Topic: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

[killer-heels]

Been talk about what expectations the new manager will have. Villa are on 67 points and its likely they dont finish on much above 70 if at all. There was talk about how 5th or even 6th would be ok if we saw progress, well we are not blessed with sides getting mid to high 70’s.

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/LewisSteele_/status/1787224775535804479

Introduced myself to Arne Slot and he misheard it as Luis Diaz. Anyway he adds that he would like to pick the brains of Jurgen Klopp if he was to take over as Liverpool boss

[killer-heels]

Not into playing it cool, is he.

[Samie]

Nothing to play cool about. It's done, the club are waiting till end of the season though.

[Garlicbread]

Not into playing it cool, is he.

The dutch and the belgians don't beat around the bush. They say it as it is.

[Draex]

Not into playing it cool, is he.

I’d love to pick the brain of Jurgen, and Im not our new manager.

[SamLad]

I’d love to pick the brain of Jurgen, and Im not our new manager.

I've thought that too, then I realized that after about 10 minutes I'd likely not have a clue what he was talking about and he'd feel like he was trying to teach a monkey to do algebra.

[DangerScouse]

https://x.com/ESPNnl/status/1787215653562163634

[kop306]

apart from jota today was close to the starting XI

slot will learn from that

[amir87]

https://x.com/ESPNnl/status/1787215653562163634

Glad to see we’re retaining Jay Spearing’s services.

[newterp]

The dutch and the belgians don't beat around the bush. They say it as it is.

It's why Austin powers hates them. He likes the innuendo.

[Draex]

I've thought that too, then I realized that after about 10 minutes I'd likely not have a clue what he was talking about and he'd feel like he was trying to teach a monkey to do algebra.

I’d go with footie or beer, rather than algebra.

Ask him is it true they force him to say good things about the owners or something bad happens.

[Bobinhood]

https://x.com/ESPNnl/status/1787215653562163634

Sad to think that's the last time he'll ever smile at a referee.

[Samie]

[Anthony]

Not into playing it cool, is he.

Schtop! It's not ready yet!

[B0151?]

apart from jota today was close to the starting XI

slot will learn from that

Who knows if that would be close to his first 11. We had Jones, Szoboszlai, Konate, Gravenberch, Nunez on the bench.  A very stacked bench when you add Gomez, Baj and Bradley too. Obviously we acknowledge that it's lucky if you have all players available, but even without signings, there's a lot of options there. And that's ignoring any potential signings.

It will be very interesting to see what players he favours.

I think we have a lot of quality but like I said in the Salah thread, I really think it's crucial that we keep hold of Salah if we want to make this transition as smooth as possible. It is baffling if anyone could think that having the new boss first task being to be trying to replace Salah's output would be a good idea. Asking for disaster if that happened.

[HeartAndSoul]

We’ll have played around 60 games comes to the end of the season whilst feyenoord will have played around 50 games. Thats roughly an extra 10 games. Think the amount of games here came as a shock for Jurgen when he first took over. Be interesting to see how Slot deals with this. We already have an extra 2 CL games from next season.

[Suareznumber7]

Maybe we need to prioritize league and CL above the cups?  Fatigue has obviously been a major factor in the downturn that we've seen late in the season.  Playing the kids and 1st team players who need minutes for the league cup and early FA cup games might help the level of fatigue in the first team regulars. 

[SamLad]

Maybe we need to prioritize league and CL above the cups?  Fatigue has obviously been a major factor in the downturn that we've seen late in the season.  Playing the kids and 1st team players who need minutes for the league cup and early FA cup games might help the level of fatigue in the first team regulars.

that gets my vote.

[robertobaggio37]

How are his teeth?

[Bangin Them In]

Maybe we need to prioritize league and CL above the cups?  Fatigue has obviously been a major factor in the downturn that we've seen late in the season.  Playing the kids and 1st team players who need minutes for the league cup and early FA cup games might help the level of fatigue in the first team regulars.

Agree in principle but when we progress in the cups everyone loses their shit when the kids are still played

[SamLad]

Agree in principle but when we progress in the cups everyone loses their shit when the kids are still played

it's a no-win proposition for any manager. damned if you do, etc.

start with the kids and if they progress that's great, but putting too much pressure on them in the later stages isn't ideal, they need some big guns to step in.

[rob1966]

How are his teeth?

Bobby dentist will have him glowing like a lighthouse in no time

[MonsLibpool]

The cups represent a realistic chance for Slot to win something so I don't get binning them to focus on the league when a title challenge isn't "expected" next season.

Winning that first trophy goes a long way.

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1787422226821656598

Van Dijk insists “no news” on his contract situation - but #LFC skipper excited about the future at Anfield and intends to help ensure the transition from one era to another is as smooth as possible.

[Giono]

Maybe we need to prioritize league and CL above the cups?  Fatigue has obviously been a major factor in the downturn that we've seen late in the season.  Playing the kids and 1st team players who need minutes for the league cup and early FA cup games might help the level of fatigue in the first team regulars. 

Agree. The cups have been tremendous for our young players' development.

[rob1966]

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1787422226821656598

Unlike the crybaby in 2005, Virg understands that there are bigger priorities to be sorted first. There's no universe where Slot is saying "nah I don't want virg to stay"

[Giono]

The cups represent a realistic chance for Slot to win something so I don't get binning them to focus on the league when a title challenge isn't "expected" next season.

Winning that first trophy goes a long way.

This was a season when people didn't expect a title challenge...

The League and Europe are priorities #1 and 2. Cups are nice.

And for a new manager coming in...he will be judged in his first season by how well we do in the league and how far we go in Europe.

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1787408563532386325

Who is Arne Slot?

[rob1966]

The cups represent a realistic chance for Slot to win something so I don't get binning them to focus on the league when a title challenge isn't "expected" next season.

Winning that first trophy goes a long way.

This squad is capable of winning the league next season, it doesn't sound like there will be huge changes in the way we play, so it shouldn't be a huge transitional season, so while it's unfair to expect him to win one of the big two, we're not in a no way can we scenario. Trebles are rare for a reason, quads near impossible, so for a season or two, I'm OK with focusing on the league/CL. There's 8 first stage games now, no dead rubbers by the looks of it, so something needs to give, Klopp said it himself with that dig about only losing one LC game, it's too much football

[Samie]

Arne Slot on if he would contact Jurgen Klopp for advice:

“I think it’s normal that if you go to a new club that you contact the current coach.  If there is an official confirmation, it would be strange if I did not call him.” [@LewisSteele_]

[ScubaSteve]

The cups represent a realistic chance for Slot to win something so I don't get binning them to focus on the league when a title challenge isn't "expected" next season.

Winning that first trophy goes a long way.

With 9 games to go, it never fully felt like we were gonna win the league this season.

If we weren’t challenging, I’d say we’d still be in the Europa league now. Rather the cups than the league, it’s far more entertaining than league footy

[MonsLibpool]

This squad is capable of winning the league next season, it doesn't sound like there will be huge changes in the way we play, so it shouldn't be a huge transitional season, so while it's unfair to expect him to win one of the big two, we're not in a no way can we scenario. Trebles are rare for a reason, quads near impossible, so for a season or two, I'm OK with focusing on the league/CL. There's 8 first stage games now, no dead rubbers by the looks of it, so something needs to give, Klopp said it himself with that dig about only losing one LC game, it's too much football

Maybe I am just greedy but we do have a very good which we'll add to this summer.

A double or a treble this season was very realistic and we actually didn't run out of steam. We just lost form at the critical point. Our best players were "well rested" after being out for months.

[rob1966]

Maybe I am just greedy but we do have a very good which we'll add to this summer.

A double or a treble this season was very realistic and we actually didn't run out of steam. We just lost form at the critical point. Our best players were "well rested" after being out for months.

I'm basing my thinking solely on what Klopp has been saying, too much football, not enough recovery time has cost England in the three European tournaments.

We have had our best players rested for long periods, but then they sometimes struggle to hit form, meanwhile the players who have had to play, have played more than they should, so then they're knackered. Klopp also said they don't get proper training sessions, I do think this is what derailed our season.

[MonsLibpool]

I'm basing my thinking solely on what Klopp has been saying, too much football, not enough recovery time has cost England in the three European tournaments.

We have had our best players rested for long periods, but then they sometimes struggle to hit form, meanwhile the players who have had to play, have played more than they should, so then they're knackered. Klopp also said they don't get proper training sessions, I do think this is what derailed our season.

Fairs.

For the league cup, the kids are alright to a large extent. It's a chance to continue blooding them and we can mix it up with a few fringe players/senior pros here and there.

Players like Quansah, Bradley, Clark, Bajcetic... our depth is very good. It can also be used to keep the fringe players fit and sharp like this season.

It obviously depends on luck too i.e. avoiding the better teams like we largely did in the League cup this year but the better teams have weaker depth (subject to what they do next summer).

[Dr. Beaker]

The Shiny One.

[ScouserAtHeart]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1787408563532386325

Bit late to be asking that

[spider-neil]

The Shiny One.

The Bald One.

[Garlic Red]

Maybe I am just greedy but we do have a very good which we'll add to this summer.

A double or a treble this season was very realistic and we actually didn't run out of steam. We just lost form at the critical point. Our best players were "well rested" after being out for months.

A bit of a simple way of looking at it, no?

Can you just measure ‘steam’ by minutes played? I’d argue going to extra time twice in the space of a few weeks can take its toll on any side physically but more so mentally. Plenty of individual players did lose form, but let’s not kid ourselves, they lost form because the bubble had been burst twice at Old Trafford either side of the international break. The wheels fell off and mental toll caused irreversible damage.

I’m glad we had a go and won the league cup, I really didn’t want us to progress in the FA cup, I didn’t want us to go for all four in 2022 either but we did and again that took its toll on the team as we seen in 22/23.

We’re a pretty young team, we’ve got lots of younger players coming through and I’d happily see them given both domestic cup competitions to play, but if we went out in the first rounds of both I’d be elated to be honest. Time spent on the training ground and recovering will be far more important to our season next year than extended cup runs. The added CL games, the added demands of a new manager trying to implement his methods etc will be more than enough to occupy our squad. If the domestic cups were a bit more spread out, I wouldn’t be as fussed, but the way the LC semis/final coincide with the FA cup rounds and then the European KO games, it’s too much for a new manager to navigate in his first season.

[MonsLibpool]

A bit of a simple way of looking at it, no?

Can you just measure ‘steam’ by minutes played? I’d argue going to extra time twice in the space of a few weeks can take its toll on any side physically but more so mentally. Plenty of individual players did lose form, but let’s not kid ourselves, they lost form because the bubble had been burst twice at Old Trafford either side of the international break. The wheels fell off and mental toll caused irreversible damage.

I’m glad we had a go and won the league cup, I really didn’t want us to progress in the FA cup, I didn’t want us to go for all four in 2022 either but we did and again that took its toll on the team as we seen in 22/23.

We’re a pretty young team, we’ve got lots of younger players coming through and I’d happily see them given both domestic cup competitions to play, but if we went out in the first rounds of both I’d be elated to be honest. Time spent on the training ground and recovering will be far more important to our season next year than extended cup runs. The added CL games, the added demands of a new manager trying to implement his methods etc will be more than enough to occupy our squad. If the domestic cups were a bit more spread out, I wouldn’t be as fussed, but the way the LC semis/final coincide with the FA cup rounds and then the European KO games, it’s too much for a new manager to navigate in his first season.

We rotated heavily in the league cup and Europa League. This is not normal for us as the big players tend to play 3 games a week. Some of them also had long layoffs.

So, it's not simplistic. The advantage of doing that is that it made the fringe ready to step in when we needed them but I don't agree with the "tiredness" shouts because this season was a utopia in terms of our ability to rest the big boys regularly.