsenal now. This result today increases their chances of dropping points tomorrow I'd say.

[oojason]

Fulham 0 - [2] 115+ Cheats; Foden goal 59‎'‎ - https://dubz.link/v/2a1wnc

Haaland miss against Fulham on 61' - https://dubz.link/v/63m336

[smicer07]

What by beating City at the Etihad? How many teams have ever done that! Ole did it more times than Klopp!

City had injuries and weren't in great form. Arsenal were flying and no injuries. They played for a draw, which was a massive fail.

[jillcwhomever]

Out of interest how many times did we beat City away when we were fighting titles with them? It's very easy to say teams should have tried to beat them but how often does it ever happen anyway? That's part of the issue as to how difficult it is to win titles now.

[smicer07]

It's not really about doing it. The issue people had was that they didn't really try to. We never beat them, but we always went out with the intent of trying to win.

Exactly.

[BobPaisley3]

Out of interest how many times did we beat City away when we were fighting titles with them? It's very easy to say teams should have tried to beat them but how often does it ever happen anyway? That's part of the issue as to how difficult it is to win titles now.

2-2 draw in 2022.
2-1 defeat in 18/19.
4-0 defeat in 2020 but we’d already won it

[tonysleft]

City had injuries and weren't in great form. Arsenal were flying and no injuries. They played for a draw, which was a massive fail.

Nobody has ever, ever beaten City at the Etihad during a title race. Its ridiculous to suggest they should have gotten that

[jillcwhomever]

Exactly.

They had chances against them though, just as we did. It's not as if it was wall to wall defending.

[smicer07]

Nobody has ever, ever beaten City at the Etihad during a title race. Its ridiculous to suggest they should have gotten that

They didn't try to win. They settled for a point.

[smicer07]

They had chances against them though, just as we did. It's not as if it was wall to wall defending.

They played for 0-0.

[UntouchableLuis]

Easy title win for City from here. 4-0 vs Spurs. 5-0 vs West Ham.

Boring season.

Same again next season probably. I'd take finishing 9th and winning the CL.

[smicer07]

Bad dive from de Bruyne

[tonysleft]

They didn't try to win. They settled for a point.

Most teams don't even get that. They were right to. It will be Villa that ruined their title challenge, not failing to beat a team at home that nobody ever beats during a run in

[jillcwhomever]

2-2 draw in 2022.
2-1 defeat in 18/19.
4-0 defeat in 2020 but we’d already won it

Proves the point as Tony's just pointed out, defeating City is next to impossible whatever their form.

[jillcwhomever]

They played for 0-0.

Which is better than losing the game.

[smicer07]

Most teams don't even get that. They were right to. It will be Villa that ruined their title challenge, not failing to beat a team at home that nobody ever beats during a run in

Agree to disagree since we're going round in circles. Arsenal had the best chance they'll ever get of beating City away.

[BobPaisley3]

Proves the point as Tony's just pointed out, defeating City is next to impossible whatever their form.

That 18/19 game still grates with me. We were better.

[elsewhere]

Arsenal probably fucked up by losing both matches against Villa

[RedSince86]

Arsenal getting to 89 points and not winning the league are Rookie numbers.

[smicer07]

Which is better than losing the game.

But if they'd had one ounce of attacking intent they could be top still today.

[MonsLibpool]

Arsenal probably fucked up by losing both matches against Villa

They "fucked up" by not being perfect basically.

These days, you can't be human and make mistakes.

[smicer07]

Yawn

[BobPaisley3]

Real chance to dent the goal difference now.

[smicer07]

Got to be offside there surely? Doesn't matter if Akanji doesn't touch it

[BobPaisley3]

Got to be offside there surely?

Think you’re right.

[jillcwhomever]

But if they'd had one ounce of attacking intent they could be top still today.

You appear to be in denial about this. City have never lost a game against a title rival at home.

[smicer07]

Think you’re right.

Nah he's played on near side.

[stockdam]

That’s offside. He doesn’t have to touch the ball. However he was being played on by the left back.

[Crosby Nick]

Yeah, if they beat Villa they would still be in the driving seat. Revisionism to suggest 0-0 at the Etihad was anything but a great result.

It’s not though. In fairness it is a decent result. But a win there (easier said than done obviously) would have given that margin for error down the line. It’s one thing to say a point keeps them in front. It’s another to then have to win the last 8 or whatever it was to keep ahead.