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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #680 on: February 4, 2024, 08:11:58 pm »
Bad Performance. Mistakes that dont normally happen either.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #681 on: February 4, 2024, 08:12:45 pm »
Lets see where we are at at city at home. Things can change v quickly, even discounting today which was always going to be a v tough match with who we had out, being away from home, players coming back not fit, 3 games in 7 days etc.  no excuses but after city hopefully we are still top. Then the fun will really begin.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #682 on: February 4, 2024, 08:13:07 pm »
We are going to have to beat City now.

Nope…..we just need to get more points than them. It’s not over by a long chalk.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #683 on: February 4, 2024, 08:13:22 pm »
No, he is right.

Trying to win all four spreads us thin for the main trophies. We should focus on the league and rotate in the F.A Cup

The issue though is injuries and unavailability.

We should have had Bradley, Szobozslai, Endo and Salah available today. That is four players with real energy and intensity.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #684 on: February 4, 2024, 08:13:42 pm »
Can't moan at a game like that. We deserved to lose, and we did. A couple of very uncharacteristic errors aside, we may have snuck a draw, but we barley laid a finger on them going forward, so was always a tough ask.

Koante red was bullshit. Ref let himself down at the end and lost the plot.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #685 on: February 4, 2024, 08:15:04 pm »
I'm down after that.

I suppose the desire to not die is stronger than the desire to thrive. But it shouldn't have been that way. We should have been up for it as much as they were.

After the high of the Chelsea game this is a big low.

The right-sided triangle was changed completely after the Chelsea game. Bradley - Szobozlai - Jota  became TAA - Grav - Gakpo. I think the three of them are either not physical/athletic enough or not defensively disciplined enough for a tough away game.

Taylor was frustrating again, he let Arsenal defenders away with the exact same type of challenges that he booked Konate for twice.

The massive party after the game was reminiscent of the Spurs game. I suppose it's a compliment to us that they believed they won a trophy for beating us. Arteta, in particular, behaved like a massive provocative bellend on the sidelines, one of the things he learned from Pep obviously. To his credit though, he won the tactical battle and they are the first team to beat us fair and square this season. He remains an annoying twat though. The over celebrations suggest the team is over-excited and will falter again.

However, by far the thing I am most down about is our performance. We didn't create much, we made silly errors and perhaps only two or three players performed well. I am disappointed that we failed to show up in a big game, that we gifted them goals, but most of all that we didn't create. There are mitigating factors of course such as our injuries/absences and our tougher schedule than Arsenal in recent times.

Overall though I think it's a massive blow after our last month or so of good performances. We now have almost no room for error and I think it may be too much for us even if we do bounce back in the next few games. I am sad.


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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #686 on: February 4, 2024, 08:16:24 pm »
No need to slash our wrists, it was a bad day at the office, and honestly at HT it looked like we might pull off a bank job, but it wasn't to be.

Can't complain about the result and maybe we can use this a wake up that nothing is settled and our good run of form shouldn't be taken for granted. Onwards.

This is the perspective. We were dog first half (Klopp admitted he got his tactics wrong) then before the calamaity between Allison & Virgil, the game was finely balanced. If that mistake happens we're probably saying "this is the sign of champions". We missed some physicality, the ref was letting a lot of tackles go and that harmed us.

Still top of the league- I don't think much changes for us. I think it gives us time to reset in the next block of games before the Cup final. Not sure I buy the narrative it's a game too far for the squad either? Having a big squad, we need game time, there's a real benefit to players playing twice a week. Quite clear we have a number of players who need rhythm.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #687 on: February 4, 2024, 08:16:43 pm »
Nope…..we just need to get more points than them. It’s not over by a long chalk.

Of course its not, but they are finding their groove again and once/if they take the lead then nobody is chasing them down.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #688 on: February 4, 2024, 08:17:27 pm »
Bad day all round made worse by poor errors. 11/12 wins from 15 I think to win it. Going to be tough whilst navigating the other 3 competitions. Really going to need to get lucky with injuries from here or do some heavy rotation into the Fa cup as/or Europa League

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #689 on: February 4, 2024, 08:17:54 pm »
I'm down after that.

I suppose the desire to not die is stronger than the desire to thrive. But it shouldn't have been that way. We should have been up for it as much as they were.

After the high of the Chelsea game this is a big low.

The right-sided triangle was changed completely after the Chelsea game. Bradley - Szobozlai - Jota  became TAA - Grav - Gakpo. I think the three of them are either not physical/athletic enough or not defensively disciplined enough for a tough away game.

Taylor was frustrating again, he let Arsenal defenders away with the exact same type of challenges that he booked Konate for twice.

The massive party after the game was reminiscent of the Spurs game. I suppose it's a compliment to us that they believed they won a trophy for beating us. Arteta, in particular, behaved like a massive provocative bellend on the sidelines, one of the things he learned from Pep obviously. To his credit though, he won the tactical battle and they are the first team to beat us fair and square this season. He remains an annoying twat though. The over celebrations suggest the team is over-excited and will falter again.

However, by far the thing I am most down about is our performance. We didn't create much, we made silly errors and perhaps only two or three players performed well. I am disappointed that we failed to show up in a big game, that we gifted them goals, but most of all that we didn't create. There are mitigating factors of course such as our injuries/absences and our tougher schedule than Arsenal in recent times.

Overall though I think it's a massive blow after our last month or so of good performances. We now have almost no room for error and I think it may be too much for us even if we do bounce back in the next few games. I am sad.

The concern is not having much room for error, which is what this results has done now.  Not throwing the towel, but are we able to be perfect, as City will be.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #690 on: February 4, 2024, 08:18:20 pm »
Can't moan at a game like that. We deserved to lose, and we did. A couple of very uncharacteristic errors aside, we may have snuck a draw, but we barley laid a finger on them going forward, so was always a tough ask.


I just hops it doesn't kill our momentum
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #691 on: February 4, 2024, 08:19:18 pm »
Bad day all round made worse by poor errors. 11/12 wins from 15 I think to win it. Going to be tough whilst navigating the other 3 competitions. Really going to need to get lucky with injuries from here or do some heavy rotation into the Fa cup as/or Europa League

Hmm i cant see winning the league if we win less than 13. We need to break 90 points clearly.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #692 on: February 4, 2024, 08:20:09 pm »
Can I tell some of the younger ones on here that in my day we could lose 7-8-9 games a season and still win the league, with City raising the bar we have to be almost perfect these days.
Arsenal are on par with us and in many ways better, this is a new team and can only get better. For me Jones, Grav, Elliot and even Gomez are not top notch and Nunez is not the type to win you games.
We have only really lost one game not counting the Spurs game and overall we are doing really well..

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #693 on: February 4, 2024, 08:20:49 pm »
Bad day all round made worse by poor errors. 11/12 wins from 15 I think to win it. Going to be tough whilst navigating the other 3 competitions. Really going to need to get lucky with injuries from here or do some heavy rotation into the Fa cup as/or Europa League

We need 12 wins and that includes beating City.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #694 on: February 4, 2024, 08:22:12 pm »
We were shit today. Hey ho, can’t win ‘em all.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #695 on: February 4, 2024, 08:23:43 pm »
Can I tell some of the younger ones on here that in my day we could lose 7-8-9 games a season and still win the league, with City raising the bar we have to be almost perfect these days.
Arsenal are on par with us and in many ways better, this is a new team and can only get better. For me Jones, Grav, Elliot and even Gomez are not top notch and Nunez is not the type to win you games.
We have only really lost one game not counting the Spurs game and overall we are doing really well..

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #696 on: February 4, 2024, 08:24:13 pm »
I would say we were just over the tipping point of unavailable players, for a game that counts as top three hardest of the season, so bad luck with timing; Thiago & Mo a couple of weeks earlier might have returned to some degree of sublime again, Conor would have been a Wizard if not for his awful loss, the game plan got altered two days ago.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #697 on: February 4, 2024, 08:25:17 pm »
We need 12 wins and that includes beating City.

That means that gives us 88 points, City can get 92 max if we beat them. So they would need to drop points in 2 games to match 88.

Very little room for error for us.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #698 on: February 4, 2024, 08:25:57 pm »
The issue though is injuries and unavailability.

We should have had Bradley, Szobozslai, Endo and Salah available today. That is four players with real energy and intensity.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #699 on: February 4, 2024, 08:26:38 pm »
Can I tell some of the younger ones on here that in my day we could lose 7-8-9 games a season and still win the league, with City raising the bar we have to be almost perfect these days.
Arsenal are on par with us and in many ways better, this is a new team and can only get better. For me Jones, Grav, Elliot and even Gomez are not top notch and Nunez is not the type to win you games.
We have only really lost one game not counting the Spurs game and overall we are doing really well..

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #700 on: February 4, 2024, 08:26:47 pm »
Fuck. Somebody get me a bandage. I'm bleeding out.


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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #701 on: February 4, 2024, 08:28:31 pm »
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #702 on: February 4, 2024, 08:29:07 pm »
Curtis Jones will be a top player one day

Don’t reply to posters like that.

Jones and Gomez have been immense for us for weeks.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #703 on: February 4, 2024, 08:29:43 pm »
Burnley and Luton at home, Brentford and Forest away. 12/12 then put it all in against the cheats. Let's do it.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #704 on: February 4, 2024, 08:31:10 pm »
Can I tell some of the younger ones on here that in my day we could lose 7-8-9 games a season and still win the league, with City raising the bar we have to be almost perfect these days.
Arsenal are on par with us and in many ways better, this is a new team and can only get better. For me Jones, Grav, Elliot and even Gomez are not top notch and Nunez is not the type to win you games.
We have only really lost one game not counting the Spurs game and overall we are doing really well..
You should also remember then that all of those great teams had players who weren’t top notch either. When you end up having to change an entire side of the team a performance like this is understandable (but still frustrating). All of those you name are good enough for us
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #705 on: February 4, 2024, 08:31:57 pm »
Don’t reply to posters like that.

Jones and Gomez have been immense for us for weeks.

Gomez has been great this season, but I think Jones could be something special in a few years
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #706 on: February 4, 2024, 08:32:12 pm »
We did miss Bradley. We’ve got a real star there. 

100% he has been like a revelation. 3 assists and a goal and endless running up and down the wing. Hard to know how he would have done today but we look far more threatening with someone offering that on the wing.

And whilst I think Gomez has been fantastic on the left I feel we need Robertson back doing that for us as well. Far too often we stop and cut back.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #707 on: February 4, 2024, 08:33:50 pm »
Stop posting. You are annoying as shit. 

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #708 on: February 4, 2024, 08:34:22 pm »
That means that gives us 88 points, City can get 92 max if we beat them. So they would need to drop points in 2 games to match 88.

Very little room for error for us.

It’s what you have to do to win the title.

We probably need 90 plus.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #709 on: February 4, 2024, 08:34:36 pm »
You should also remember then that all of those great teams had players who weren’t top notch either. When you end up having to change an entire side of the team a performance like this is understandable (but still frustrating). All of those you name are good enough for us
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #710 on: February 4, 2024, 08:34:41 pm »
Burnley and Luton at home, Brentford and Forest away. 12/12 then put it all in against the cheats. Let's do it.

We win those five and have a chance again. It sounds doable on paper but all it takes is one hiccup and we are in serious bother.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #711 on: February 4, 2024, 08:35:46 pm »
I've decided that I hate Mikel Arteta more than any manager in the league. Utter utter utter douche bag.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #712 on: February 4, 2024, 08:38:19 pm »
Probably the kick up the backside we needed to focus on the run in which contrary to popular belief around the Emirates where they believe the title was all but won today, doesn't start until mid March.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #713 on: February 4, 2024, 08:38:33 pm »
We win those five and have a chance again. It sounds doable on paper but all it takes is one hiccup and we are in serious bother.

What’s the most wins in a row for any side this season in the League?
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #714 on: February 4, 2024, 08:39:16 pm »
That was a negative and right now I need two positives, one to cancel out the negative and another one so I can have a positive.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #715 on: February 4, 2024, 08:39:56 pm »
Still top of the league. Only second loss of the season. Smash Burnley at the weekend and everything is rosey again. We have far exceeded my expectations for this season already. We are in a fantastic position on all fronts with keys players coming back. Perspective please.

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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #718 on: February 4, 2024, 08:43:49 pm »
I've decided that I hate Mikel Arteta more than any manager in the league. Utter utter utter douche bag.

More than Guardiola? How weird.
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Re: PL: Arse vs Liv 3-1 Saka 13 o.g. 45+3’ Martinelli 67’ Trossard 90+2’
« Reply #719 on: February 4, 2024, 08:45:10 pm »
Nice to see Thiago back, a great option when he's back up to speed.
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