Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)

[newterp]

anyone see a new scar on his knee?

Also - who is he kidding? He wasn't working out - probably just binged more anime.

[decosabute]

The last one was October. He's just as likely to go 10 months without another injury but that's a lot less fun to post about.

Is this another one of those posts that tries to claim Keita isn't injury prone? When had he ever gone 10 months without an injury before? And no, it's not 'fun' to post about Keita constantly being out - we all wish he were fit and playing like the player we thought we were signing - but most people are, very justifiably, sick and tired of it.

[JasonF]

Is this another one of those posts that tries to claim Keita isn't injury prone? When had he ever gone 10 months without an injury before? And no, it's not 'fun' to post about Keita constantly being out - we all wish he were fit and playing like the player we thought we were signing - but most people are, very justifiably, sick and tired of it.

I imagine he's had 10 month plus spells without injury for most of his career, just as Matip had before he came to Liverpool. Matip managed a full season last year and Keita managed 10 months. We obviously do need to manage them more than players like Salah who are always available but to suggest he's going to break down every 2 weeks is obviously an exaggeration.

[decosabute]

I imagine he's had 10 month plus spells without injury for most of his career, just as Matip had before he came to Liverpool. Matip managed a full season last year and Keita managed 10 months. We obviously do need to manage them more than players like Salah who are always available but to suggest he's going to break down every 2 weeks is obviously an exaggeration.

Is it?

Admittedly doing this off the top of my head, but he missed around 40-50% of the games in his first season - was it three separate injuries?

He then had a slightly better 19/20, where he still missed games, especially a lot of the first half of the season (which is where we actually won the league), before playing a lot in the last couple of months after the covid stoppage.

Then he barely kicked a ball and missed most of 20/21. 

Last season he had his best availability, 'only' missing about 8-10 games through injury.

Now, he's gone for the first couple of months of this season.

It's not constant absence, but simultaneously I don't think anyone being sick of his lack of availability is exaggerating in any way.

Edit - having checked his injury record on transfermarkt, it doesn't seem to make sense. For example, it claims he missed 23 games through illness and injury in 20/21, but he only played 500 minutes in the PL that season and 147 minutes in the CL, so in reality he missed a lot more than claimed.

[GreatEx]

Hope we get some good news on Harvey. Just watching the replay this afternoon, I noticed that he gave a little wave as he came off at h/t which seemed to be of the "need some attention please, doc" variety. Body language expert that I am.

[JasonF]

Hope we get some good news on Harvey. Just watching the replay this afternoon, I noticed that he gave a little wave as he came off at h/t which seemed to be of the "need some attention please, doc" variety. Body language expert that I am.

Klopp said in the post match conference that they took him off as a precaution, that with any other scoreline he'd have probably stayed on but given the state of the game there was no need for any risks, and that he was fine after the game. Paraphrasing but that's the jist of it.

[duvva 💅]

What’s Jones injury, he’s been out a while, but can’t recall what the problem is or how long he’s supposed to be out for

[JasonF]

What’s Jones injury, he’s been out a while, but can’t recall what the problem is or how long he’s supposed to be out for

I think Klopp has only said it's a stress thing. Given he was in a protective boot I took that to mean something like a stress fracture. I don't think any specific information has been revealed but we tend to be very vague on injuries these days.

[newterp]

I think Klopp has only said it's a stress thing. Given he was in a protective boot I took that to mean something like a stress fracture. I don't think any specific information has been revealed but we tend to be very vague on injuries these days.

Thought it was a calf injury?

[JasonF]

Thought it was a calf injury?

Could be, the stress fracture thing was just speculation by me from a combination of what Klopp said + the protective boot he had on. If you have heard it's the calf you might be right. A quick google says the Athletic reported a calf injury so you're probably right.

[Dave McCoy]

Jones, Matip and Ramsey in training per official LFC twitter account.

[HardworkDedication]

Boom

[So… Howard Philips]

Jones, Matip and Ramsey in training per official LFC twitter account.

So Ramsay is still injured then?

[newterp]

Jones, Matip and Ramsey in training per official LFC twitter account.

Nice!

Probably too early to even make the bench against Newcastle for Jones and Ramsey. Matip - he had a full preseason and even played in the first two games - so he should be a bench option (barring a setback)

[classycarra]

Maybe we can say goodbye to our two goalie bench soon!

[El Lobo]

The lesser spotted Ramsay! Wow

[SamLad]

Nice!

Probably too early to even make the bench against Newcastle for Jones and Ramsey. Matip - he had a full preseason and even played in the first two games - so he should be a bench option (barring a setback)

that would be great but not holding my breath. 

at this point I don't even know what kind of problem he's recovering from.

ah .... "Groin/Hip/Pelvic Injury" apparently.  that clarifies it.  not at all.

[BOBSCOUSE]

Hope we get some good news on Harvey. Just watching the replay this afternoon, I noticed that he gave a little wave as he came off at h/t which seemed to be of the "need some attention please, doc" variety. Body language expert that I am.

I took it as a wave to Thiago - "I'm having your slot in the team, come see if you can win it back gringo".  Body language expert that I am.

[rushyman]

Matip in v the delusional blue rats ?

[paisley1977]

Jones, Matip and Ramsey in training per official LFC twitter account.

Nice to see young Ramsey smiling in training what was his injury ?

[SamLad]

Nice to see young Ramsey smiling in training what was his injury ?

Hurt his back carrying his signing bonus home to his mum.

[Tokyoite]

Every time I see this thread bumped, I get a minor heart attack 
Good to see we have players back in training though!

[Dim Glas]

‘Diogo can train from Thursday’ according to the boss in the PC today.

[newterp]

‘Diogo can train from Thursday’ according to the boss in the PC today.

So maybe (unlikely) makes the bench against the bitters?

[Gus 1855]

It is such a relief to see players coming back. It seems like:

Matip, Ramsay and Jones should be back imminently.

Jota back maybe by the weekend?

Sounds like Thaigo not far away (though with the usual caveats about those sorts of comments)

Nunez available again after Newcastle

Kelleher hopefully back.

Just Keita, Ox and Konate out for longer it appears.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Jordan Henderson had to go straight down the tunnel and sat down holding his ankle I believe, off the ball too. Went down the tunnel shaking his head. Not great

[robertobaggio37]

Jordan Henderson had to go straight down the tunnel and sat down holding his ankle I believe, off the ball too. Went down the tunnel shaking his head. Not great

 

[classycarra]

Jordan Henderson had to go straight down the tunnel and sat down holding his ankle I believe, off the ball too. Went down the tunnel shaking his head. Not great

Didn't see that. Did take a small hit while following through a high booted clearance, but didn't appear to be limping when we were wasting our own time wandering around with the armband. Hopefully not injured, and the head shake was something else

[Chakan]

Hendo with a hamstring problem according to Klopp

[DelTrotter]

Got to wonder if we are doing something wrong, this is just farcical now. We'll have the weekend injuries to come too with 3 games in 7 days and no rotation as we have loads of.....injuries. 

[JasonF]

Hendo with a hamstring problem according to Klopp

That'll be for FSG's benefit, then come Friday it'll turn out to be cramp.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Didn't see that. Did take a small hit while following through a high booted clearance, but didn't appear to be limping when we were wasting our own time wandering around with the armband. Hopefully not injured, and the head shake was something else

Maybe the messing around with the armband was because he wasn't in the best place mentally. He looked pretty dispondent as he went down the tunnel, rather upset.

[SMASHerano]

Hendo with a hamstring problem according to Klopp

If that doesn't make us sign a new player I don't know what will.

[TepidT2O]

All these hamstring injuries.

You have to ask if we’ve misjudged preseason training

[amir87]

All these hamstring injuries.

You have to ask if we’ve misjudged preseason training

If you're only asking that question now then you're a much more patient person than I.

[classycarra]

Maybe the messing around with the armband was because he wasn't in the best place mentally. He looked pretty dispondent as he went down the tunnel, rather upset.

Yeah that could make more sense of it, was very strange and unlike us.

[Dave McCoy]

All these hamstring injuries.

You have to ask if we’ve misjudged preseason training

There has to be some type of story at some point to explain the amount of hamstring injuries in 6 games already, it seems somewhat outlandish. I'm assuming with the schedule as it is there was some unique pre-season schedule put in place and it has completely backfired but I really know nothing so who knows. Seems crazy though in that even the healthy ones seemingly don't have the legs in the game to properly hit cross field balls since game week 1.

[TepidT2O]

If you're only asking that question now then you're a much more patient person than I.

I think I am yes

[TepidT2O]

Where is Kaide  Gordon??

[xbugawugax]

seems like curtis and matip is back

thiago, jota, ramsay will be soon. any timeline for konate?

 with arthur making up the numbers our midfield kind of looks decent for now till another one gets crocked

most importantly will we see keita in a liverpool shirt again. the contract talk and injuries and illness talk are just vague