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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15160 on: September 18, 2020, 07:27:24 pm »
Er, why are we selling Hoever?
No idea, one of my favourites.
If we lose Brewster and Hoever I will be sad.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15161 on: September 18, 2020, 07:27:58 pm »
I am excited by Jota. Seemed like he and dovetailed nicely but then at times they played more of a front three too so it feels like he is a really good option for us. Always looked lively against us, got that Portuguese blend of skill, work rate and a bit of narkiness. All for it.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15162 on: September 18, 2020, 07:28:14 pm »
Friend is a wolves supporter and he says on his day Jota is class and almost unplayable, but for every good game he has, he has 4 bad ones. His consistency seems to be a big issue. Hopefully that’s something that Klopp will improve and he’ll flourish under Klopp.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15163 on: September 18, 2020, 07:28:27 pm »
Am I doing my maths right ?

Thiago + Jota = more or less 1 Werner

*edit. Forgot minus a hoever

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15164 on: September 18, 2020, 07:29:15 pm »
No idea, one of my favourites.
If we lose Brewster and Hoever I will be sad.
If Brewster, Shaqiri, Origi, Wilson, Grujic all go wouldn't be surprised to potentially see another come in. If not now then in Jan.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15165 on: September 18, 2020, 07:29:29 pm »
I was championing him as early as July:

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=345734.msg17284509#msg17284509

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15167 on: September 18, 2020, 07:30:05 pm »
Am I doing my maths right ?

Thiago + Jota = more or less 1 Werner



A bit more. But he's probably on more wages than the two of them combined as well so...
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15168 on: September 18, 2020, 07:30:37 pm »
Think we'll see Brewster + one of Origi and Shaq leave as well, depending on who'll get more parties interested.

Minamino and Jota and Origi/Shaq as cover for the front 3 is a pretty good situation to be in. Of course there's a drop-off in quality but that's expected.

We sell Lovren, Hoever, Brewster, Ejaria, Origi/Shaq for a conservative 60 million or so in total and bring in Tsimikas, Thiago, Jota for 70. Very good business.

That's assuming we can't sell more youth/fringe players for 10 million just to even it out :D
We have lots of players available for sale to help us recoup the money we've spent so far

Lovren, Brewster, Origi, Shaqiri, Wilson, Grujic, Houever, Karius, Nat Phillips, Herbie Kane and Larouci

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15169 on: September 18, 2020, 07:31:18 pm »
Isn't he a bit like Minamino in that he can provide cover across all 3 positions if necessary?

Yes probably but I don’t see either being pacy enough to cover Salah/Mane.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15170 on: September 18, 2020, 07:32:07 pm »
Wow been away abit and we've sold Hoever for 10 mil, and about to sign Jota for 35 mil. If this swap deal goes ahead would be a good deal.

With Hoever, he's a good player, like him and was looking forward to see him develop this season. However this move does make financial sense tho, as we are stocked in RB and CB youth backups. And good to see the club buy low sell high. Would've liked to see him continue here but these things happen, especially during these times. And 10 mil profit is sweet.

With Jota, he's exciting. Much better than Sarr, good at dribbling, would be a good wide forward backup. Fairly consistent (I think), young, and non-injury prone too. I hope we get him.

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« Reply #15171 on: September 18, 2020, 07:32:14 pm »
I'm surprised that Wolves are willing to sell. Considering there was talk of them wanting about £80m for Adama Traore.

Aren't Wolves struggling with FFP?
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15172 on: September 18, 2020, 07:32:27 pm »
Am I doing my maths right ?

Thiago + Jota = more or less 1 Werner

*edit. Forgot minus a hoever
Well if the reported fee of Jota is £35M then the pair of them cost more than Werner.

I can only imagine that if we sign Jota the payment will be spread out, whereas they wanted most of the Werner fee upfront.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15173 on: September 18, 2020, 07:33:12 pm »
Hazell = Michael Edwards....

For Fowler sake, we have been drafting with royalty

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15174 on: September 18, 2020, 07:33:53 pm »
Re the chatter about the homegrown slots, we’re fine.

The 17 non-homegrown players (if Jota signs) would be:
Alisson, Adrian
VVD, Matip, Tsimikas, Robbo
Thiago, Keita, Fabinho, Gini
Jota, Minamino, Bobby, Salah, Mane, Origi, Shaq

This doesn’t include Karius or Grujic, neither of whom will be with us in October. We’ll look to sell both (and Wilson) but if we don’t get Edwards’ value they’ll end up on loan. There’s simply no space in the squad for Grujic and Wilson, who both played regular first team football in the Bundesliga and Premier league respectively last season. We’ve got the above 17 plus Gomez, Trent, Hendo, Milner, Ox, Jones, Elliot, Williams, Brewster. That’s 26 players already. Grujic and Wilson aren’t getting in the team and are not going to spend a year in our U23s. I know Fordy disagrees profusely and obviously we’d rather raise some cash, but it will be a loan or sale. We’ve said we won’t loan to protect their value but it’s just a negotiating position ultimately.

Also, the likelihood is that we’ll sell one of Origi and Shaq which frees up a space to use for a central defender if we need it. Not beyond belief that we’d sell both, though I’d be very surprised if we let both Origi AND Brewster go. I think we’ll want one more traditional goal scorer in the squad. Jota and Minamino are excellent players but if we needed someone to score goals it would be a risk not to have that more direct attacking type as an option.

Then hopefully in time, Kelleher takes Adrian’s spot. The other of Shaq / Origi will likely leave, then we have free spots again.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15176 on: September 18, 2020, 07:34:47 pm »
Yes probably but I don’t see either being pacy enough to cover Salah/Mane.

That's only one metric - he's better at combination play than Sadio - and always makes the run into the box to a fault.

No one is going to be Sadio exactly, and I expect they ran the analytics versus I Sarr and said let's do this.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15177 on: September 18, 2020, 07:37:04 pm »
I really don't understand why so many of the posters are willing to sell Origi. He has accepted his role as a squad player, and has always performed for us when needed.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15178 on: September 18, 2020, 07:37:13 pm »
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And yet I haven't won a draft in ages. Obviously RAWKites have no clue about football.

I think both facts are revealing --- and Viva and I concur profusely.   I mean if Hazell has not won one yet, then we sure as hell are not going to...
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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15179 on: September 18, 2020, 07:37:33 pm »
Linked with Lewis and bought Tsimikas. Linked with Sarr and buying Jota.

No one get excited about the next player we're linked with. It's a trap.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15180 on: September 18, 2020, 07:38:17 pm »
Where are those posters who were complaining that FSG weren’t selling. I also saw a laughable article recently that said that FSG were 13th “best” owners in the league because they hadn’t sent a lot.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15181 on: September 18, 2020, 07:38:34 pm »
Fabinho in our B team ?  I don't think so.
Him, Hendo and Thiago together is a mouthwatering prospect.
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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15182 on: September 18, 2020, 07:40:49 pm »
Jota is very much in the mould of a Klopp player. If he's inconsistent, as many have said, then that can be trained, coached and beaten into him.

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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15183 on: September 18, 2020, 07:40:54 pm »
I really don't understand why so many of the posters are willing to sell Origi. He has accepted his role as a squad player, and has always performed for us when needed.

I agreeZ entirely. I’d rather have him than Sarr.

Origi, Jota and Minamino are players who all offer very different things and as a trio would be a superb backup to our front three. If Origi leaves we should certainly keep (or loan) Brewster.

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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15184 on: September 18, 2020, 07:41:21 pm »
Kabak’s back on the menu boys (according to Manuel Veth).

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15185 on: September 18, 2020, 07:41:33 pm »
I really don't understand why so many of the posters are willing to sell Origi. He has accepted his role as a squad player, and has always performed for us when needed.

 i think its different with Divock.  He may want a new adventure that includes more game time.   If that is not the case, then it would be absurd to sell to him for a fee --- he is an important member of the squad.

But if there is one thing that strikes me is that Kloppo will take their contribution and desire to play into consideration (i.e. Kagawa case at Dortmund).

So, my guess is that we are not so much willing to sell, but reconciled to the fact if he wants another environment, we understand why after everything he has done for us.
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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15186 on: September 18, 2020, 07:41:43 pm »
We're going to win the transfer window, aren't we?
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« Reply #15187 on: September 18, 2020, 07:42:09 pm »
Linked with Lewis and bought Tsimikas. Linked with Sarr and buying Jota.

No one get excited about the next player we're linked with. It's a trap.
I had to smirk at Dominic King tweeting we have made our move for Jota who was an alternative to Sarr.

Oh Dom you shouldn't be so naive.

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« Reply #15188 on: September 18, 2020, 07:43:07 pm »
One thing we've shown recently and particularly this window

If we want a certain player, we are prepared to wait (VVD, Thiago)

If a club wants to engage in public bidding wars (Norwich with Lewis; Watford with Sarr) or a player isn't interested (Götze, Brandt) we are more than willing to move on to another on the list because we have a set playing and recruitment philosophy. 

In fact one of the best things this window is our willingness to quietly move on.

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« Reply #15189 on: September 18, 2020, 07:43:07 pm »
Hazell, I care not a Jota for your supreme talent.

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« Reply #15190 on: September 18, 2020, 07:43:13 pm »
We're going to win the transfer window, aren't we?
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« Reply #15191 on: September 18, 2020, 07:43:28 pm »
Edwards is just taking the piss now, isn't he?

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« Reply #15192 on: September 18, 2020, 07:44:17 pm »
Wolves are after Semedo supposedly for 30-40m with Jota being sold.

May have a knock on affect for us Barca may come in for Gini

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« Reply #15193 on: September 18, 2020, 07:45:50 pm »
We're going to win the transfer window, aren't we?

Let's not lose our cool here.   

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Will not be happy if Partey and Aouar go to Arse-hole
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There is a lot of window left.  Rear window.
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« Reply #15194 on: September 18, 2020, 07:46:29 pm »
Edwards is just taking the piss now, isn't he?

We are all his playthings.

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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15195 on: September 18, 2020, 07:47:01 pm »
Wolves are after Semedo supposedly for 30-40m with Jota being sold.

May have a knock on affect for us Barca may come in for Gini

Might not.

If the club and Gini have had discussions that have ended fruitfully for him to stay, it doesn't matter what Barca want.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #15196 on: September 18, 2020, 07:47:29 pm »
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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15197 on: September 18, 2020, 07:47:32 pm »
I really don't understand why so many of the posters are willing to sell Origi. He has accepted his role as a squad player, and has always performed for us when needed.

Origi is a decent player but I've never felt that he's a good fit, we look to create with good passing and movement but he's more of a shoot on sight type of player and doesn't really interplay at all with the rest of the team when he starts. He's been with us long enough for it to be clear he'll never be that player, but at the same time he's good enough at what he does for us to get a decent fee for him.

I think Wilson, Grujic and maybe Shaqiri are the players we'd prefer to move on first but if clubs show interest in Origi I don't think it would be a bad thing for all parties if he moved on.

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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15198 on: September 18, 2020, 07:47:39 pm »
Wolves are after Semedo supposedly for 30-40m with Jota being sold.

May have a knock on affect for us Barca may come in for Gini

Seems crazy money for him. Part of the problem for Barca is they've barely got anyone clubs are willing to pay any real money for because most of them are over 30 on crazy wages or been loaned out last year like Coutinho or injured like Dembele. They've been trying to give away half their players just to get them off their wage bill.
Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to tide us over this season

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Re: LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - YOU JOTA BE KIDDING, WE SIGNED THIAGO!
« Reply #15199 on: September 18, 2020, 07:47:56 pm »
We're going to win the transfer window, aren't we?

No chance, we are mere transfer minnows. The Ev are transfer window royalty.