Topic: Get out of our country yer gang of fucking bellends. TORIES OUT!

[rob1966]

No chance of that currently.  Marr’s replacement Sophie raworth earlier had Starmer on and she attempted to compare a pic (the one from the Mail) of Starmer having a drink in a work setting with the multiple Tory parties.  Starmer rightly pointed out there is no comparison to be made.

These pics will have more impact on the public than anything.

[killer-heels]

If I were Labour Id put that on a poster in as much places as possible, on a van driving through a town or city, social media everything.

[So… Howard Philips]

If I were Labour Id put that on a poster in as much places as possible, on a van driving through a town or city, social media everything.

But Starmer drank a bottle of beer and the Beeb is a nest of pinkos, traitors and commies.

Or so we're told.

[gazzalfc]

Well there is no way the report will come out before Wednesday

[oldfordie]

Well there is no way the report will come out before Wednesday

Only the police can get to the truth, Johnson+co can and will lie to civil servants without fear of prosecution if caught lying, nobody can deny he lies. he lied over his flat refurbishment.
The report may well lay some blame on Johnson but it will not uncover all the facts.

[TSC]

Dowden was on previous but I paid no attentions as it would just make me angry, was she the like that with him?

Never seen that but caught Dowden on sky earlier and Trevor Phillips went in hard on him re the parties.

[Circa1892]

This has to finish them off for a while eventually.

The sleaze in the 90s killed off the Major government and paved the way for Blair’s landslide. This is so, so, so much worse!

[Yorkykopite]

Labour has to start preparing for a post-Johnson Conservative Prime Minister.

That means putting the emphasis on the collective responsibility of the Tory Party. Not just for the illegal parties and for the fact that they created Johnson in the first place. But for the fact that this is a venal and corrupt regime. The spotlight needs to go back on to corruption and the question of 'Who did well out of Covid?'

I've always thought that there's a chance that Keir Starmer's stolidity might pay a dividend in the end. The Attlee effect. His obvious integrity and his diligence plus his lack of histrionics are what freaks the Tories out. They know that it's what country is now beginning to crave. 

[Lee1-6Liv]

Just saying on the news that he will try and cling on to power by ending all covid restrictions on the next few weeks. I can't see him going anywhere to be honest, he is like a cockroach. 

[Mutton Geoff]

Just saying on the news that he will try and cling on to power by ending all covid restrictions on the next few weeks. I can't see him going anywhere to be honest, he is like a cockroach. 

You can stamp on a roach though:

[TepidT2O]

Just saying on the news that he will try and cling on to power by ending all covid restrictions on the next few weeks. I can't see him going anywhere to be honest, he is like a cockroach. 

Covid restrictions will finish on the 26th by rule of law.  Rightly so if the trends continue.  But I don’t think it will save them

[Circa1892]

I can’t see half the party voting against him. They’re cowards and weirdos. The cabinet are uniquely talentless and almost non of them would get a posting under a competent PM. He’ll be PM this time next year.

[Nick110581]

I can’t see half the party voting against him. They’re cowards and weirdos. The cabinet are uniquely talentless and almost non of them would get a posting under a competent PM. He’ll be PM this time next year.

That is why they are all there.

Completely out of their depth and sold their soul to work for this c*nt.

All going on national TV repeating the same shit about how he is sorry and will ring changes.

[Dr. Beaker]

That is why they are all there.

Completely out of their depth and sold their soul to work for this c*nt.

All going on national TV repeating the same shit about how he is sorry and will ring changes.

If they're all sticking together and backing each other up, that's good. May not seem like it yet, but it will do.

[Red-Soldier]

I can’t see half the party voting against him. They’re cowards and weirdos. The cabinet are uniquely talentless and almost non of them would get a posting under a competent PM. He’ll be PM this time next year.

35 of the 52 letters already in, apparently.

Doesn't matter what he does now, if they get hammered in the local elections and the polls continue the trends they are showing now, he'll be gone!

[Circa1892]

35 of the 52 letters already in, apparently.

Doesn't matter what he does now, if they get hammered in the local elections and the polls continue the trends they are showing now, he'll be gone!

52 letters, but they have 380 MPs don’t they. So it’s need 191 voting no confidence. Feels like a stretch.

[Nick110581]

That Nadine Dorries is fucking horrible.

She’s not very bright either.

[west_london_red]

35 of the 52 letters already in, apparently.

Doesn't matter what he does now, if they get hammered in the local elections and the polls continue the trends they are showing now, he'll be gone!

The local elections arnt until May I think, nearly 4 months away. Sadly by then I suspect people will have forgotten.

[TSC]

52 letters, but they have 380 MPs don’t they. So it’s need 191 voting no confidence. Feels like a stretch.

It’s all about how this gathers momentum.  There were 6 letters early this morning.  Now there are 35.  Tories likely inundated with emails from their constituents over this weekend. 

[Rob Dylan]

Think we need one more story to finish him off, but it needs to come soon, before people get bored with the whole thing. Let's hope whoever's leaking all this stuff has some evidence of the party they (allegedly) had in the Downing Sreet flat the night Dominic Cummings left his job.

[Nick110581]

52 letters, but they have 380 MPs don’t they. So it’s need 191 voting no confidence. Feels like a stretch.

Surely they need more as Circa says

[jillcwhomever]

If this is true they should be calling him out on this.  Also according to an earlier report by Polly Toynbee, an attack on the BBC isn't necessarily going to go down as well with the Tories as he might expect. There are some Tories who are very sceptical about his plans concerning this.

 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/16/boris-johnson-accused-of-targeting-bbc-to-save-his-premiership

[oldfordie]

If this is true they should be calling him out on this.  Also according to an earlier report by Polly Toynbee, an attack on the BBC isn't necessarily going to go down as well with the Tories as he might expect. There are some Tories who are very sceptical about his plans concerning this.

 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/16/boris-johnson-accused-of-targeting-bbc-to-save-his-premiership

Ive changed my Signature. doesn't look good when it's put like this.

The irony of Nadine Dorries defunding the one British thing which is actually world beating (BBC) is an irony which Nadine Dorries definitely won’t understand

[jillcwhomever]

Ive changed my Signature. doesn't look good when it's put like this.

The irony of Nadine Dorries defunding the one British thing which is actually world beating (BBC) is an irony which Nadine Dorries definitely won’t understand

I'm not sure she'd know what irony is.

[ShakaHislop]

Think we need one more story to finish him off, but it needs to come soon, before people get bored with the whole thing. Let's hope whoever's leaking all this stuff has some evidence of the party they (allegedly) had in the Downing Sreet flat the night Dominic Cummings left his job.

EXCL: Our @benglaze reveals that Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson attended yet another No 10 leaving bash in run-up to Christmas 2020 - that of defence adviser Steve Higham, now captain of Britain’s biggest warship.

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1482846215209467910

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/new-no10-party-revealed-boris-25962670

[oldfordie]

I'm not sure she'd know what irony is.

She would probably say she's got a Irony and a Irony board.

[jillcwhomever]

She would probably say she's got a Irony and a Irony board.

 

[rob1966]

The local elections arnt until May I think, nearly 4 months away. Sadly by then I suspect people will have forgotten.

Stating that two years ago this month while we were in lock down and the Queen was alone as she buried her husband the Tories were throwing illegal parties should remind them.

[Fromola]

I know the majority of the electorate are ignorant when it comes to politics, I also know they like to be given opinions on political issues and sadly the right wing propaganda usually wins the argument but the idea of them being fooled on this issue can't be true. the polls say it's not true, the Tory MPs themselves say it's not true as they are being inundated with email complaints from Tory voters. we saw something last week we haven't seen in 11yrs of Tory power, widespread public outrage by Johnson supporters as well as the rest of the public.

The parties are Johnson's Poll Tax moment because he's pissed everyone in the country off. Not just the poor or the left but his own voters who had to follow the rules; middle England families who were directly affected, not just the working class. "Let the bodies pile high in their thousands" should have brought him down though.

But then the Tories changed their leader after the Poll Rax riots and still won the next election. The English have serious Stockholm Syndrome for the Tories.

[No666]

The problem with throwing out the BBC licence fee as a pacifying bone is that it only pleases the right wing of the party. The centrist, one-nation Tories won't like it particularly. As for the military turning back migrants and us processing them in Rwanda - the right wingers have heard all that before from Patel and nothing has come of it save furious denials from whatever country she's claimed to have done a deal with. Don't think they're persuading anyone with that one. A few photos of inflatables in May in the Daily Mail and a new report of Boris's partying from a sacked insider and the local elections will be bloody. At that point, he'll be gone.

[thaddeus]

The parties are Johnson's Poll Tax moment because he's pissed everyone in the country off. Not just the poor or the left but his own voters who had to follow the rules; middle England families who were directly affected, not just the working class. "Let the bodies pile high in their thousands" should have brought him down though.

But then the Tories changed their leader after the Poll Rax riots and still won the next election. The English have serious Stockholm Syndrome for the Tories.

That's still very possible, sadly.  They will try to box off all the negative stories into a bundle with Johnson and present Truss/Sunak/whoever as being a clean start.  Enough people aren't that politically interested to join the dots that whoever succeeds Johnson will have been his loyal lieutenant and part of his crank cabinet.

Irrespective of the leader they still have the massive majority gifted them by xenophobic "get Brexit done" voters and over two years to push through all manner of policies to protect their position; voter ID is a given.  The degree of gerrymandering will probably be influenced by the polls but it's going to happen to some extent.

[Fromola]

The problem with throwing out the BBC licence fee as a pacifying bone is that it only pleases the right wing of the party. The centrist, one-nation Tories won't like it particularly. As for the military turning back migrants and us processing them in Rwanda - the right wingers have heard all that before from Patel and nothing has come of it save furious denials from whatever country she's claimed to have done a deal with. Don't think they're persuading anyone with that one. A few photos of inflatables in May in the Daily Mail and a new report of Boris's partying from a sacked insider and the local elections will be bloody. At that point, he'll be gone.

Johnson has seen off most of these already within parliament (Grieve, Soubry, Ken Clarke etc). The Tory MPs now are mostly Brexit headbangers, there's not many moderates left. When Teresa May is seen as almost a lone voice of reason on the back benches it's dire.

If you look at it though the BBC has an old viewership (particularly it's news content) and older people overwhelmingly voted Brexit and Johnson, so the BBC is hardly harming them electorally. GB News has tried to move the older viewers away from the BBC without success so far. This is another push to get people to Murdoch's new channel and GB News to replace the BBC.

[Fromola]

That's still very possible, sadly.  They will try to box off all the negative stories into a bundle with Johnson and present Truss/Sunak/whoever as being a clean start.  Enough people aren't that politically interested to join the dots that whoever succeeds Johnson will have been his loyal lieutenant and part of his crank cabinet.

Irrespective of the leader they still have the massive majority gifted them by xenophobic "get Brexit done" voters and over two years to push through all manner of policies to protect their position; voter ID is a given.  The degree of gerrymandering will probably be influenced by the polls but it's going to happen to some extent.

Don't forget boundary changes.

[Nick110581]

Just waiting for the photo of him at a Party.

That will finish him.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

She kept pushing the non-story that Starmer had been carrying on like Johnson to the point it became almost uncomfortable.

Like the chinese spy rubbish, such a big threat and the regime are so terrible only because a labour politician could be implicated while Putin' oligarchs and all their cash injections to the actual, incumbent government is fine!

I initially thought that Starmer was quite poor at dealing with this, but on reflection I think he was almost lost for words that a journalist was trying to find some sort of equivalence between Starmer having a beer in a meeting and Johnson allowing and attending multiple parties.

That said I think when she asked him if he would still be pushing for his resignation if the inquiry was inconclusive, he got dragged into the technicalities of the inquiry instead of keeping the messaging simple which would be "Yes of course because he misled Parliament on several occasions". He covered this well early on but then failed to hammer it home later.

the key point being that irrespective of any findings, he has broken the ministerial code and therefore should resign.

[KillieRed]

That Nadine Dorries is fucking horrible.

She’s not very bright either.

I’m a librarian, her illiterate misery porn (whilst simultaneously being rather wealthy) masquerading as heart-warming family sagas has offended me for years. And that’s before I found out she was a smug, self-serving Tory gimp.

[reddebs]

Having lived in one of those typical brexit/red wall areas for the past 20yrs, I'd say those who did vote for him/them did so for brexit reasons only and as far as they're concerned that's done now.

Nothing has changed for them. 

There's no new money magically appeared for the levelling up. 

Services are still being cut.

They don't really pay much attention to day to day politics, or what happens in parliament, they just liked what they heard and saw from Boris.

Remove him and I'd say most either won't vote, as they didnt before, or they'll go back to voting later.

[lobsterboy]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/one-rule-for-them-18000-fined-for-outdoor-gatherings-but-pm-dodges-punishment/?source=in-article-related-story

[AndyMuller]

The emphasis of how shit they are needs to be placed on the Tory party as a whole, not just Johnson. It is important Labour get this message across because I can't see that c*nt lasting much longer and some other horrible c*nt will only take his place.

[Nick110581]

The emphasis of how shit they are needs to be placed on the Tory party as a whole, not just Johnson. It is important Labour get this message across because I can't see that c*nt lasting much longer and some other horrible c*nt will only take his place.

Exactly.

The only hope is a new PM will get rid of the idiots beneath Johnson.

None of them are qualified.