Topic: The Joe Biden Presidency Thread - 46th President of the United States

[BobOnATank]

Fair enough, although I think most countries should have it pretty much under control by then.

Biden is talking about 100 million vaccine shots with a population of 331m in the USA, it is nonsense to contend that COVID will be under control by then and most countries will not have it under control in a few months either.

[Max_powers]

Filibuster+ Mitch McConnell  will only mean that Biden and Dems will get fuck all done in next 2 years. Then they will proceed to lose the house and/or senate. Then fuck all will happen for another 2 years.

It basically renders Congress useless and leaves Executive orders as the only way of exerting power.

You have to be really stupid like Manchin to think that US Congress is doing just fine with current rules in place. I hope Dems threat him with primary challenge.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Biden is talking about 100 million vaccine shots with a population of 331m in the USA, it is nonsense to contend that COVID will be under control by then and most countries will not have it under control in a few months either.

Yeah that's all he was talking baout & that includes him having to source enough vaccines as the previous twat couldn't even get that right.

[BobOnATank]

Yeah that's all he was talking baout & that includes him having to source enough vaccines as the previous twat couldn't even get that right.

Well as my 86 year old aunt recently said that trump "couldn't pour piss from a boot if the instructions were written on the sole" 

[Chakan]

Here’s to 4 years of dems doing nothing again because of republicans and then having to hear how the dems did nothing when they “controlled all 3 branches”

They never learn.

Democrats are like the awkward kid at the playground trying to fit in with the cool kids that are smoking behind the shed. But they’re just there to be ridiculed and made fun of, cause they’re fucking idiots

“Let’s all play together”

[stoopid yank]

Wow - in the press conference right now he is really trying to smack home how serious the climate crisis is. Can't remember a president, even Obama, ringing the alarm bell this loudly before.

[Commie Bobbie]

Filibuster+ Mitch McConnell  will only mean that Biden and Dems will get fuck all done in next 2 years. Then they will proceed to lose the house and/or senate. Then fuck all will happen for another 2 years.

It basically renders Congress useless and leaves Executive orders as the only way of exerting power.

You have to be really stupid like Manchin to think that US Congress is doing just fine with current rules in place. I hope Dems threat him with primary challenge.

In such a red state that would be a case of shooting oneself in the foot.

[ShakaHislop]

In such a red state that would be a case of shooting oneself in the foot.

Only to a certain extent. Manchin being replaced by a Republican senator would see Democratic legislation blocked, but Manchin's support for the filibuster will see most Democratic legislation be blocked too. A lot of the advantages of being in the majority but with the filibuster intact regard stopping Republicans from doing things you don't like, rather than actually doing things you do like, which isn't inspiring.

[Red Beret]

I agree that the time has come to deal with Manchin.  Right now he seems more like a Trojan Horse.

It was said soon after the Georgia results that McConnell was trying to get him to switch sides, but honestly why would he?  I'm sure Manchin is of far more use to Mitch where he is.

Schumer should threaten to expel Manchin from the caucus if he opposes removing the filibuster, even if it screws the senate over.  Fuck him.

[Max_powers]

In such a red state that would be a case of shooting oneself in the foot.

Doesn't have to be someone super progressive, but just someone who is willing to get stuff done. Or maybe even the threat might change his mind.

If they have another 4 years of political paralysis in Congress Dems will suffer in purple states.

See someone like Susan Collins who has been a senator in Maine for eons despite pretty much towing the republican party line almost always.

[RedG13]

I agree that the time has come to deal with Manchin.  Right now he seems more like a Trojan Horse.

It was said soon after the Georgia results that McConnell was trying to get him to switch sides, but honestly why would he?  I'm sure Manchin is of far more use to Mitch where he is.

Schumer should threaten to expel Manchin from the caucus if he opposes removing the filibuster, even if it screws the senate over.  Fuck him.

Expelling Manchin and losing a majority is dumb. Schumer knows his caucus well and how to work him. He talked Manchin out of leaving the senate in 2018 to back and be governor Irc. Manchin and Sinema will the like the last people to come around to it and it would happen on a major bill Like hr 1 or the John Lewis voting rights act. It wasnt going to happen on an organizing resolution.
You have the Liberals in the caucus who want to the filibuster gone, seems like the moderates are open too. See Bob Casey today https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/bob-casey-senate-filibuster-reconciliation-20210127.html
Then you have like the ones that look dug in.
Schumer in interview Monday night on Maddow, it seemed everybody in the caucus was not happy with what Mitch did with the organizing resolution but Manchin and Sinema made statement basically saying there positions didnt change from before the election on the filibuster because everybody wants committees to get set up.
Schumer knows how to build relationship. He went Hunting with Nebraska Dem Ben nelson in 2009. https://www.politico.com/story/2009/12/schumer-goes-hunting-bags-nelson-030909
There no Earmarks anymore but this just one thing LBJ did to get votes on the civil rights act in 1964. https://twitter.com/MaxKennerly/status/1353856695697633280

It a process it takes time, Biden still has the state of the union sometime in march not sure how it will done with Covid but I'm sure they try and do in a safe manner

[The 1989 Brit Awards]

You have to be really stupid like Manchin to think that US Congress is doing just fine with current rules in place. I hope Dems threat him with primary challenge.

He's the only 'democrat' that could get elected in West Virginia.

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

“That money will not have gone to waste in any respect.”

   

Oklahoma is now attempting to return a $2 million stockpile of hydroxychloroquine that Gov. Kevin Stitt ordered.

[Red Beret]

Expelling Manchin and losing a majority is dumb. Schumer knows his caucus well and how to work him. He talked Manchin out of leaving the senate in 2018 to back and be governor Irc. Manchin and Sinema will the like the last people to come around to it and it would happen on a major bill Like hr 1 or the John Lewis voting rights act. It wasnt going to happen on an organizing resolution.
You have the Liberals in the caucus who want to the filibuster gone, seems like the moderates are open too. See Bob Casey today https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/bob-casey-senate-filibuster-reconciliation-20210127.html
Then you have like the ones that look dug in.
Schumer in interview Monday night on Maddow, it seemed everybody in the caucus was not happy with what Mitch did with the organizing resolution but Manchin and Sinema made statement basically saying there positions didnt change from before the election on the filibuster because everybody wants committees to get set up.
Schumer knows how to build relationship. He went Hunting with Nebraska Dem Ben nelson in 2009. https://www.politico.com/story/2009/12/schumer-goes-hunting-bags-nelson-030909
There no Earmarks anymore but this just one thing LBJ did to get votes on the civil rights act in 1964. https://twitter.com/MaxKennerly/status/1353856695697633280

It a process it takes time, Biden still has the state of the union sometime in march not sure how it will done with Covid but I'm sure they try and do in a safe manner

I'm not sure what there is to discuss when it comes to axing the filibuster though?  Has Manchin been in a coma for the past half a dozen years?  Has he not seen what McConnell has done, and what he will continue to do if the filibuster is retained? 

Republicans are adept at extending their influence FAR beyond what their political reach is; the only way for the Democrats to enact lasting change is to break free of the filibuster. What the hell kind of "relationship" does Schumer need to build with the man?  If he wants money for his state then give it to him and move on.

[Welshred]

https://twitter.com/KaivanShroff/status/1354465500038885381?s=20

Legislation introduced to make Washington DC the 51st state

[MBL?]

https://twitter.com/KaivanShroff/status/1354465500038885381?s=20

Legislation introduced to make Washington DC the 51st state

Would this mean anything politically or is it just symbolic?

[Welshred]

It would mean DC would get two senators, who would likely be Democrats, giving them an outright majority in the senate. Politically it would make things a lot easier.

[MBL?]

It would mean DC would get two senators, who would likely be Democrats, giving them an outright majority in the senate. Politically it would make things a lot easier.

Why not make Puerto Rico the 52nd? I imagine they would be dems too?

[stoa]

Would this mean anything politically or is it just symbolic?

It would also make things a lot easier for DC itself. At the moment, they can't make their own laws or use their budget without approval of the Congress. Despite having a bigger population or a higher GDP than some other states. They have currently one member of Congress, but that person has no vote. Last Week Tonight did a whole segment on it a couple of years ago (hope the link works).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4j2CrJRn4&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight

[ShakaHislop]

https://twitter.com/KaivanShroff/status/1354465500038885381?s=20

Legislation introduced to make Washington DC the 51st state

What's the point of introducing the legislation with the filibuster remaining in place?

[Welshred]

Why not make Puerto Rico the 52nd? I imagine they would be dems too?

I imagine that would be the next step

[Dr.Kano]

Biden is talking about 100 million vaccine shots with a population of 331m in the USA, it is nonsense to contend that COVID will be under control by then and most countries will not have it under control in a few months either.

Who knows but at the rate that the UK, the USA and Israel are vaccinating I think significant progress will be made within the next three months and we should start getting back to normal. How can you be so certain that it's nonsense?

[Red Beret]

Who knows but at the rate that the UK, the USA and Israel are vaccinating I think significant progress will be made within the next three months and we should start getting back to normal. How can you be so certain that it's nonsense?

I dunno... because America has treated Covid with absolute lunacy?

The UK has been incompetent, but they haven't actively disputed the basic, underlying science and preventative measures.  Nor have they politicised those measures.  Biden now has to deal with a sizeable chunk of America that's only too willing to believe the whole thing is a sham.

The US will see improvements inside of several months; but we wont see things "getting back to normal" there until towards the end of the year imo.

What's the point of introducing the legislation with the filibuster remaining in place?

How does Manchin feel about DC statehood?

[afc tukrish]

An alert only from the DHS, nothing specific as far as actions taken. But still...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-threat/u-s-warns-of-heightened-domestic-terrorism-threat-after-presidential-inauguration-idUSKBN29W2BY

Simply calling it domestic terrorism is a positive step. Specifically mentions the insurrection at the Capitol and white supremacy.

Direct counter to the prevalent "good people on both sides," "antifa-is-just-as-bad/worse" "BLM are terrorists" equivocations from Trumpers and many Republicans.

Identification in a formal manner of the problem is the first step.

[RedG13]

I'm not sure what there is to discuss when it comes to axing the filibuster though?  Has Manchin been in a coma for the past half a dozen years?  Has he not seen what McConnell has done, and what he will continue to do if the filibuster is retained? 

Republicans are adept at extending their influence FAR beyond what their political reach is; the only way for the Democrats to enact lasting change is to break free of the filibuster. What the hell kind of "relationship" does Schumer need to build with the man?  If he wants money for his state then give it to him and move on.

Manchin been there he seen his bill with senator toomey died because it didnt have 60 votes. It just not going to happen today or tomorrow. It going to come up when there a big democratic bills that getting blocked, over and over and over again, then you have Coons, Tester, Bennett all flip there position and get Biden on board. Manchin there on the big things, he does the popular stuff. Im just saying Schumer knows how build relationships with his members, he probably already built one with Manchin already. It will probably be paired with some thing like John Lewis Voting rights act when it gets to that point. It just a process that take time.
Of Course Dems wont get stuff dont with it. The biggest issue with ACA and stuff Obama was Joe Liberman messing stuff up more then the red seat dems.
This is a good article on what manchin has done lately https://newrepublic.com/article/161013/dont-worry-joe-manchin. I don't think Warner would mess stuff up too much and he using it as a potential example

[BobOnATank]

Who knows but at the rate that the UK, the USA and Israel are vaccinating I think significant progress will be made within the next three months and we should start getting back to normal. How can you be so certain that it's nonsense?

Math, because you need effectively 70-80% of vaccinations to have generated antibodies to achieve herd immunity currently two doses per person. 100m doses is only a third of the US population and a sixth with two doses.

[Red Beret]

Manchin been there he seen his bill with senator toomey died because it didnt have 60 votes. It just not going to happen today or tomorrow. It going to come up when there a big democratic bills that getting blocked, over and over and over again, then you have Coons, Tester, Bennett all flip there position and get Biden on board. Manchin there on the big things, he does the popular stuff. Im just saying Schumer knows how build relationships with his members, he probably already built one with Manchin already. It will probably be paired with some thing like John Lewis Voting rights act when it gets to that point. It just a process that take time.
Of Course Dems wont get stuff dont with it. The biggest issue with ACA and stuff Obama was Joe Liberman messing stuff up more then the red seat dems.
This is a good article on what manchin has done lately https://newrepublic.com/article/161013/dont-worry-joe-manchin. I don't think Warner would mess stuff up too much and he using it as a potential example

Not sure what you're saying here?  do you thin Manchin will flip and that he's just posturing?

[RedG13]

Not sure what you're saying here?  do you thin Manchin will flip and that he's just posturing?

My guess is after getting repeatedly be obstructed after most of the caucuses and the president want it gone. Doing it on a bill that is popular that Manchin and Sinema would do it on lets say the John Lewis Voting rights Act or HR1(which is democracy reform).
Right now Schumer probably has like 20-30 Yes to get rid of it, everybody else but like Manchin and Sinema are in position of Biden where it should be considered but lets see if we can work with GOP.

[ShakaHislop]

Senate Democrats have caucus call with Biden White House officials Deese and Zients tomorrow, per two sources familiar.

Biden White House pushing stimulus plan and Senate Dems split on whether to use budget reconciliation to evade filibuster or try and cut deal with GOP

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1354591601411153927

 

[rafathegaffa83]

I believe the correct term for this is voter suppression

Georgia voters would be required to make copies of their photo ID and mail them to election officials twice before being allowed to cast an absentee ballot, according to a bill introduced Wednesday.

The legislation, Senate Bill 29, would create a photo ID requirement for voting outside of polling places in Georgia. Voters would need to submit ID both when applying for absentee ballots and when returning them.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/bill-seeks-two-copies-of-photo-id-to-vote-absentee-in-georgia/2IC372BV2NC3VFNAYIWA4OPQKQ/

[Libertine]

 

[afc tukrish]

I believe the correct term for this is voter suppression

Voted by absentee ballot in Ga presidential and congressional elections in 2020, voter suppression, indeed.

[stevensr123]

How lovely of pelosi to buy $1,000,000 on new Tesla shares, just before the Biden administration announced their plans to replace the entire government fleet (of almost 650,000 vechicles) with electric cars that are made in America.

[Red Beret]

How lovely of pelosi to buy $1,000,000 on new Tesla shares, just before the Biden administration announced their plans to replace the entire government fleet (of almost 650,000 vechicles) with electric cars that are made in America.

That's fantastic news! It's great to see American leaders settling an example finally and encouraging their colleagues to invest in the clean energy industry. Too many are in cahoots with oil and coal lobbyists. 

Biden is committed to tackling climate change so this is a promising development imo.

[Jiminy Cricket]

That's fantastic news! It's great to see American leaders settling an example finally and encouraging their colleagues to invest in the clean energy industry. Too many are in cahoots with oil and coal lobbyists. 

Biden is committed to tackling climate change so this is a promising development imo.

[KillieRed]

How lovely of pelosi to buy $1,000,000 on new Tesla shares, just before the Biden administration announced their plans to replace the entire government fleet (of almost 650,000 vechicles) with electric cars that are made in America.

It’s almost as if all politicians are self-serving narcissists. But, thankfully not all of them are career criminals with authoritarian tendencies & the IQs of fusty walnuts.

[Garrus]

It would be a stretch to call it insider trading. She purchased the stocks in December. Every man and his dog knew a Biden admin would be a good thing for the green industry. There should definitely be ethical concerns with a politician holding stocks in any corporation when in office but we've just seen an administration that literally runs a globe spanning organisation and nothing was done to divest him of his interests.

[Lone Star Red]

That's fantastic news! It's great to see American leaders settling an example finally and encouraging their colleagues to invest in the clean energy industry. Too many are in cahoots with oil and coal lobbyists. 

Biden is committed to tackling climate change so this is a promising development imo.

[Red Beret]

Colbert is all about Boden.

<a href="https://youtube.com/v/899MOQKs1uE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://youtube.com/v/899MOQKs1uE</a>

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

$1400 checks for all including adult dependents.